"Ernest Goes to Camp" (1987) with Nicholas Pepin, Chad Sheppard & Laramy Wells

Tim Williams: In this eighties flick, a legendary television pitch man decided it was time to conquer the silver screen. Jim Varney took his beloved rubber faced creation out of the local commercials and threw him right into the deep end of summer camp lore. The mission at Camp Kikaki was supposed to be simple. Look after a group of juvenile delinquents, build in traditional Native American teepee, and avoid being crushed by the counselor in charge. But beneath the slapstick comedy and the legendary eggs erroneous. was a surprisingly heartfelt story about underdogs fighting to save their land from a ruthless mining corporation. So put on your denim vest, your tan hat, and prepare the turtle paratroopers as Nicholas Pepin, Chad Shepherd, Laramie Wells, and I discuss Ernest Goes to Camp from nineteen eighty seven on this episode of the 80s Flick Flashback Podcast. ⁓ Welcome to the show, everybody. I'm your host, Tim Williams. An expedition into the wilderness of 80s comedy requires a full squad of counselors who know exactly how to handle the chaos. Joining me in the mess hall today are three regular fixtures of the Flashback family. First up, a man who is brave enough to sit through a plate of Exerroneous without blinking. He's the host of Pop Culture Roulette. It's Nicholas Pepin. How you doing, Nicholas?

Nicholas Pepin: Look, there's a rabbit.

Tim Williams: Right, right. ⁓ next, a counselor who always brings a fantastical perspective to our deep dives and is currently trying to figure out how to weave a proper Cherokee peace pipe. It's Chad Shepherd. How you doing, Chad?

ASHLEY: Good one. I'm good as your co host here. I will be taking you deep into the forest in search of actual nature. We'll be travelling fast, moving light, keeping our ears to the grindstone. So stay together, be mindful of the weather, and for heaven's sakes, don't pick it, or it will never heal.

Tim Williams: Beautiful. Beautiful. And rounding out the crew, a guy who is always ready to stand up to the ruthless executives of the Crater Mining Corporation to save another eighties cult classic from moving panels. It's Laramie Wells. How you doing, Laramie?

Laramy: I did it. I took the Limberg baby.

Tim Williams: we're jumping right in. Yeah, we're jumping right in. Ernest goes to camp. Boy, this is one that I really enjoyed rewatching and was very hard to find. ⁓ and we'll talk about why here in a little bit, but ⁓ glad to have you guys. I know I knew Laramie had the DVD. I just didn't have time to get to his house to get it. ⁓ so ⁓ but yeah.

ASHLEY: I'm Joseph Megala. Mm.

Tim Williams: But yeah, let's ⁓ let's jump right in. So we'll go around the table. We'll start with Nicholas. Nicholas, when did you see Ernest goes to camp for the first time?

Nicholas Pepin: 1987 when we when I was over to friends house and we rented it for a sleepover

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha ⁓ nice.

Nicholas Pepin: Yeah, it was the beginning of a long love affair of earnest movies.

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha ha. What about you, Chad?

ASHLEY: I believe that if this wouldn't hadn't been the first one, I would have seen it in the theater. 'Cause I saw Christmas, the second one in in the theater. So ⁓ this was a this was a borrow from a friend who had HBO and watched it on VHS. So yeah, nineteen eighty eighty seven, yeah.

Tim Williams: All right. Laramie?

Laramy: I actually think I talked about this when we did the Christmas one. I didn't see this one first. but yeah, I rented it ⁓ a few years after. I know I saw Christmas, ⁓ Saves Christmas. I may have even seen Ernest Goes to Jail before I saw goes to camp. But I couldn't tell you exactly what year, but I know I did not see it first as it should be.

Tim Williams: Yeah. 'Cause yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I saw this one first. I but I don't I don't think I saw it in the theater. I think I saw this one on VHS. I vividly remember the VHS copy. I think I owned a VHS copy of it at some point. but it's also one that I think I watched, but it didn't stick with me like some other movies have. Like I there are definitely scenes that I definitely remembered, but it's not one I think I watched as much as other movies. But but yeah. ⁓ but how long has it been since you watched it before you're watching it for the podcast? We'll go the other way around this time, Larry.

Laramy: I could not tell you, to be honest. I know I know you always ask this question. I it's been a long time. ⁓ I I could not tell you exactly how long, but it it's been a good long time.

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What about you, Chad?

ASHLEY: ⁓ same. It's been a long time. I wanted to watch it after we we you know, I watched ⁓ I pretty i I I don't can't remember if I was on your show or Jerry's when talking about Ernest A's Christmas, but it was yours? Okay. ⁓ but yeah, ⁓ I've been wanting to see it and I didn't you know, and we'll talk about I mysteriously had it and I didn't know I had it until I went to my dad's house today. So yeah, so it's been a while.

Tim Williams: Erna Saves Christmas? think it was this one. I think it was mine. Yeah. Pretty sure. Ha ha. ⁓ cool. Nicholas.

Nicholas Pepin: ⁓ same. is, I've rewatched, like, Scared Stupid a couple times, ⁓ in Save Christmas and Goes to Jail. I watched a bunch, but this one, for whatever reason, just didn't get the rewatch. I, I have the three pack that has, ⁓ Goes to Camp, Scared Stupid, and Goes to Jail, all in the same, in the same box set.

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha. Okay.

Laramy: Nice.

Tim Williams: Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, it's like I said, it's been on like we said already, it's been a while. I think it was on Hulu or Disney Plus for a brief moment a couple of years ago. And I think I might have I might have watched it then because when I started, I was like, I feel like I've seen this beginning like pretty recently. So ⁓ but yeah, so it's it's definitely been a while for me. I've pulled a few artifacts of information directly from the 1987 pre-production file. So now, guys, your job is to tell me are they true or are they false? Counselor, stand at attention. Let's see who earns their trivia badge. It's time to play risky quizness. All right, so you guys know how this works. I'll ask you a true or false question. You can work as a team to decide if the statement is true or false. There are five statements, see if you can ⁓ win the series as we would in baseball. Number one, here we go. True or false. ⁓ This movie was conceived specifically for the Ernest character after he proved be more popular than Mickey Mouse during a Disney themed parade. True or false?

Nicholas Pepin: think that's true, actually.

Laramy: I feel that's true.

ASHLEY: It's true. Yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah. You guys know your Ernest P. World history. Disney first discovered Ernest P. World character at the nineteen eighty-five Indianapolis 500, where Jim Varney as Ernest was one of a handful of celebrity guests in the 500 festival parade. The event that year was Disney themed with Mickey Mouse serving as Grand Marshal. At the beginning of the parade, Mickey received predictable applause as he rode past in his convertible and waved to the onlookers. But a few minutes later, Ernest followed behind. Riding atop a pace car and the crowd of 500,000 went berserk. They even all screamed, Hey Vern, as he passed. Disney heads Michael Eisner and Jeffrey Katzenberg, who had never even heard of the Ernest character, were both in the audience and were stunned at the bigger response that Ernest was getting over the mouse. Eisner decided to capitalize and they tracked down John R. Cherry the Third, the director, and Jim Varney had lunch and worked out a deal to make Ernest into a movie franchise. So

Laramy: Mm-hmm.

Tim Williams: More popular than Mickey Mouse. Who would have thought? So All right. Number two. The filmmakers originally wanted Ernest and Nurse St. Cloud to become a couple at the end of the movie, but Disney wouldn't allow it. True or false? Quick on that one. Yeah, Disney opted to focus strictly on the comedy slapstick and the camp's overarching moral storyline rather than a romantic subplot, which I'm not mad about. I think it I I I think it was

Laramy: Yeah, true. True.

Nicholas Pepin: True.

ASHLEY: No.

Laramy: No. No, it was handled very well. Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: I think it was I think it was the right one of the rare choices where the studio actually got it, right?

Tim Williams: Right, right. All right, two for two. Here we go. Number three. True or false. To save on production costs, the script was originally written to take place at a fictional camp in Ohio, but the pre-production team pivoted pivotively on a production team moved the entire shoot to an active real life summer camp in Montgomery, Alabama. True or false?

Laramy: ⁓ the camp was in Tennessee, I know, so that has to be false.

ASHLEY: Mm. I was gonna say you probably went to Alabama, yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: I'm gonna lean on Laramie on this one.

Tim Williams: Okay. Trust your teammate. Larry's right. It was false. The film was shot entirely on location in Montgomery County, Tennessee Tennessee, near Nashville. The production took can't took over a real camp facility, Camp Duncan, which allowed the crew to capture on authentic authentic, rustic southern summer vibe. So

Laramy: That that camp has an annual celebration of this movie. Yeah.

Tim Williams: They do, yeah. Yep, yeah. Yep. So all right. Doing good. Three for three. Number four, true or false. The actors hired to play the rebellious second chance kids in Cabin 12 were actually recruited from local Tennessee juvenile detention centers to give the film a gritty, authentic edge.

ASHLEY: No wow.

Nicholas Pepin: That's gotta be false.

Laramy: Hm, I'm gonna say faults because some of them were actual actors.

ASHLEY: As faults, yeah. The actors, yeah.

Tim Williams: Yep, yep, exactly. The casting directors wanted kids who could deliver the comedic timing necessary to bounce off Jim Carrey's intense physical physical improvisation. So all right.

Nicholas Pepin: And those kids didn't scream like juvenile delinquents to me.

Tim Williams: No. No, not at all. Yeah. Nan nothing says eighties delinquent like wearing a t shirt, a vest, and a necktie. Yeah, so

ASHLEY: No.

Laramy: Nah.

Nicholas Pepin: Or like a half tank top. Yeah.

Laramy: The crop top, the kid that's always in a crop top, yeah.

Tim Williams: The crop top. Yeah, of course. Of course. So. All right, let's see if they can sweep number five, true or false. The film's original pre-production working title was simply The Adventures of Ernest, but the writer changed it to Ernest Goes to Camp after realizing the sumper summer camp setting provided the perfect backdrop for classic slapstick tropes. True or false.

ASHLEY: ⁓ gosh.

Laramy: Mm.

ASHLEY: That's hard.

Nicholas Pepin: That sounds like it could be true.

Laramy: And that's why I want to say false. Like

Nicholas Pepin: You

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha

ASHLEY: I mean it was it was the first one, so that ⁓ it might it might be the Adventures of Ernest or whatever it is. Huh.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm.

Laramy: Yes, it was the first one. I don't know. I I'm gonna lean with faults, to be honest. I don't think I've ever heard it, so but I'm bad at this game, so

Tim Williams: Need a consensus.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha. ⁓

Nicholas Pepin: I just... I feel like Tim could be trying to trick me and want me to say true because it sounds so good, but...

Tim Williams: You always think I'm trying to trick you. Which was what makes this game so fun.

Nicholas Pepin: That is true. Alright, let's ⁓ I'll ⁓ I'll defer to Laramie. Let's say it's false.

Tim Williams: Chad going with a consensus. I mean, you're outvoted anyway. I just want to know if Okay. You should have listened to Chad. It is true. Writer director John Cherry initially envisioned a broader anthology style film showcasing various Ernest sketches. He eventually realized that anchoring the character to a structured classic cinematic setting like a summer camp gave the narrative the heart and focus it needed to succeed as a movie. So yeah. But hey.

ASHLEY: G I'm gonna say it's true. That's

Laramy: No

Tim Williams: You got four out of five. It's still a good, still a good run. So, but ⁓ let us know how you did. If you played along, you can send us an email, reach out to us on social media, or leave us a comment right here on YouTube. So all right, well, let's jump into casting. Of course, we lies as Laramie and ⁓ Chad and I think Nicholas, were you on the Ernest Saves Christmas episode too? I should have gone back and looked at okay. So, but we all of course we talked about Jim Varney and how he came to be ⁓ Ernest P. World at that episode. So if you want to go back and listen to it.

Nicholas Pepin: I was not.

Tim Williams: But of course, Jim Varney playing Ernest P. Worrell. Of course, he was also the voice of Slinky Dog in the Toy Story franchise until his passing in nineteen ninety nine. ⁓ I mean sorry, in two thousand, he was also in the Beverly Hillbillies movie playing Jed Camp Jed Clampett. So ⁓ yeah, what a great, great actor.

ASHLEY: Wasn't he Shakespearean trained as well? Yeah.

Tim Williams: He was. Yeah. And actually he did he are initially did not want to make the movie because he didn't want to get typecast. But after after going on a week long bender, he decided he decided to do it and later ⁓ said that he was thankful that he took the role because it brought so many people joy. So

Laramy: Yes. Yes.

ASHLEY: Mm.

Tim Williams: Next up, we've got Victoria Racimo as Nurse St. Cloud. ⁓ she was an American film and television actress. She is perhaps best known for starring in John Frankenheimer's horror sci-fi picture prophecy in nineteen seventy-nine and Mike Nichols The Day of the Dolphin in nineteen seventy-three. This is the only movie I know her from, and that's okay.

ASHLEY: Yeah. Same.

Laramy: Prophecy was the one with Christopher Walken playing ⁓ playing Gabriel. No, that's not? ⁓

Tim Williams: No, that was a no no no, that was that was an that that was in the eighties. Prophecy as a was a different one in nine in seventy nine. So same same movie, yeah, same movie title, but yeah. Same title, different movie, yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: Different different profit different prophecy

Laramy: ⁓ okay.

ASHLEY: That's what I was thinking too.

Laramy: Same title, different movie. Okay.

Nicholas Pepin: which will be an episode of PCR one of these days.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah. Same same movie, different I mean same title, different movie. Yeah, I've seen I've seen some of those ⁓ like ⁓ social media posts. So all right, then we got John Vernon as Sherman Crater. He made a career in tele in Holly I'm sorry, he made a career in Hollywood films after achieving initial yeah, television startup in Canada. He was known for his roles as villainous authority figures, best known for

Laramy: Nice.

Nicholas Pepin: Yes.

Laramy: As a bad guy.

Tim Williams: The mayor and Dirty Harry in nineteen seventy one, Fletcher and Outlaw Josie Wales in seventy-six, and of course Dean Wormer in Animal House in nineteen seventy-eight. He was also Mr. Big in ⁓ I'm Gonna Get You Sucker. Which is what I remembered him from. I think more than the other ones. So but yeah. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ yeah, yeah. So

Laramy: ⁓ No, Animal House for me, that's what yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: Animal House.

ASHLEY: Yeah. But but I I think this was his meanest role. Like he was like I did not like I didn't like like I like him as a actor, but I did not like the character. He did. ⁓ my gosh. ⁓ At the end of the movie I'm like, are they coming to arrest him for attempted murder? Spoiler alert.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah. I mean

Laramy: Me you mean the fact that he wanted to commit murder? Yeah.

Tim Williams: Right, right. He was gonna shoot Ernest at point blank range. Spoiler alert.

Laramy: Mm-hmm.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. All right. And then ⁓ sorry. And then the reason you cannot find this movie on ⁓ streaming anywhere, Iron Eyes Cody as the old Indian chief. I don't know if you knew this or not, but this is what I found out. ⁓ Cody's film roles included the role of Chief Iron Eyes and Bob Hope's the Pale Face in 1948. He also played a Native American shedding a tear about pollution in one of the most well known television public service announcements in the US. Of course, that's what I remember I remembered him from. He was the crying Indian, yeah.

ASHLEY: Sorry. Really? Okay.

Laramy: Yeah. I knew, I knew, yeah.

Tim Williams: ⁓ living in Hollywood, Cody began to insist, even in his private life, that he was Native American over time. He claimed membership in several different tribes, although a 1996 newspaper report revealed that Cody was actually Italian American and that he purport purported Native American identity as was self-created, even though Cody denied the report even to the time of his death. So, yes, Disney has shelved this and will not release it because he is in this movie.

Laramy: ⁓

Tim Williams: And because he turned out to be a fraud as being thinking he was a true Native American, but he was not.

ASHLEY: Wow.

Laramy: Yeah.

Tim Williams: Which is the dumbest reason to keep this movie from being made available anywhere. I did look it up. A Blu-ray copy of this movie is selling on eBay for a hundred and thirty dollars. Yeah. It's like I want it, but not that bad. Yeah, yeah. I think that ⁓ yeah. I think the I think the D V D copy is like thirty. It's like between thirty and forty bucks, but yeah.

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Laramy: No, thank you. I've I got it on D V D, I'm good.

Nicholas Pepin: I'm glad I bought my DVD copy a long time ago.

ASHLEY: If it's

Tim Williams: The blu ray is very hard to find.

ASHLEY: If it's anything like if it's anything like my Blu-ray, the movie is it. Like there's no closed captioning, there's no nothing. It just just the movie. That's the one I have. ⁓

Laramy: N no, it's the it Yeah, it's the same on the DVD. It's the the DVD that I have, it's just scene selection play movie. Like that's it.

Tim Williams: ⁓ really? Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah, okay.

Tim Williams: Not much there. So all right. Well, moving on to something more fun. Lyle Alzado, I think I'm saying right, as Bronck Stinson, Crater's foreman. Of course, he was the former NFL defensive lineman who played with the Cleveland Browns, Oakland Raiders, and Denver Broncos from 1971 to 1991 when not on the football field. His macho image helped him land roles in movies, TV shows, and commercials. His movie roles primarily consisted of him playing tough guys and forcers or similar hard cases. In movies like The Destroyer in nineteen eighty-eight, Shock Troop in eighty-eight, and Comrades in Arms in nineteen ninety-one. Three movies I've never heard of and never seen, but probably on an episode of Pop Culture Let.

Nicholas Pepin: ⁓ probably, but who knows.

Tim Williams: ⁓ one fun fact is he actually broke Jim Varney's nose by mistake during the fight sequence. Jim Varney said you the crack you hear in the movie wasn't added later. So all right. And then ⁓ who we talk go ahead.

ASHLEY: I always thought that that guy I'm sorry. I well when well if you remember ⁓ I know he's not the same guy, obviously now, but when Say about the bell went to college, the guy who played Mike, I thought it was the same guy for for a while, but then I'm like, ⁓ that's not the same guy. And I think he was on Yeah. And I think he was he might have been on eight team and like had a big fight with Mr. T. Like I remember

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Yeah.

Laramy: ⁓ yeah.

Tim Williams: No. Another former football player, but yeah.

Laramy: Yeah. Yeah.

Tim Williams: Very possible. Yeah. He had a ton of like TV appearances. Yeah. Which is probably why I remembered him more from T V than movies, but yeah.

ASHLEY: 'Cause I think he was on a lot of eighties T V shows too. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Tim Williams: And then we talked about him in our Ernest Saves Christmas. Gailard Sartane, I don't know if I'm ever gonna say his name right, as Jake. He was a regular on the country music variety series Hee Haw. And he's been in three of the Ernest movies, as well as the TV series Hey Vern, it's Ernest. During Exactly, yeah, there's the only one his name is not Chuck. Yeah. ⁓ during filming, he was actually going through a difficult divorce and was drinking often at the time.

ASHLEY: That's right.

Laramy: And this is the only one where his name's not Chuck. Mm-hmm.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: you

Tim Williams: When the set would be ready to shoot his scenes, he would grab a golf cart from the set, drive off, and get lost in the camp. Crew members would always have to go out and look for him and he would be found an hour or two later. They would hide the keys and make it harder for him to find them, but he would still find ways to sneak and use them. So

ASHLEY: Just use that golf cart I kept driving around.

Tim Williams: Yeah. I wonder if that's why they had decided to add the golf cart, like the random golf cart just coming through the different scenes like surely it's run out of gas by now. And then after it blows up, it still shows up again at the end. So I just thought that was great. Makes all the sense. Continue. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We don't get that in a lot of eighties movies, but thankfully Ernest goes to camp. Got it. So

Nicholas Pepin: Ugh.

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah. I love that part.

Laramy: Yeah. But it's smoking, so continuity. Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: You

Tim Williams: And then we were talking about this gentleman before we started recording. Someone I would have not have known. I didn't know his name until now, Richard Spike Jr. as Brooks. He's known for a variety of roles, including Jericho, the agency, the HBO miniseries Band of Brothers, but most well known in the WBCW series Supernatural, playing Archang Archangel Gabriel, originally thought to be Loki, as well as Loki whose identity Gabriel took on in the show. So

ASHLEY: Yeah, I saw his chin and I was it it made me think who is I know I know that guy. And then when y'all y'all said that when we came on, I'm like, ⁓ yes, of course. ⁓

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha. All right, anybody else from the cast that you want to talk about? Or anybody you wanted to? Grutchfield.

Laramy: Yes, Crutchfield. Crutchfield. Scott Minville, the voice of Robin in Teen Titans. Yeah. So I did, and that was another one. I did not know. And then as the opening credits are running, I see Scott Minville, and I was like, wait, who does he play? Yeah, I know I know that. That's and I immediately knew that's Robin from Teen Titans. And I had to look it up. ⁓ he played Crutchfield.

ASHLEY: Gratfell, yeah. Mm.

Tim Williams: Okay. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I know that name. Mm.

ASHLEY: The the odd the odd thing about it, he does sound like a little bit like Robin in in in the movie, but he also sounds like Beast Boy too. Like his high his his voice is that high. Like I was like, Wait, is that Robin or is that Beast Boy? No, it's Robin. Yeah. No, no, I know it is it.

Laramy: No, it's Robin, yeah. But you had me questioning for a second, but I was like, No, it's Robin.

Tim Williams: Yeah.

ASHLEY: No, but he would just his his voice was pitched higher in in in this movie. Yeah. His child well yeah. Well, yes.

Laramy: Yeah. 'Cause he's 'cause he's a child, Chad. He's a

Tim Williams: Right. Instead of a man trying to sound like a child, he was an actual child. Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Mm.

Nicholas Pepin: you

Tim Williams: Anybody else from the cast you want to talk about?

Laramy: No, I think you you hit ⁓ all 'cause I didn't recognize any of the other kids.

Nicholas Pepin: Not a lot of people in this cast.

Tim Williams: No. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. A lot of lot of ⁓ empty in empty slots on Wikipedia and IMDb for a a lot of the actors on here, so

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah. You would even have thought like the lawyer was but I

ASHLEY: Zero.

Tim Williams: Yeah, yeah. And the yeah, the lawyer and even like the head the head of the camp, the camp director. Like I didn't I couldn't find anything on him either, so

Laramy: They can't the yeah yeah.

ASHLEY: I always thought that the the the the head of director was ⁓ gosh, ⁓ the James ⁓ it but ⁓ Teen Wolf's dad, ⁓ James

Laramy: ⁓ yeah, I could see that. I could see that.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah, yeah. Okay.

ASHLEY: Hamilton, James Hamilton. It's not he has that same kind of that same kind of voice. Like, you know, he's putting it on like he's a radio DJ or something. But ⁓

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well let's jump into iconic scenes. So if someone says Ernest goes to camp, what's the first scene that pops in your head? I'll start with Nicholas.

ASHLEY: It's it's not, but it and I al always thought I you know. Yeah.

Laramy: No. But I can s I can see that.

Nicholas Pepin: ⁓ this is tough, as I was rewatching it, I was like, I know I've seen this movie.

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha

Nicholas Pepin: I know I've seen it probably more than once, but there was so much of it that I was seeing for the first time. Like it was just, I mean, I think like the turtles parachuting kind of rung a bell. that was, and then the eggs erroneous, the machine they kept making did like, you know, that machine just kind of, there was some vague memory of that, but you know.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Laramy: Mm-hmm.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Nicholas Pepin: Not most of this movie I was kind of seeing for the first time.

Tim Williams: What about you, Laramie?

Laramy: ⁓ so yeah, probably first off, the the machine that's making all the the stuff. ⁓ I I very much remember that. ⁓ but honestly, if you were just ⁓ write off the first thing is actually the end when he's shooting at Ernest. Like there's just something about that that always stuck with me. ⁓ probably I I will

Tim Williams: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Probably traumatizing as a young child, like I'm don't shoot Ernest.

ASHLEY: Huh.

Laramy: I will admit I do think that as a young child when I first saw this, I think that when the the foreman beat up Ernest, it actually made me cry. Like a as a child. Yeah. Because I was a huge Ernest fan. So to see Ernest get beat up, it it I and yes.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And beat up pretty bad too. Like it wasn't like just ⁓ yeah, he he got beat up pretty good, so All right, Chad, what you got? Iconic scene.

ASHLEY: ⁓ same as them two. It's the machine. ⁓ chicken pot pie. Like literally putting a chicken ⁓ pot in a I I've that sits right here in my brain ever since I first saw it. and ⁓ the his song. ⁓ that hit me a little harder as a grown up. so glad it's raining. ⁓ that was yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah. A pot and a pie. Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah, chicken, pot, pie.

Tim Williams: Ha ha

Laramy: Yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah. Yeah. I will admit I forgot about that part.

Tim Williams: Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: ⁓ I was also a part of the like I mean no no slight on Jim Varney but I'm like I think I know why we didn't get a song in any other earnest movie after this

ASHLEY: Haw house.

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha. Well, I think he was also trying to sing it like Ernest. I think he could really sing. He was trying to like give it a little bit more of the earnest flair to it. But yeah. Yeah. He did it in one take though. He he did the song in one take.

ASHLEY: I I

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah. That's what I read too, yeah. I I I was waiting at the end. Go ahead, go ahead, I mean.

Laramy: Good for him. Good for him. I I will say I don't think I remembered the ⁓ A Team moment as well when they when they built they reconstruct the bus and that cause that was right out of the A Team. The every episode of the A Team, that's what that was.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah, yeah. ⁓ yeah, yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: Yeah it was. pulled out the random welder showed up for out of nowhere.

ASHLEY: Well that

Laramy: Yes. Well, it's one of the kids that's doing the welding. That's that was what got me as well.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

ASHLEY: Yeah. That that's what I was gonna I was gonna mention is the the montage song. Like I waited to the end to see, you know, well what song? I that was a great montage song. Who like wrote it? The same person who wrote all the music, well except the ⁓ the happy together, but the the the the reigning song, they wrote all of the music, all the songs that were on there. I was like, Wow, okay. Is it Broken Hearts or something like that or I forgot what the name but Brave Hearts, that's right, that's right.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ yeah, that was the by the turtles. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Brave Hearts. It was Brave Hearts. Yeah. Yeah. Sung by Gary Chapman, the former husband of Amy Grant. So I know very, very random trivia there for you. But yeah, that was Gary Chapman. Then probably so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause yeah, Ashley Cleveland sang one of those songs. She was another Christian artist at the time. So I thought it was kinda interesting they would two like they weren't like big name Christian artists at the time, but they did do similar to the songs in the movie. So but yeah. Which I didn't

Laramy: Brave heart. Yes. Yes.

ASHLEY: Really? Was was he a was he a Christian singer? Back then? Cr I've I've heard of his name, okay. Yeah.

Laramy: Yes. Mm-hmm.

ASHLEY: Hmm. Yeah. I thought it sounded familiar, yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah. I didn't I mean, yeah. Side note. But anyway, but yeah, I did I did recognize that I I let the the the credits play and when the songs came up, I was like, ⁓ that's why I recognize that voice. So ⁓ but yeah. ⁓ but yeah, for iconic scenes for me, I think it was the parachuting the paratrooper ⁓ turtles was definitely something I remembered. ⁓ the song too, I definitely remembered the song and ⁓

Laramy: Ha ha.

Tim Williams: Yeah, those are like those are like the two things that I would think if if you say Ernest goes to camp, those are the two scenes that I think I remember the most. And him trying to ⁓ the little bit with him trying to like rig the ⁓ his little rot rotisserie chicken and hot yeah, and he gets gets caught, his foot gets caught and he g ends up running into the the the water. I remember that scene too. So well, what about favorite scenes? You have a you have a a favorite scene you want to talk about?

Laramy: The rotisserie, yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: you

Tim Williams: I'll just let you popcorn at whoever wants to go first. Please, not everybody all at once. One at a time, please.

Laramy: No, I think also it goes back to the you know, Jake throwing the stuff into the machine. ⁓ because 'cause, you know, Chad mentioned the the chicken pot pie. I always like the it's a fettuccine and a little guy named Alfredo. Yeah. Yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

ASHLEY: Any Malfredo? Yeah. I didn't ca I didn't catch that until just just watch today, yeah. Which was funny. One one of the scenes it's I I guess it's kinda classic. I thought they sung it more than once. The Happy Together song. Like Yeah. Yeah, they sing it once and I'm like, wait a minute, what happened to the other time? Like I thought it like more Yeah.

Tim Williams: This time, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was funny.

Laramy: I did too.

Tim Williams: The tur the the happy together song, yeah.

Laramy: Yeah, I did too. No, for some reason in my head I remembered a scene of them like hiking through the woods while singing it. Like, yeah, I swear there was another moment of them singing it. So

ASHLEY: Yeah Yes. Yeah. I I agree.

Tim Williams: All right, so so the version that I watched today, there is a at the end, they're marching and singing it. Are you talking about that or talking something different? 'Cause ⁓

ASHLEY: I had a whole different scene into mine.

Laramy: No no no, I'm talking about 'cause yeah, because the one at the end, it's almost like the entire camp is doing it. I'm talking about it's just the boys, like, yeah. Just that that one group of boys just walking through the woods, ⁓ singing it. So yeah.

Tim Williams: Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ you're talking about just the just the just the kid. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha.

ASHLEY: Did y'all see the very end scene like during the credits where and I didn't I didn't notice this either in the other movie that he fed the guy and he turned into an opera singer? That was amusing, but I was like, where did

Tim Williams: Yes.

Laramy: Yes.

Tim Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Laramy: Mm.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah. Hey.

Laramy: Probably came from just letting that guy get to do that was probably like all that was to it.

Tim Williams: Yeah. ⁓ yeah, yeah. Yeah.

ASHLEY: ⁓ yeah. Exer Yeah, all he wanted to say is exeroneous.

Tim Williams: Yeah. 'Cause he was actually yeah. Yeah. Cause he was actually a replacement for the chef. Like whoever they had originally for that part.

Nicholas Pepin: you

Laramy: Yeah. Well it was the guy that that's in all the other ones with ⁓ with ⁓ Gailard. Yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Yeah. Gaylord, yeah, yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: Okay, I had a question and I made it.

ASHLEY: ⁓ is it ch ⁓ Bobby?

Laramy: Yes.

Tim Williams: Yes, yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: Was the guy who had the shotgun when ⁓ Lyle Alzado broke into the guys' that was not the same guy? Okay. Because I was like, wait, why is that guy over here? But then I was like, but, ⁓ okay.

Laramy: No.

Tim Williams: No. No. Totally different guy. No.

Laramy: No.

ASHLEY: That scene was frightening.

Laramy: No, they they, I don't know who, I don't know who it was. Probably somebody from Disney, probably Michael Eisner. ⁓ they didn't like the actor that played Bobby in the other movies because or and also in the, you know, the TV show and all, because they didn't like the way he talked.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They said they couldn't understand him. Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah. Which that's that's part of his comedy. That's part of the comedy.

ASHLEY: That's that's the point. Yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah w that was that was the that was yeah, that was that's the whole bit, right? Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah. Is he was the silent almost almost it's almost like a pen and teller bit, like

Tim Williams: Yeah, yeah, he was the silent one. Yeah. Yeah. Silent Bob.

ASHLEY: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Nicholas Pepin: and

ASHLEY: Yeah, that's that scene when ⁓ Lizondo or whatever his name is goes into the house, the guy's got the gun and his family. I I don't I didn't remember that scene and I was like, ⁓ wow. That got violent. Or or could have been. No. Well they could

Tim Williams: Mm. Yeah.

Laramy: Mm.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Laramy: Yeah. This movie could not be remade.

Nicholas Pepin: Well, I mean, it was.

Tim Williams: Yeah. I mean l I mean let's talk about the op yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry, Nicholas, go ahead.

Nicholas Pepin: I mean, this movie was just like, was like, take every camp movie from the eighties that you can think of. This movie had a version of that. mean, this was, I mean, it was super enjoyable. I really liked it and I'll probably remember to watch it again before another 40 years go by. But ⁓ man, it was so cliche when it came to like how the kids at like, you know, the second chance kids and then like,

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Ha ha. ⁓ for sure. Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: all the all the main campers just immediately treating them like garbage for no reason and like the head camera head guy just being like well they clearly started it even though like anybody with eyes can see that the other ones yeah

Tim Williams: Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it's very yeah, definitely cliche. Like I it was funny because even there were certain parts where I was like, why did why does this seem familiar? And it's like, because it's the same thing in Major Pain, which is like a 90s movie, but like very very similar, you know, but yeah. But that was one of the reasons why Disney wanted it to be a camp movie because meatballs had been a huge hit. That was like, you know, so they knew it was gonna be they were kind of taking that same

Nicholas Pepin: ⁓ yeah.

Laramy: Yeah. Meatballs.

Tim Williams: ⁓ you know, genre or that same kind of theme and said this would work. We we can we know people wanna come see this type of movie, even if we don't even if they don't know who Ernest is, they'll they'll they'll wanna see a typical, you know, trope camp movie. So

Laramy: Yeah. And I I well I do know Eisner wanted like Ernest to be a Disney character. Yeah. Like it was mainly Katzenbr ⁓ Katzenberg that ⁓ held it to nope, we're not gonna put a Disney title on it. Let's put it in touchstone.

Tim Williams: Yes, he did. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

ASHLEY: Mm.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Yeah, they made it touch tone. Yeah. Yeah. But like I was gonna say, ⁓ you know, go back to the beginning of the movie where it starts off with like the Indian ritual and they're throwing knives and shooting at him like, you know, if I watch this as like a ten year old, like that might have been a little intense for a movie to start as an earnest movie. It's like

ASHLEY: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: The copy I have is, is got goes to camp and goes to jail. And it didn't give me the choice of choosing. just pick one and ran with it. And it'd been so long. Yeah. When I put the DVD and it started and I'm like, is this how it goes to camp starts? I don't remember this being goes to jail. So let's just let this ride. And then it was like, okay, no. And then when you had, we had Ernest like throw the rope over the sign.

Tim Williams: ⁓ when you put the D V D in? Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Laramy: Mm.

Nicholas Pepin: And like, yeah, you got a safety, you said, yeah, and then he was just pushing the ropes together for no reason that I could figure out. I was like.

Tim Williams: Just

Laramy: I love in that opening bit too when he falls backwards, you actually can see him like land on whatever was up there. If if you look in the bottom right corner, you can see him land before he gets to the ground.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Mm-hmm. He yeah, he jumps away from the ladder and you see him land like away from the ladder, yeah.

Laramy: Yeah.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah.

Laramy: Not that I'm exp I also love how that one window in the bus was I guess put in upside down.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

ASHLEY: But yeah, that's what I was thinking. All the all our buses that went up.

Tim Williams: Right. For do, yeah, it's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you can clearly see that he could pull his hands out like the it's not even all the way down on his fingers, but yeah. But yeah, they they just wanted to like a lot of it was a lot of rehashing of things from those commercials that he knew that w were gonna get laughs that people would remember. So ⁓ yeah.

Laramy: All the other ones in that bus do too. That's the only one that just so they can do that same bit that Vern always did to him in the cr in the commercials.

ASHLEY: Do too, yeah. That one bit. Mm-hmm. ⁓

Laramy: ⁓ yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: First you've got to wet the stone and then you pull the knife at a perfect 45 degree angle right through the knife right through and then through your hand.

Laramy: Yeah. Perfect forty five Yeah. Through the the meat of the the f yeah, the meat of the hand.

Tim Williams: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Ha ha ha ha ha.

Tim Williams: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is that a rabbit? Yeah

Laramy: ⁓ it's like with the scene with the chef where Ernest ⁓ is ⁓ is is he's trying to get him to eat the eggs, whatever it was ⁓ And yeah, and Ernest says, ⁓ I try not to eat on an empty stomach. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah, yeah. Erroneous, yeah. Yes, yeah, I love that line. I love that line. Yeah, that was great. Yeah. Yeah, that was good.

Nicholas Pepin: Hahaha!

ASHLEY: Yeah. That was a great

Nicholas Pepin: would it i mean credit i would never eat anything that looked like that i mean i'm not a picky eater and i don't necessarily need things to look good to eat it but i would never read anything but i don't think i would ever go to a restaurant or something called eggs erroneous i don't think i'd order anything

Laramy: ⁓ no.

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha.

ASHLEY: Mm.

Tim Williams: Right, right.

Laramy: Erroneous, yeah. Which apparently apparently when you then throw it up, it flies out over your head. Yeah. Yes.

Tim Williams: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. On the other side of the vehicle, yeah. And molding clay is the secret ingredient, obviously. So we'll yeah.

ASHLEY: Mm. Yellow molding clay.

Tim Williams: Yeah, there you go. So yeah, I think all of my favorite scenes are just the physical comedy, which is what he's so great at. But I love the when his face is imprinted on the cafeteria tray, like I rem that's another I wouldn't say iconic scene, but it's definitely a scene I remembered. And when they unravel him from the gauze, like that that I mean, just classic, you know, slapstick, goofy comedy physical comedy. So I enjoyed that for sure. So

Nicholas Pepin: Yeah.

Laramy: Mm.

Nicholas Pepin: You

Laramy: Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: the kids the kids somehow give him a bushel of poison ivy without them without they themselves get poison ivy

Tim Williams: Yeah. Yeah. That they sneak ⁓ yeah, yeah. That they also sneak by, you know, Saint Cloud who walked clearly, you know, walked by them. Yeah, yeah. So but yeah. Yeah, and the scene where he gets when he's laying in the like why are they having a picnic and why does only he get the fire ants in the middle of the blanket? So but yeah.

ASHLEY: Always happy.

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Laramy: Yeah, walk right by her.

ASHLEY: Yeah. 'Cause 'cause the Indian guy's just sitting on a a stump next to the blanket. Like

Laramy: Yeah.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nicholas Pepin: gonna need another shot.

Laramy: I could take it, yeah. Is that the smallest needle you

Tim Williams: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a man. I'm a manly man. All right. Well, let's jump into some scenes of some trivia. Maybe think of some other scenes. ⁓ so ⁓ petrocyte, the mineral the mining company is looking for, is a hundred percent fake. It is total fictional, ⁓ fictional mineral. So ⁓

ASHLEY: No. Ha ha ha. ⁓

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah, so several items in Ernest's cabin, the alligator puppet, picture of his mother, also portrayed by Jim Varney, the helm, a helmet labeled Fast Ernie, were all used on the commercials. ⁓ he also, ⁓ a lot of the gags in the film, such as his EU face, the window slamming on his fingers, him falling off the ladder, the golf cart rolling off, the fire ants, the picnic, and the badger scene were either taken straight from or inspired by gags from the earlier commercials.

ASHLEY: Yeah, I thought that was him.

Laramy: Mm-hmm. Mm.

Nicholas Pepin: ⁓ shit.

Tim Williams: The other one I love is when he's trying to put the glass window on and they call his name and he f he falls back on you know, he falls back with the glass. I just love that. I knew it was coming, but yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: You know what Beth family of badgers really hate and then he proceeds to do it and then they carry him off

Tim Williams: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. First aid? I think it's time to practice our first aid.

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: First aid. ⁓ I loved it when they were like, ⁓ it's first eight again.

Tim Williams: Yeah, yeah. First aid, first aid. ⁓

ASHLEY: It'd be funny if they went back to the scene and had him wrapped up again and did it again.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓ 150 local Boy Scouts were hired as extras and turtle Wranglers. They rounded up 25 turtles from a Nashville, Tennessee pond for the film's climactic battle. There was one incident on set where a heated argument occurred between John Cherry and studio reps. Cherry wanted to parachute live turtles in the battle scene. Disney was outraged, saying some turtles will die in the making of this movie. Cherry's comeback was, if their little legs aren't moving, it ain't funny. Disney shipped them plastic turtles with legs that wobbled and wiggled, but Cherry still snuck in some live parachuting turtles in the final cut.

Laramy: Wow. It's before the days of the ⁓ humane society being an onset.

Tim Williams: Right, right. Right. No no turtles were harmed in the making of this movie.

Nicholas Pepin: But once again, I think Disney might have been right on that one. But it took 150 Boy Scouts to come up with 25 turtles.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Yeah. They got ⁓ out of one pond though, so yeah. But they were also Wranglers. They had to keep you know, you know how fast turtles can get. They had to keep ⁓ in one spot, you know, they don't stay in one spot too long.

Nicholas Pepin: All right. Yeah, that is true.

ASHLEY: I did realize it was this movie that made me think that all turtles were snapping turtles. And like I didn't I never d I never touched turtles because I thought, well, it's Arnold Save can't be he bites them in the nose. I'm not touching that.

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. gonna Yeah. It's gonna bite bite your nose. Yeah. And what was the turtle's name? Petey? Or was it it started with a P, wasn't it? I don't know. It's not important.

Laramy: I don't remember.

Nicholas Pepin: you promised you wouldn't do that again.

Tim Williams: Yeah

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Tim Williams: ⁓ all right, so as Larry mentioned earlier, since 2017, Montgomery Bell State Park, where Ernest Goes to Camp was filmed, holds an annual celebration of the film in summer called Ernest Day, which includes an outdoor screening, games, and activities such as Earnest Look-alike contest, turtle catapults, hikes, crafts, archery, face painting, and attendance from various members of the film's production. So another field trip we need to make to go see.

Laramy: This is the ⁓ second assistant to the lighting director. Please

Nicholas Pepin: All right.

Tim Williams: Yeah, right, right, right. We've invited we've invited 25 of the hundred and fifty Boy Scouts who were turtle wranglers. They'll have a panel later if you want to ask them all the turtle related questions you have. So yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about box office. Ernest Goes to Camp was released theatrically in the United States to kick off Memor Memorial Day weekend on May twenty second, nineteen eighty seven.

ASHLEY: ⁓ man.

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah. I like turtles.

Tim Williams: It grossed $6.2 million in its opening weekend, which was not enough to beat Beverly Hills Cop 2, which debuted at number one at the box office. It did remain in the top 10 through June, however, and went on to gross a total of $23.5 million. It is the third highest grossing Ernest film after Ernest saves Christmas with $28.2 million and Ernest goes to jail at $25 million. It made enough to make sequels, but the sequels made more money.

Laramy: Yeah. Well again, like I said, I saw those two in theaters. I didn't see this one.

Tim Williams: Right, right. Yeah. It's gonna be tough to beat ⁓ Beverly Hills Cop to, I think. So but good, you know, counter programming there, you know, family-friendly movie versus our comedy. So all right, it's time to take a look how well this 80s flick holds up today. It's the rewatchability nostalgia meter. It's our way of measuring how enjoyable a movie is for repeat viewings, along with the waves and nostalgia it brings. Here's how it works. It's a one to ten scale. Any number between one and ten will do. Here are a few parameters to help you decide.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Tim Williams: At the bottom of the meter is a number one means I saw it once and that was enough. In the middle is a five, means it's a good rewatch every couple of years. And the highly coveted ten at the top means it's highly rewatchable and full of nostalgia. So I will start with Chad. Chad, where does Ernest goes to camp? Rank for you on the rewatchability and nostalgia meter.

ASHLEY: I really wish I could remember what I rated Ernest Save's Christmas. But I I I probably ranked it pretty high because I I I liked that movie a lot. I like this one too. ⁓ the the three, the jail Christmas and this one are are my top favorites. I hated the scared stupid and all the videos, but ⁓ re rewatchability. This is probably it's not probably not gonna be it's probably

Tim Williams: Ha ha ha ha. Mm-hmm.

ASHLEY: Four and a half, maybe. It's close to five. I mean I'd I'd rewatch it again. I'm obviously I bought it. This was unopened at my dad's house today. I had not watched it since I bought it. So but so yeah, four four point five, I would think.

Tim Williams: Okay. Yeah. Man, could have left it sealed and sold it on eBay. You would have made a fortune. ⁓

Laramy: Yeah.

ASHLEY: Well now you tell me. Goodness gracious.

Tim Williams: All right. ⁓ Nicholas, what do you say? Where does it rank for you?

Nicholas Pepin: I mean, I think I already said it's been a long time since I've watched it. So it's hard for me to give it that high of a score. I think I'm gonna, I mean, it's enjoyable. I really enjoyed it and I own it on DVD. So there's no reason for me not to be able to watch it again on a much more regular basis. I think I'm gonna give it a, but it is up against a lot of other summer camp movies from the eighties that are better or, know.

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nicholas Pepin: But, ⁓ I think I'm still gonna give it a six.

Tim Williams: Okay. All right, Laramie. Higher or lower? Okay.

Laramy: No, I'm right in the I'm right in the middle of them because I I was I was thinking after you you gave the criteria again, I was thinking I was like, yeah, I gotta put it at a five. I mean, we all admitted that we had have not watched it in a really long time. So ⁓ yeah, like Chad said, you know, Ernest Saves Christmas, I probably watch, if not every Christmas, maybe like every other Christmas. So it it has a higher I will yeah.

Tim Williams: Uh-huh. Yeah, we have not seen it. Yeah. Yeah.

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Tim Williams: Yeah. Right, right.

ASHLEY: Mm-hmm.

Tim Williams: It's also it it's also easier to watch 'cause it's more available. So yeah.

Laramy: Yeah, I will also say I probably enjoy Ernest Goes to Jail a little bit more. That could be because Ernest becomes a superhero in that movie. ⁓ but

ASHLEY: Yeah.

Nicholas Pepin: Hahahaha!

Tim Williams: It's on brand for you. Yeah, that works.

ASHLEY: Yeah. ⁓

Laramy: Yeah. So I again I I really do like this movie and as I watched it it had a lot of the nostalgia that came with it. But I think the rewatchability and that's why I put it right there in the middle with the five. So

Tim Williams: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're all right around. I thought you guys were actually gonna go higher, but we did we'll but we also did say it's been forever since we watched it. So yeah, I'm right there with you guys. I'm at a five. It's a great, it's a good rewatch every couple of years. Like Nicholas said, there's other like summer movies that I'm probably gonna want to watch on a regular that I watch every summer. This one I'll probably put in, yeah, every couple of years. you know, if I can get my hands on a physical copy here, that's not a hundred and thirty dollars to own, but ⁓

Laramy: Mm.

Tim Williams: But yeah. But yeah. So let us know where you think Ernest Goes to Camp should rank on the rewatchability nostalgia meter for you. Send us an email. Reach out to us on social media or leave us a comment right here in the comment section if you're watching on YouTube. So all right, gentlemen, any final thoughts or anything you wanna ⁓ promote? We'll start with Laramie. What's going on over at moving panels for the month of June?

Laramy: ⁓ so we're getting into our summer series ⁓ for this year where we're focusing on the inspired by part. ⁓ you know, we we mainly focus on the adaptations and the ones that are clearly based on comics. So this summer I wanted to focus on some movies that are clearly just inspired by comics. ⁓ so we're we're hitting a few there. I I won't name what they are. Let that be a surprise. ⁓ but you know, some that are clearly based on comics, some that are

Tim Williams: ⁓ yeah. Ha ha ha.

Laramy: loosely based off of comics and one that actually itself inspired some future comics. So that's ⁓ that's what we we've got going over on moving panels.

Tim Williams: Nice. Nicholas, what do you think you might be talking about in June? Pop Cold Roulette, 'cause it's usually I don't know, whatever pops in our mind before we start recording, right?

Nicholas Pepin: Well, ⁓ well, I've got some... I was struck by an idea. I don't want to give it away just yet. But we just did one of our stranger brackets today. ⁓ So I don't know when this episode's coming out, but... Okay, so around the same time this episode is airing, you can head over to Popocha Roulette and hear one of our stranger brackets that we've ever done. Which is saying something for us. But I've got...

Tim Williams: Okay. This Friday. Ha ha ha.

Nicholas Pepin: I've got a really good idea percolating in my head. just, I don't want to give it away just yet.

Tim Williams: Gotcha. Good tease there. Good tease. Well, Chad, you don't have a a podcaster for moat that I know of. Anything in the works still?

ASHLEY: No. Now just the next ⁓ next episode's one of yours. ⁓ living the dream, doing the radio gig down in Jackson still. So yeah.

Tim Williams: Nice. Gotcha. Good deal. Well, awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for being a part, joining us and talking about Ernest P. World. Know what mean? But that's a wrap on another trip through the greatest decade of cinema. We sparked a memory or helped you rediscover a classic. Please head over to Apple Podcast. Leave us a five-star review. It does truly help the show reach more fans like you to make sure you're always in the loop. For our next deep dive, hit that follow or subscribe button. And if you want to help keep the show running, consider being a partner at buymeacoffee.com. For more 80s goodness, our digital headquarters is always open at 80sflickflashback.com. While you're there, check out our tea public store for original designs and movie-inspired merch that will have you looking like an 80s icon. Well, thanks again for tuning in. I'm Tim Williams for the 80s Flick Flashback Podcast. Well, at least nobody got hurt.