"Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan" (1989) with Charlie Cotter, Nicholas Pepin & Laramy Wells

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1989 Jason Voorhees decided it
was time to leave the woods

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behind and head for the big
city.

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After 7 films of terrorizing
camp counters at Crystal Lake,

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the iconic slasher traded the
pine trees for a luxury liner

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and the neon lights of the
concrete jungle.

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It was a bold move that promised
a change of scenery, a high body

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count, and the ultimate urban
showdown.

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Did it deliver?
Stay tuned to find out.

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Pack your bags, board the
Lazarus, and when you get to New

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York, be sure to avoid the
sewers filled with toxic waste

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as Charlie Cotter, Nicholas
Pepin, Laramie Wells and I

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discuss Friday the 13th Part 8.
Jason takes Manhattan on this

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episode of the 80s Flick
Flashback Podcast.

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Welcome to the show, everybody.
I am your host, Tim Williams.

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To help me navigate these murky
waters, I brought in a crew of

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true survivors.
First up, as a man who knows

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that if you see a hockey mask in
the engine room, you should

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probably just jump ship, It's
Charlie Cotter.

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Welcome back to the show.
Charlie.

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How you doing?
I'm good Tim, thanks for having

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me.
I've I've seen my fair share of

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hockey masks.
Yeah, next.

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He's been here so many times,
he's practically teleporting

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from scene to scene, just like
Jason in this movie.

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It's Nicholas Pippen from Pop
Culture Roulette.

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How you doing Nicholas?
This podcast is doomed.

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And finally, he's the one who
survived more Friday the 13th

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than a final girl.
It's Laramie Wells from Moving

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Panels podcast.
Tim, the first thing you were

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supposed to do was blow the horn
indicating the maritime.

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Whatever the crap, whatever the
yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Laramie's our final girl, thank.
You.

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Thank you.
I did just finish reading Final

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Girl support group so.
Right, right in line.

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All right, yeah.
So I was telling the guys before

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we started recording, is this a
bittersweet podcast?

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Is this is the final entry of
Friday the 13th in the 80s?

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Or is this a sweet sweet because
it is the final Friday the 13th

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entry of the 80s.
But we've come a long way.

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Yes, and it's it's the final
Friday.

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That's because they're The other
two aren't even called Friday

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the 13th.
Yeah, the next one was Freddy

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versus Hell.
Oh, Jason goes to hell.

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That's right.
Jason goes to hell.

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Jason X Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So J Drop.

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Well, there was the.
There was.

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There was the.
Remake slash Yeah, yeah, reboot,

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reboot running Jason.
Well, we still have part 9,

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that's next.
And then you have, well that.

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That's part 9 is Jason goes to
Hell.

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Yeah, and then you have the.
That's when we get Freddie

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involved.
Gotcha, Gotcha.

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Yeah, yeah, I just love the
title.

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Jason takes Manhattan like the
musical.

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Virtually, Jason takes Manhattan
Avenger.

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Yes, yes, let's, let's let's
jump right in.

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Yeah, let's jump right in.
All right.

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Well, you know how we play this
game.

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Charlie, I'll start with you.
When did you see Jason Takes

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Manhattan?
I'm just going to call that

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instead of the Friday the 13th
Part 8, Jason Takes Manhattan.

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First time was a couple years
ago when I watched that box set,

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so probably 20, 16 or so and
didn't love it then, don't love

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it now, but you know it when you
start with seven other ones

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before it you got to finish the
series so.

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Yeah, yeah.
And I will say, I'm, I'm glad

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that my podcast allows you to
get more uses out of that box

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set than you ever thought you
would.

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You're the reason I bought it.
All right, Nicholas, what about

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you?
As I've talked about on previous

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episodes, wasn't allowed to
watch horror movies when I was

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growing up, right?
So this would have been the

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2002, 2003 when they announced
Freddie versus Jason, I was

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like, I'm going to see the
movie.

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I have to see all of the
franchise before.

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So like in a very short time
span, I just been wow, that's

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just the way my brain works.
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So I binged them all and I've
got my problems with this one,

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but it it is it's fun.
I mean, it's not good, but it's

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fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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All right, Laramie, what about
you?

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But.
You know, I saw it on TV.

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Hey, yeah, I'm not.
I'm surprised this one was even

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aired on TV.
Was like does anybody care about

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this one to watch on TV?
Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure it was

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WATL 36 in Atlanta.
I'm pretty sure I watched it

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just like in the middle of a
Saturday.

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Yeah, when I was a kid, like,
yeah, no, I there for some

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reason there are parts of this
movie that I remember more than

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other Friday the 13th movie.
So I don't know if I just saw

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this one more frequently growing
up.

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Something about like especially
the ending with with him in the

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sewer.
Yeah, there's I don't know if

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that just stuck with me so much
longer, like I always remember

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that.
I will say though, when I

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rewatched it a couple years ago
I I totally forgot about the

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cargo ship, I mean the cruise
ship that they are on at the

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beginning of the movie.
Like, totally forgot.

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Yeah, in the intro when I say
luxury liner, I was very

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generous.
That's the word.

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Yeah.
Very generous with luxury liner.

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Yeah.
So believe it or not, and you'll

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probably believe it, this was my
first time watch.

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I had never seen this one
before, and now I know why.

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Because it's not.
It's definitely not in my top

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seven.
I'll put it that way.

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So how long has it been since
you rewatched it before

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rewatching it for the podcast?
We'll go other way this time.

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So, Laramie, I'll let you start.
I guess I, I just said, you

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know, it's like a couple years
ago, yeah, a couple years ago.

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It wasn't too, too long ago, but
because this usually is kind of

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a these movies are kind of a go
to for me for like Halloween and

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Friday the 13th.
You know all those classic

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slashers like this and Nightmare
on Elm Street.

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I don't get to watch them as
much as I probably would like to

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because I like bad horror
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So even when it's bad, I tend to
enjoy them so.

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Yeah, yeah, I've come to
appreciate bad horror movies a

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lot more, like, and the 80s is
full of them.

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So it's kind of fun just to
throw in an obscure one that

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I've never seen before.
It's fun.

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Toby is full of them as well.
Yes, the streamers have been a

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treasure trove of bad 80s
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So.
I just recently watched all

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three of the horror movies they
made about Popeye the Sailor

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Man.
Oh my gosh, yeah.

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The Popeye the Slayer The Slayer
is a.

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Yeah, there's Popeye the Slayer.
Man, I don't even remember all

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of their names.
I was making something up.

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I don't know if that was.
True or not?

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That is, it is true.
Gotcha.

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All right, Nicholas, how about
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How long has it been?
It's been a while.

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This is not one of the ones I go
back and revisit.

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It's, it's, I mean, I think I, I
mean, I'm going to put it higher

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on the list than 8 if I had to
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maybe 6 or 7.
But you know, I, I would

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actually have to sit down and
physically write you out that

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list if, if I was, if you were
to push me on it, I had to pull

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out my box set as well because
apparently we're not streaming

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part 8 anywhere.
Jason took Manhattan, but he

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didn't take Peacock.
Yeah, what about you, Charlie?

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I actually watched it this
morning, so I am very familiar

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with the movie now.
Very fresh on the mind.

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Quite unfortunate that it's
fresh on the mind, but it is

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what it is.
I actually wrote down all the

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things I like about it and the
things I don't like about it,

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and I was surprised at how many
things I did like about it.

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OK.
OK, so before this morning, how

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long it have been since you
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2016.
Yeah, it's.

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It's not high on the repeat
watch list, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, keep that in mind
That'll that'll be important

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later.
All right, well, we're going

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into our new segment, which I
have now titled Risky quizness.

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I'm trying, I'm working, it's
working and we'll see how how

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were that trends here this week
or risky quizzes.

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So we do our little trivia game.
I got five true or false

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questions.
The guys get to work as a team

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to answer whether they believe
it's true or false based on

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information about the story,
origin and pre production.

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So let's jump right in number
one, true or false.

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The original script for Jason
Takes Manhattan featured Jason

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climbing the Empire State
Building, jumping onto the

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Brooklyn Bridge, but those were
cut due to a massive budget

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required.
I believe it.

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That's.
Yeah, I actually know that's

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true, OK.
All right, then that's true it.

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Is all right.
Yeah.

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Yes, that is true.
Writer, director Rob Heddon's

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initial draft was much more
ambitious.

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He had written scenes of the
Statue of Liberty, Madison

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Square Garden in the Empire
State Building, Paramount

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Pictures, Whoever slashed the
budget, pun intended, forcing

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most of the Manhattan action to
be moved to a ship or back alley

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streets in Vancouver, BC All
right, Number two, true or

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false?
Despite the title, only about 5

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to 10 minutes of the film were
actually shot in New York City.

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I wouldn't.
I'd be surprised.

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Yeah, it's under that would be,
I would think.

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Yeah, that we are.
Are we?

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Saying the part that was
actually filmed in New York

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City, like the one scene or the
stuff that was supposedly

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filmed, No.
Actually filmed.

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Actually filmed in New York
City, Yeah.

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All right.
Yeah, I'll go with that.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we kind of, yeah, we all

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kind of true.
The vast majority of the movie

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was filmed in Vancouver.
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sequence and a few transition
shots were filmed on location in

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New York City to save on
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I'll be wrong, I assumed.
This transition shots were just

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stock footage they stole from
some other movie.

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Right, right, right.
Allah, Allah, Roger Corman.

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Now, did you find out like did
they actually get like filming

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permission or did they do that
kind of guerrilla style?

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Because the fact that when they
come out of the subway, they

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come out of the subway, there is
a dude that walks by them that

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I'm pretty sure was nude
underneath his coat.

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I don't know if either any of
y'all caught that guy.

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I've.
Missed that one.

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No, I saw him.
Yeah, he walks by and he's like

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this and his coat stops like mid
thigh and it's just leg.

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Yeah.
I mean, it's New York City.

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Very possible, yeah.
In 1988, yeah.

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Yeah, I think I'm from what I
heard, they had two days to film

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in New York.
So and then there's the one shot

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that we're going to get to
probably the best shot.

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And you can see on the side
there's like fenced off people

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and it's people who knew they
were filming and we're like

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lined up.
And Kane Hotter said that he

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would look over there and like
full makeup and freak them out.

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So I think they had legitimate
rights.

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I just think it was for very,
very limited time they.

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Couldn't afford like, it was so
expensive to film in New York at

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that time.
Yeah.

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So.
So.

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Yeah.
All right.

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You're going Doing good.
Number three.

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True or false?
Part 8 marked the first time in

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the franchise that an actor
returned to play Jason Voorhees

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for a second consecutive film.
True Kane.

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Hotter.
Yep.

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Second of four, everybody.
Agree, I see shaking heads but

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they can't see your head on a
podcast.

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I'm trying to think.
I'm trying to remember if

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anybody did it.
No, I'm going to have to to to

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give this one to Laramie because
I I can't disagree with him.

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Yeah, I think.
It's true, I was trying to

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remember the names of them.
I can only remember 3 and 2.

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Yeah, so it is true.
Kane Hotter played Jason in Part

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7, The New Blood, in return for
Part 8.

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He eventually became the only
actor to play the role four

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times in a row, cementing his
status as the definitive Jason

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for many fans.
So.

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The only reason he didn't play
him and Freddy versus Jason was

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he was too short because Robert
Anglin was much taller than him.

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Which is crazy to think about
it.

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Is yeah, which is also.
Crazy because I don't know if

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we're going to get to this, but
the guy who replaces them is

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also in this movie.
Yes, I don't.

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I had I, I did read that, but I
didn't see it on my notes.

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If you want to go ahead and talk
about it, you can put it in

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right here, yeah.
So when they're in New York that

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he, you know, the two main
characters, Sean and Rennie,

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whatever name that is, they go
through this diner and then the

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diner waitress tells them that,
you know, this is New York.

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And then Jason bust through the
door, which is I love when Jason

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just bust through doors like
that.

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He doesn't in this movie.
But then the cook or the chef of

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the diner, Ken Kerzinger, he is
his eventual replacement.

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Yeah, you like, Laramie said.
He's like 66.

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So yeah, he's a big, he's a big
boy.

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Yeah.
He did some of the stunts, some

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of Kane's hotter stunts in this
one only like 2 or 3 was.

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I mean, Kane hotter did most of
his own stunts, but I think this

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one, he did a few.
But yeah.

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But when you're playing Jason,
you can't be injured.

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So yeah, yeah, only do so many,
yeah, so many stunts, right.

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All right, we're tracking on #4
true or false?

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Director Rob Heaton originally
pitched the idea of the movie

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taking place entirely on the
ship.

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A Paramount executives were the
ones who forced him to move the

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third act to the streets of New
York.

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I could see.
That I mean.

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Yeah, I could see it.
We pretty much did see it.

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I feel like if I was reading
right, they wanted to do so much

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more in New York that that
wasn't originally like they they

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they were supposed to be on the
cruise ship for much shorter but

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they had to expand it because of
of the budget.

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That and they also didn't want
to film this one at all.

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They had a whole another sequel
they had planned for it anyway,

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so all right, so.
We got false, so Nicholas is

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going false.
Anybody go with?

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Nicholas he, he sounded
knowledgeable on that.

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I don't know, Nicholas.
Nicholas is correct, it was

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false.
It's actually the opposite.

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Eden's original pitch was all
about the city, but Paramount

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told him they couldn't afford
it.

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Eden later joked the movie
should have been called Jason

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Takes a Cruise because so much
of it takes place on the S S

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Lazarus.
All right last one.

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This will probably the the the
hardest one but or the one that

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probably you don't know that
much about true or false.

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The actor who played the boxer
Julius who famously gets his

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head knocked off actually broke
his hand during the filming of

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the rooftop fight scene because
he hit Kane hotter's mask with a

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real punch.
True or false?

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That's.
True.

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I know that was true too,
because he bloodied his knuckles

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and he was actually hitting Kane
the whole time.

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Yeah.
Charlie knows his stuff.

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It's true.
Actor VC Dupree really did

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injure his hand during the
filming of the rooftop scene.

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He had to throw dozens of
punches at Kane Hotter.

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Even though Hotter was wearing
padding, the repetitive impact

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against the hard plastic of the
hockey mask caused Dupree's hand

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to swell and eventually
fracture.

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But yeah, I did read like Kane
Hotter told me was like, don't

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pull any punches.
I'm a stuntman.

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Just go ahead and and go for it.
So he he was actually like

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throwing those hits.
I want to know how slippery that

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roof was, though, because every
time he threw a punch, it was

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like he was about he was always
slipping and sliding.

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So I was like, it's got to be
bad.

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But all right, good job.
That was I think that's the

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first time we've had a full
sweep that all all were entered

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correctly.
So the the first, the first

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championship team.
Here we go so congratulations.

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So let us know how you did
listeners in the in the quiz as

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well.
Leave us a comment.

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Send us a message so.
What's our prize Dem?

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You get to come back for another
episode.

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Unfortunately, it won't be
another Friday the 13th episode

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because there are no more to
cover.

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All right, so the abbreviated
version of the storage and their

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pre production.
After the underwhelming

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performance of The New Blood,
Paramount was flooded with wild

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pitches for a sequel, including
a rematch with a telekinetic

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Tina Shepherd and a bizarre
twist where Jason's rival Nick

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was the real killer.
Ultimately, the studio handed

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the keys to debut director Rob
Heedon, whose mission was

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simple.
Get Jason out of that stupid

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lake.
Eden's initial vision was a

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sprawling, high octane urban
massacre featuring Jason

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crashing Broadway plays,
brawling at Madison Square

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Garden and diving off the Statue
of Liberty.

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However, when faced with the
cold reality of a tight

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Paramount budget, the grand
Manhattan epic was scaled back

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to a hybrid voyage to keep the
project under wraps.

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The film move forward under the
secret title Ashes to Ashes,

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Trading the bright lights of New
York City for the claustrophobic

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quarters of a cruise ship, with
just enough Big Apple left in

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the script to keep the title
alive.

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Sure, anything to anything to
add?

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It's like waiting for Godot.
That's what it Yeah, kind.

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Of like you said Tim, instead of
you know Jason takes a cruise.

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I heard the Friday the 13th on a
boat on.

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A boat on a boat.
And it's crazy because this was

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my first time watched.
Like I did not know that it was

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going to take place on a ship
until I started watching.

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And I was like, OK, this isn't
what I expected.

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What I'm sure is what every
person that went to see the

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movie thought.
The same thing is like as Jason

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takes Manhattan, why are we not
in the city?

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And why 40 minutes into the
movie are we still on the boat?

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So.
Why, an hour into the movie, are

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we still on the boat?
And and how does Crystal Lake

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attach to the Atlantic Ocean?
That's what I want to know.

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Don't.
Ask.

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Questions, right?
Right.

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How does?
A ship that big start in Crystal

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Lake well.
See, I I don't think that no,

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this one, it's the boat that
it's the boat that he attacks

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the couple on is in Crystal.
Lake and.

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Then it drifts to where the the
the other one is, even though

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these are the seniors of Crystal
Lake High School or whatever

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who.
Knows like. 88 kids, nine kids.

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Like, not very like for for that
big of a cruise ship with nobody

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else on it, right?
Right.

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I was like calling it a cruise
ship was really once again, very

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generous because it was, you
know, I guess you'd be like

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maybe like a dinner cruise ship,
but there really wasn't.

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It didn't feel like a cruise
ship.

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It felt like a, what'd you call
it?

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What'd you call?
It a party.

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Boat, No, but it was more like a
freight you.

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Called it a cargo ship.
Cargo.

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Ship.
Yeah, that's what it really felt

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like, a cargo ship, which
probably all looked like.

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A cruise ship.
You had the sauna, you had the

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dance floor, you had the
everything else.

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Yeah, there was.
Some deck chairs?

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Yeah, a few.
Yeah, I guess jump board.

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Speaking of the how did it get
out of the the lake?

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Many of the actors pointed out
to themselves a plot hole

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earlier in the filming of the
movie.

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They wondered how the ship got
out of Crystal Lake and into the

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Atlantic Ocean.
Since most of them are just

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happy to be in a film.
They didn't bring it up to the

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producer or director during the
film.

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Yeah, so.
But even they do like, how is

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this even possible?
Shut up, man.

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You're in a movie.
So.

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I also I also needed a shot
underwater because clearly while

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they were in the raft, Jason is
walking underneath them.

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00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,840
Yeah, because he.
Arrives in Manhattan the exact

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same time they do.
I as they were when, when they

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were like, oh, it's the Statue
of Liberty.

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We're we're in New York and I'm
thinking there's no other boats

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around.
I was like, Jason, is he just

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like, sorry, is he like holding
on to like the, the underneath

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the the raft waiting to get
there?

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Like, well, why they're right
there.

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He could just kill them all.
He could.

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He could deflate the raft right
then and it'd be the movie's

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over, so.
He is on the the ocean floor

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just walking.
Just walking and watching,

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Watching them as he walks, Yeah.
I mean, it's just like the end.

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Of the movie, like you talked
about raising the body count,

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the number of people Jason just
passes by chasing these two

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people, right?
Makes.

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No sense.
Yeah.

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00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,800
Yeah, I mean, well, Jason's
transportation powers are in

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full tilt.
I mean, it's always been crazy

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in the in the franchise anyway.
Like, everybody's running at

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full speed trying to get away
from him, and then they trip and

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they turn around and he's right
there.

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I mean, this one, the guy went
to climb a mast, look, looks

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down, sees him, looks back up,
turns back around and Jason's

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ripping him off.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Like, so.

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I mean, clearly at this point
we've gone full supernatural

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Jason and he has some sort of
like transporter device like.

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They also though, and I don't
know who was just Kane Hotter's

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performance, but Jason goes a
little bit backwards a little

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bit and almost turns back into
like the hunter Jason from like

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going back to like Part 2.
Yeah, yeah, you know, where he's

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actually like you can, he's
thinking about what he's doing

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and which is it's weird after
seeing, you know, like 6 and

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seven where he is just full on
monster at that point.

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I mean the fact that he turns.
Around and takes his mask off

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just to scare the four kids.
Yeah.

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Yeah, choices.
Weird, I did.

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Find it interesting that in in a
pure killing machine who just

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kills everybody and everything
in every other movie.

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Like like on the subway he just
walks by and doesn't just like

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pushes that one.
Woman.

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00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,920
Yeah, like, doesn't Lop heads
off while he's walking by them?

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You know, just like I want to
kill those two.

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And that's it.
That's it.

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Yeah, yeah, same thing in the
diner when you throw after he

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throws the cook.
Like he just stares down the

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waitress as he walks by her.
Like, yeah, I mean, come on,

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kill somebody.
Jason, They weren't.

436
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There anymore?
I didn't.

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00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:32,240
I didn't pay for you to look at
people I can't pay.

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00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840
For you, I didn't pay for you to
take a tour of Manhattan.

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00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,080
Right.
I mean, to be fair, it was

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probably the first time Jason
ever left Crystal Lake.

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00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,560
Yeah.
So except no, no, wait.

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Was it Part 2?
When he go, when he somehow

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finds his finds his way to the
the girl's house in the suburbs

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and kills her in her kitchen,
right.

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00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,240
OK, that is true.
He did.

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He did a couple times go to the
suburbs and then come right

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back.
But it's the first time he's

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ever been to the big city.
Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

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And he, he had to take it all in
soon as he got up there.

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Oh, pretty lights like.
Nicholas was saying the whole

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teleportation.
It gets kind of frustrating

453
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760
because it's just like selective
teleportation.

454
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,480
You know when he throws the
uncle out of the window Like

455
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,360
that was super cool, but then
why doesn't he use it on the

456
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,320
train?
Why doesn't he use it catching

457
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:28,200
back up to the final girl and
the the guy he just chooses when

458
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,960
the plot tells him to the
teleport, that's when he

459
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,040
teleports.
It's it's.

460
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,000
Almost like the Weeping Angels
from Doctor Who.

461
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,640
If you look at him, he can't do
it.

462
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,760
I'm a I'm probably about to go
off on a tangent.

463
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,440
I'm going to warn you to go
ahead.

464
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,840
The fact that he's underwater at
the beginning of the movie, he

465
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,320
comes out from under the water.
He comes, he's clearly walking

466
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,880
underwater when they're on the
raft.

467
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,760
He he has no problem with water
until the end of the movie when

468
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,680
he is all of a sudden terrified
of water.

469
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,360
I know it's it's toxic.
Waste.

470
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Toxic waste.
Doesn't know that.

471
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,320
Yeah.
Plus he plus we get the the

472
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,160
really bad mask puppet doing
hit.

473
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,960
Don't let me drown, Mommy.
Yeah, don't let.

474
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,720
Me.
Which brings me to my tangent.

475
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,200
Oh, that wasn't the tangent.
OK, Part 2.

476
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,240
Go ahead.
They have established that Jason

477
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,080
in fact did not drown as a
child.

478
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:37,440
That was retcon in Part 2, right
after the first movie that he

479
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,440
survived and then lived in the
woods.

480
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,000
Yes, and he.
Doesn't die until part 4 comes

481
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,320
back in part 6 as a zombie.
He never drowned as a child.

482
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,120
So the whole thing that that
they wrap around this movie

483
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,200
about him drowning as a child
and about him being a child and

484
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,400
her constantly seeing him as a
child and then him reverting

485
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,960
back to a child makes no sense.
Yeah.

486
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,600
What?
Follow your own cannon.

487
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,080
Pitch posh.
No.

488
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,280
Yeah, yeah, I was.
We'll never.

489
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,640
Get to the one that we were.
We're not going to talk about

490
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,720
Part 9, which really just throws
all cannon out the window

491
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,080
altogether.
He can.

492
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,160
Eat his heart and you'll become
Jason.

493
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:29,240
Yeah.
Yeah, I I even like all the like

494
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,560
the the scenes of her seeing him
as a kid and like the visions,

495
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,640
like, OK, were they trying to
like somewhat connected to the

496
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,600
last movie with the telekinetic
power stuff?

497
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,160
Like it just, it was, yeah, it
was bad.

498
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,960
I think it.
Was just because the main girl

499
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,160
was scared of water and they
were trying to.

500
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,280
Oh, Jason's also afraid of water
for this thing that never

501
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,240
happened.
Yeah.

502
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,560
But he's not.
He clearly shows in every scene

503
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,680
but the.
She's clearly terrified of

504
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,160
water.
And then why did it take, you

505
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,040
know, the end of the movie for
her to have that one flashback

506
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,040
where she remembers that the guy
threw her in the water to try to

507
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,520
like, what a horrible thing to
do.

508
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960
Worst uncle ever.
Yeah.

509
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,000
Not when not.
When she gets thrown in the

510
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,760
water, yeah, you would think
that might be a triggering event

511
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,880
of like, oh, wait, this happened
before, right?

512
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Right.
Yeah, exactly.

513
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,360
OK, let's let's take a pause
from there and jump into the

514
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:35,400
cast.
A lots of people that we only

515
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,040
see in this movie, so we'll go
to this pretty quick.

516
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
There's a few, but before we
jump into who's actually in the

517
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,720
movie, we'll mention that Laura
Park Lincoln originally wanted

518
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,560
to sign on to reprise her role
as Tina Shepherd in Part 8, but

519
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,760
she wanted a higher salary than
she was paid for the new blood.

520
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Go figure that one.
Paramount told her that their

521
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,400
budget could not afford to pay
her any more than what she

522
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,280
bargained for and because of
this she turned down the part.

523
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,120
Thus Paramount decided to
rewrite the entire script for

524
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,080
part 8 to take the movie in a
whole new direction, which later

525
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,400
completely excluded the
character of Tina all together

526
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,720
as they decided they didn't want
anyone from part 7 to return.

527
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,680
Like there was so many of them
to return from part 7.

528
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280
So this.
Would have been Friday the 13th,

529
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,880
Part 7, the new blood Part 2.
Yeah, OK.

530
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,040
The new, new blood, Yeah.
Yeah, the new new blood.

531
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,040
All right, so cast Jensen
Daggett as Rennie Wickham.

532
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,880
She has appeared in this movie
as well as Major League Back to

533
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520
the Minors, the one Major League
movie we don't talk about.

534
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,640
She had a recurring role as
Nancy Taylor on home

535
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,200
improvement.
Home.

536
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Improvement.
That's what I knew her from.

537
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,720
And that's it.
That's where we know her from.

538
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Nope, I.
Knew her from home improvement

539
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,640
that's.
And then we've got Scott Reeves

540
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,040
as Sean Robertson.
All of these character names are

541
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,480
like the first time seeing them
because I didn't know anybody's

542
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,080
name in this movie.
He's known for playing the roles

543
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,880
of Ryan McNeil on the CBS
daytime soap opera The Young and

544
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,160
the Restless, Young and the
Restless from 91 to 2001.

545
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,080
He played Stephen Weber on the
ABC daytime soap opera General

546
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,240
Hospital from 2009 to 2013 and
then returned in 2024.

547
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,680
I won't go into the wood.
The plot twist was there, and he

548
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,960
was also Noel Loughlin on the
ABC series Nashville from 2014

549
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,880
to 2016.
OK, Nope.

550
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,880
I knew him from from Young and
the Restless.

551
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,200
That was my, you know, my mom
and grandmother and all that

552
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,040
soap opera from when I was a
kid.

553
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,400
So, you know, home from school
or being babysat.

554
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,160
That was it.
I can even remember he was

555
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,400
Victoria Newman's boyfriend on
that show.

556
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,520
OK, you remember more than I
did.

557
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,840
Yep.
I.

558
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Only know him from this movie.
All right, then we've got

559
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Barbara Bingham as Colleen Van
Dusen a her screen credit.

560
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,920
Yeah, credit include this movie
Soldiers, Fortune Cop, Target,

561
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Beyond Darkness, Dread House
Dark and Romance on the Menu

562
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,040
which is 123456 movies I've
never heard of.

563
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:20,040
Never heard of but I also love
that she gets a death that we

564
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,600
don't see.
Yes.

565
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,920
Yeah, like don't.
Even show her like fighting to

566
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,920
get out of the car or anything
and.

567
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,280
They never.
Mentioned it either.

568
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Oh no.
Yeah, all right.

569
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Then we got Peter Mark Richmond
as Charles McCullough.

570
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,840
His numerous roles included
appearances in The Twilight

571
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,720
Zone, 1959, The Fugitive 1963,
The Virginia 1962, An Impossible

572
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,280
1966.
He was also on Star Trek The

573
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,960
Next Generation.
He came across like as just a

574
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,800
very like 1 dimensional
character.

575
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Like most of them are very
one-dimensional.

576
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,880
But like his delivery was just
it, it was very much like ATV

577
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,800
actor of the 70s and 80s.
So which which, you know, shows

578
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,200
definitely.
He.

579
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,840
He was, wasn't he?
Yeah.

580
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,520
Exactly.
I was saying that's why I came

581
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,080
across that way.
And I will say, like, I don't

582
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,840
know if it was necessarily the
directing or the acting, but

583
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,840
it's pretty terrible, I mean,
overall.

584
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,640
It it's funny you say that
because as the comic book guy, I

585
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,800
can let you know that he was the
voice of the Phantom on the

586
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,040
animated series Defenders of the
Earth.

587
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,920
OK.
OK, he definitely had a

588
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000
distinctive voice.
I just can't remember who he

589
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,040
reminded me of.
I should have wrote it down.

590
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,640
All right, moving right along,
we got Martin Cummins as Wayne

591
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,560
Weber.
His other appearances include

592
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:48,240
the TV series When Calls the
Heart, Andromeda, the 4400 Kyle

593
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,960
XY, lot of sci-fi shows there.
He was on Smallville, Stargate

594
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,320
SG-1, Life as we know it, and he
was also in The Omen for The

595
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,360
Awakening.
So once again, I have no idea

596
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,440
who that was in the movie, but
that was what he was in.

597
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,320
That was the video camera guy
is.

598
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,840
It OK, that makes sense.
Then we got Gordon Curry as

599
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,200
Miles Wolff.
One of his breakthrough roles

600
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,200
was playing Officer Pallone on
21 Jump St. 1987.

601
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,080
In 1991.
After a couple of years working

602
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,680
in locally shot TV and film in
Vancouver, he moved to Los

603
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Angeles to study acting.
His first roommate was Brad

604
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,960
Pitt, which is why he makes the
list.

605
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200
And it's good that he's known
for something.

606
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,440
Yes.
Yeah, there.

607
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,160
This.
Movie and being roommates with

608
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,760
Brad Pitt there you.
Go Yeah, sure.

609
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,280
He put that on his resume.
The one actress that I did

610
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,440
recognize, Kelly, who as Ego,
won A1, Atabi won a Watanabi.

611
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,640
Watanabi.
Yeah, yeah.

612
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,720
She starred as Doctor Ray Chang
on the American TV soap opera

613
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Sunset Beach and as Michelle
Chan on the American television

614
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,200
police drama series Nash
Bridges.

615
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,240
And her her claim to fame is The
Scorpion King in 2002 as well as

616
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,880
X2 in 2003.
She also appeared as Chyna White

617
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,040
in The CW series Arrow Arrow.
And she also had her current

618
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,760
roles in The Vampire Diaries,
which was filmed where in

619
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Laramie's hometown.
And she also has some animated

620
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,560
some voice work on Disney
Channel animated series Phineas

621
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,040
and Ferb Rapunzel's Tangled
Adventure.

622
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,920
And she was the voice of
Cheshire and Paula Crock, the

623
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,560
Huntress and Young Justice.
This was her film debut and she

624
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,000
was the first Asian character in
the series and.

625
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440
Far and away the most famous
person in this movie other than

626
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,360
maybe Tain hotter than one of
the but more people could

627
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,000
recognize her because at least
you know what her face look.

628
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,200
Like, yeah, yeah.
And at least two of her three

629
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,920
movies are good.
Yeah.

630
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,760
Which one are you talking about?
Two.

631
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,760
Among, I was about to say, is X2
among those.

632
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,200
Yeah, X2 is great.
Yeah, X. 2 is great.

633
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,120
Yeah, Lady Death Strike.
We won't talk about the Scorpion

634
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,480
King.
That's on your top ten list,

635
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,560
Charlie, but.
No, I love the Scorpion King.

636
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,800
I mean, this one's bad.
No, the Scorpion King.

637
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,719
I love him.
Oh yeah, yeah, The Rock.

638
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,000
All right, so last few here we
got Saffron Henderson as JJ

639
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,760
Jarrett.
Henderson appeared in the live

640
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:34,880
action movie The Fly 2 and the
romantic comedy Cousins, and

641
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,440
that's it.
She's the rocker that she gets

642
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,480
killed by Jason Voorhees with
her own guitar so.

643
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,440
Yeah, she's a voice actor
though, isn't she?

644
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,320
Yeah.
Yeah, she's, and she wasn't.

645
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,480
She was actually, she was a
singer as well.

646
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,320
So she was part of like, some
band at the time and then who

647
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,400
have been waiting to talk about
all the whole time.

648
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,000
Kane Hotter as Jason Voorhees,
of course, we've mentioned

649
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,320
talked about him in last
episode.

650
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,000
But he did say that one of the
most fun parts of his tenure as

651
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,800
Jason were the scenes in Times
Square.

652
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,760
He says that spectators were
lined up and down the block

653
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,200
watching the filming, and he
didn't want to take his mask off

654
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,160
to destroy their illusion of
Jason.

655
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,760
He said that every once in
awhile, he'd turn his head and

656
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,640
look at them and watch them all
go crazy.

657
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,840
And most of the cast had a
Friday the 13th marathon and

658
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,880
watch parts of one through 7 the
day prior to shooting.

659
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,880
They were intent on making part
8 quote UN quote the best one.

660
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,480
Failed at that mission not
accomplished, right?

661
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,120
Right.
Watching one through 7 was

662
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,880
probably not the best All right
well let's talk about iconic

663
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,280
favorite scenes.
So if somebody says to you,

664
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480
Jason takes Manhattan, what's
the first thing that pops in

665
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,120
your head The.
Billboard.

666
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,160
Oh, the Billboard scene.
Yeah, that's a.

667
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,280
Good one.
The.

668
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:59,760
Scene the three seconds of Jason
realizing where he is looking up

669
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,760
and just the the panoramic of
Manhattan.

670
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,640
That was obviously the best.
Scene the The rooftop boxing

671
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,880
scene where.
The.

672
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Obvious mannequin head gets
knocked off.

673
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,000
That's that's I mean, if if the
first one I think of is

674
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,200
obviously Times Square, then the
rooftop box and then for the

675
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:29,800
wrong reasons the the the last
unmasking when he he takes his

676
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,480
mask off and you're supposed to
be like frightened by this.

677
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,240
I don't know what it's supposed
to be.

678
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:41,800
Yeah, like it just, but it like
because I mean like earlier he

679
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,600
takes his mask off and you don't
see it and all the punks run

680
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,600
away.
Like it's supposed to be so, so

681
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,040
like when he goes to take his
mask off and you actually get to

682
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,240
see it, like I'm expecting to
see some frightening like, you

683
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,320
know, just ripped up face or
just something like, you know,

684
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,360
it's it's a.
Spirit Halloween mask.

685
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,800
That's generous.
Yeah, I I was just like, oh,

686
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,880
that's.
Party City mask.

687
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,200
OK.
Yeah.

688
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,720
All right, the the Party City
after the Halloween is over,

689
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,840
everything is 75% off.
Yeah.

690
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,720
The.
Leftovers compared to the rest

691
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:27,320
of the movie, that was one of
the bigger let downs.

692
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:33,280
Like it was just like.
I do like Charles's death and

693
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,600
chase.
Jason is particularly menacing

694
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,960
when he kills the uncle and then
the whole teleportation and

695
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,360
throwing him out the window.
That and then and then the

696
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,840
actual drowning with the dead
rat floating on top of the

697
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,040
barrel.
Just that was perfect.

698
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Jason kill.
Yeah, yeah.

699
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Iconic scenes for me is probably
like the scene of him walking

700
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680
through and with the with the
the gang when he turns around.

701
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,560
You know, once again, this is my
first time watching the movie,

702
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,880
but I know Charlie, you had
showed me that scene like a

703
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,840
couple of years ago.
And but you were, I think you

704
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,040
were talking like it was the
most expensive scene or what was

705
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,280
what was the trivia about that?
Because I couldn't find anything

706
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,760
about it I think.
It, it was something like that.

707
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,720
It was a, you know, something
along the lines of they spent,

708
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:26,920
you know, two days in New York.
It's 90% of their budget and

709
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,800
it's on screen for a total of
like 38 seconds or something.

710
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,800
It was, it was something I put
all this something about there

711
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,400
and and that's what you got of
it.

712
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Him just taking his mask off.
It's like, wow, that was

713
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,600
wonderful money.
Well spent.

714
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,080
Yeah, him though, of him turning
away from the camera, showing

715
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,560
his face that we can't see, and
then turning back around and

716
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,160
letting them, you know, run off
and not kill them.

717
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,880
So yeah, well done.
Well done.

718
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,360
I don't know if this was
something that was happening

719
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,400
around this time with the with
horror movies, but compared to

720
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:11,000
some of the other Friday the
13th movies, the death scenes in

721
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,120
this one are kind of tame, yes.
Like, yeah, yeah, like.

722
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000
There, there's not.
I mean, there's the I love at

723
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,320
the beginning when he goes after
the couple in the the boat, He

724
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,440
tries to kill the girl with the
harpoon, misses.

725
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,920
Yeah.
Then he just kills the dude with

726
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,760
the harpoon gun.
Yeah, he just drives it.

727
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,760
But that's probably one of the
more graphic scenes because you

728
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,800
do see it punch into his
stomach.

729
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,320
Oh, that in the the sauna.
Yeah.

730
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:41,840
Yeah.
The.

731
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,240
Sauna.
Yeah, yeah, the sauna I.

732
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,400
Mean there were there were some
unique kills for Jason.

733
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Like I don't think I've ever
seen him use a guitar, an artist

734
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,440
on a rock.
Like he used the guitar.

735
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,760
So like, I mean, he used an axe.
Yeah, yeah.

736
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,640
Yeah.
But but yeah, the Sonoroc one,

737
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,360
yeah, that was, I mean, there
was some unique, unique kills in

738
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,720
this one.
I mean, there was.

739
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,000
It's not the worst Jason movie.
That one's the next one.

740
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:14,920
I was going to bring up the
alley scene where the junkies

741
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,680
are about to, you know, rape the
the main, the final girl.

742
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,080
One problem is they inject her
with the drugs, which obviously

743
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,120
does not affect her at all.
She gets up, she runs.

744
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,280
Nothing effects her in any way.
Like she doesn't have any kind

745
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,560
of like adrenaline solution.
OK, sure.

746
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,480
But Jason comes up once again.
Jason comes up and, and, and in

747
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,520
this, in essence, it saves her
because he kills the junkie by

748
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,560
jamming the hypodermic needle
through his entire chest where

749
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,520
just the needle sticks out of
the front of his shirt, which I

750
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,000
think is probably the the
weakest practical effect of the

751
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,600
of the series.
Like the needle doesn't even

752
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,560
Pierce through the the T-shirt
like them with the cloth

753
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,040
material.
But it was just like I was like,

754
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,800
OK, this is this is where we've
this is where I've ended up on

755
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,120
on kills in this, in this.
And I love that he picked up the

756
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,400
needle.
He's thinking about this is how

757
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,960
I'm going to kill this guy,
right?

758
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,160
He didn't need the needle.
Like he punches through the

759
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,200
guys.
Exactly.

760
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Exactly.
Yeah.

761
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,440
And then, of course, when his
buddy shows up and he starts

762
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,760
shooting him, like, OK, we've
seen this so many times.

763
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,880
Somebody tries to shoot him and
nothing happens.

764
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,720
Shoots.
Him 12 times from his six bullet

765
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,760
revolver, yeah.
Yeah, Another thing I like is

766
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,080
just I like the Hunter killer
Jason where it's silent and he's

767
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,320
just looking around trying to
find.

768
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,840
So when they're on the houseboat
at the very beginning and he's

769
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,720
looking for the girl who's
hidden that even though it's

770
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:51,480
only 12 seconds, 10 seconds,
that's that's a good like that's

771
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,720
the Jason I like.
That's what if they were to

772
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,560
remake a movie, which I think
they're talking about it, but

773
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:02,760
like that's the Jason I want to
see the hunter stalker searching

774
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,480
for your victim.
So I like that scene a lot.

775
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,800
Yeah, I will say the opening
scene with the boat is probably

776
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,400
one of the better openings of a
Friday the 13th move where it

777
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,120
went right into like a A.
It's the most scenario.

778
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,280
Friday the 13th.
Exactly.

779
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,640
And so it just it just
completely falls apart after

780
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,640
that for me.
Well.

781
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,480
And and you know, it has to
start with the random Deus Ex

782
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,640
machina of just like because he
threw the anchor down.

783
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Yeah.
The.

784
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,440
Cable over.
It just randomly happened to

785
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,520
reawaken Jason, who immediately
was like hey thank you for

786
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,440
waking me up.
Stab, stab, stab, stab.

787
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,480
Yeah.
And then I love how the there's

788
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,720
this huge electrical, you know,
explosion, for lack of a better

789
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,400
term, but everybody on the boat
is fine.

790
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
And they were obviously still
asleep.

791
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,040
Like did you hear that like
that?

792
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,960
There's all this like super
explosion and they they barely

793
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,280
even flinch and they and it
doesn't affect them on the boat,

794
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,120
like the boat doesn't get
electrocuted at all.

795
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Well, and the guy and the guy on
the boat just happened to have

796
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,160
the hockey mask, yes.
Yes, yes.

797
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,120
So that Jason could immediately,
yeah, put it.

798
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,280
Back up well, he needed he
needed a new clean one.

799
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,240
We didn't want the one that's
been sitting underwater for all

800
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,040
those years, all that, you know,
SharePoint.

801
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,040
SharePoint but it.
Needed to be replicated because

802
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,000
it had the axe mark from three
and and then.

803
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,040
And then she cracked it open in
seven.

804
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,920
Yeah, you know.
Timu Carey, she she cracked it,

805
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,480
so it was broken.
So he had to get a new one he

806
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,480
had.
Needed a new.

807
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,000
One, yeah, and there.
Was a big chunk out of his like

808
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,800
left or right cheek that was
missing from 7.

809
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,040
That mask had a big chunk out of
it, yeah.

810
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,000
All right, all right, well,
let's jump into some trivia If

811
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,360
you think about some other
scenes, the original posters for

812
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,200
the film featured Jason ripping
through an I Love New York

813
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,520
poster.
In the first poster, Jason is

814
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,640
holding a bloody knife, which
was cleaned in a second poster

815
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,360
for fear the blood was too
graphic.

816
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,320
But both posters were dropped
eventually following a complaint

817
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,280
from the New York Tourism
Committee.

818
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,160
Go figure.
You.

819
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,520
Didn't film the whole movie in
our city.

820
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,240
You're not going to show our
city on your poster.

821
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,960
How dare you make people believe
that it's there's violence in

822
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,960
New York, right?
Right, which wasn't the tagline

823
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,000
for the movie, like New York
just got worse or something that

824
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,200
like I.
Don't know how realistic it is

825
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,840
because I've spent little to no
time in New York.

826
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,080
But like when he's on the
subway, like stalking these

827
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,240
people, like nobody is like
freaked out about this gigantic

828
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,200
like behemoth of a guy who has
to smell.

829
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Yeah, like, yeah.
Yeah.

830
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,800
With a, with a hockey mask and
weaponry and, and like

831
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,400
everybody, everybody on the on
the subway is like, I cannot be

832
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,720
bothered by whatever this is.
I'm just going to stay full.

833
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,080
Like you're walking through
Times Square and other than the

834
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,800
punk kids, nobody, nobody cares.
Everybody flinches.

835
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,520
We've seen it with whatever.
Let's let's don't focus on it.

836
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,360
We might have to get involved.
Just let it happen.

837
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,000
Yeah, the poster tagline was New
York has a new problem, which

838
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,560
I'm sure the tourism could.
You love that tagline too.

839
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,600
But, you know, can we just say
that the opening credits did not

840
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,560
paint New York in the greatest
of lights?

841
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,840
No.
But the prologue of the film

842
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,120
foreshadows all the places that
Jason will chase the teenagers,

843
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,040
first downtown with the gang
members, then the diner, the

844
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,040
alley with the drug addicts and
the subway.

845
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,200
So OK.
I was about to go with like

846
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:51,840
alley number one.
Alley #2 alley #3 These are come

847
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,680
visit New York.
Yeah.

848
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Look at our showers with toxic
waste, yeah?

849
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,920
It takes you back to those late
80s where toxic waste was like

850
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,120
the central plot of a lot of
movies of like, you know, you're

851
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,440
destroying the earth with your
toxic waste.

852
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,880
There's always some secret toxic
waste dump that the city is

853
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,760
hiding from the public.
So it was always something.

854
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Avenger, yeah.
Oh yeah, teenage mutant.

855
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,720
Ninja Turtles, Yeah.
They must have fixed it because

856
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,840
nobody talks about toxic waste
anymore, so it must have it must

857
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,480
have took care of.
The Three eyed fish on The

858
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,800
Simpsons.
Yeah, yeah.

859
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Yeah.
All right, so Jeremy mentioned

860
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,440
this already.
The Jason face under the mask in

861
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,760
this film was designed to be
much more streamlined than

862
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,600
previous versions.
Fans often mock the look of

863
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,880
Jason when he finally loses the
mask in the sewer, jokingly

864
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,440
calling it the Muppet Jason
because of its pale, rounded,

865
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,960
and somewhat goofy appearance
compared to the rotted corpse in

866
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,920
Part Seven.
Yeah, I didn't.

867
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,920
Even know that?
Nope, I immediately thought

868
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,200
Muppet.
Muppet.

869
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,440
Jason yeah, I love it.
That whole ending is just so

870
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,480
ridiculous.
We talked about it already on

871
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,800
the DVD commentary.
The director said the original

872
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,160
version was over 2 hours long,
and he cut the following scenes

873
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,840
for time.
Several scenes with Miles, who

874
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,760
was shown to have been an
Olympic diver.

875
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,960
A scene at the beginning where
Sean hears that Rennie will not

876
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,360
be on board and is disappointed.
Several additional scenes with

877
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,920
Tamara and Eva.
Before Rennie gets pushed to the

878
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,240
water, there's a longer
conversation between her and

879
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,960
Colleen, a scene of Eva meeting
with their group on the bridge

880
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,560
and then leaving to find
tomorrow.

881
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,320
A shot of Rennie touching Jason
after he's electrocuted on the

882
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,360
railroad tracks.
The original script.

883
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,160
Sorry.
Go ahead.

884
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,720
Yeah.
Like, touching him.

885
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
He's got the touch.
Yeah.

886
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,120
So the original scripted ending
featured Jason being completely

887
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,600
melted by the toxic waste and
his soul finally being released.

888
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,600
The studio heard it, yet the
studio changed it to him turning

889
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,880
back into a child.
So if there was a chance of a

890
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,800
sequel, they didn't write
themselves into a corner like

891
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,160
that's ever stopped them before.
In the end, this hardly mattered

892
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,840
since Paramount decided not to
produce any more sequels after

893
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,880
Jason Takes Manhattan because it
didn't do well financially.

894
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,320
They sold the sequel rights to
New Line Cinema.

895
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,880
Who's Jason Goes to Hell?
The Final Friday in 1993 chose

896
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,720
to ignore most of the prior
sequels, and Jason Takes

897
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,920
Manhattan in particular.
And they also chose to just, you

898
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,320
know what?
We don't even need to explain

899
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,520
how he came back.
He's back.

900
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,400
Yeah.
Yeah, we can blow.

901
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,280
Him up at the beginning of the
movie, that's who we're.

902
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,000
We can only Frankenstein him so
many times.

903
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,080
I mean, no, that's.
Why New Line turned him in like

904
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,920
a werewolf?
Because I don't know if you

905
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,280
remember what he looks like at
the beginning of that movie.

906
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,120
He.
Looks really cool now.

907
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,320
That whole opening scene is
crazy, yeah.

908
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,560
It is next.
On my list.

909
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,920
You can skip it too.
I could I could have skipped a

910
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,800
lot of them, but I'm a gluten
for punishment at this point.

911
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,920
Why not now as they?
Finish them up, Yeah.

912
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,040
I mean, yeah, it's like
Nicholas, like if I'm going to

913
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,120
watch them, I'm going to watch
them all in.

914
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,080
For a penny in for a pound
there.

915
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,320
You go, there you go, talking
about box office.

916
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Friday the 13th Part 8.
Jason Takes Manhattan was

917
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,400
released on July 28th, 1989 in
the United States.

918
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,000
The film entered the box office
at #5 for the weekend with

919
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,880
earnings of $6.2 million.
But the film faced strong

920
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,920
competition at the time, which
released with high profile genre

921
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,680
fares such as A Nightmare on Elm
Street 5, The Dream Child,

922
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:33,200
Halloween 5, The Revenge of
Michael Myers and Fright Night

923
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Part 2.
All masterpieces in their

924
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,720
franchises.
Yes, ultimately we're going to

925
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:44,840
gross $14.3 million of U.S. box
office, making it the poorest

926
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,280
performing film in the franchise
and ranking at #70 on the list

927
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,520
of the year's top 100 earners.
So.

928
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,440
Wait, is Halloween 5 the one
with Paul Rudd?

929
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,920
Is that the Paul Rudd Halloween?
Yes.

930
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,760
No, I think.
No, no, I don't think.

931
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Paul Rudd shows up until after
age 2O but I could be no no.

932
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,520
No, no, no, he's, yeah.
No, no, he's, he was in.

933
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,520
One that we did, I think, yeah,
I think it was that one cuz it

934
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,880
was the last year.
Five.

935
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Yeah, yeah, cuz. 4 is the IT
starts with Jamie's little girl

936
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,000
and then he's in the second one
of that.

937
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,600
So that was so that.
Should be it, yeah, Yeah.

938
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,320
Very young Paul Rudd, Yeah.
So he looks the same.

939
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,320
Yeah, Yes, exactly.
Yes, exactly his.

940
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,960
Benjamin Button disease, Yeah.
All right, it's time to take a

941
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,240
look at how well this 80s flick
holds up today.

942
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:34,600
Oh boy, it's going to be a fun
one.

943
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,880
It's the rewatch ability
nostalgia meter.

944
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,600
It's our way of measuring how
enjoyable movie is for repeat

945
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,000
viewings along with the waves
and nostalgia brings.

946
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,480
Here's how it works.
It's a one to 10 scale.

947
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,200
Any number between 1:00 and
10:00 will do.

948
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Here a few parameters to help
you decide.

949
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,640
At the bottom of the meters and
number one.

950
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,280
I saw it once and that was
enough.

951
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,360
At the five in the middle is a
good rewatch every couple of

952
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,240
years.
And at the top of the meter,

953
00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:01,000
highly coveted #10 means it's
highly rewatchable and full of

954
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,400
nostalgia.
So we'll start with Charlie.

955
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Where does Jason takes Manhattan
rank for you on the rewatch

956
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:14,160
ability and nostalgia meter?
If you skip all the slow and

957
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,920
boring scenes, we're still
talking like a 2.

958
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,080
I mean, you combine all the
like, quality, oh that was cool

959
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,160
scenes in this movie and we're
talking like 5 minutes.

960
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,160
We're talking.
The Vine video is what we're

961
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,720
talking.
So it is, it is quite low, all

962
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,000
right.
Put this movie on TikTok if you

963
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,960
cut out.
Yeah.

964
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,200
All right, Laramie, I'll let you
go next.

965
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,240
Yeah, it's probably I was
thinking 3.

966
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,600
That was my initial, my initial
gut.

967
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,480
Yeah, I I really wanted to, I
really want to ask like of

968
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,000
those.
Three that we just talked about

969
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,280
that all came out the same time.
Which one is the better one like

970
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,760
that?
Yeah, I haven't.

971
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,680
I haven't rewatched The Dream
Child lately, so that that

972
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:08,600
doesn't rank high for me.
Halloween 5 was just I I can

973
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,120
actually, I think Halloween 5
was better than this one.

974
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,800
Yeah, I would say.
I don't know if I've ever seen

975
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,440
Halloween 5.
Yeah.

976
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,960
And it's been even longer since
I've seen Dream Child.

977
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,160
So yeah, I guess Friday night.
Yeah, Friday night 2 is pretty

978
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,320
terrible though.
I never.

979
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Saw that either so.
That's actually the one, the

980
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,200
only one I haven't seen.
I haven't seen Friday night 2,

981
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,280
but yeah, no, this is yeah, all
of those are in the low.

982
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,840
But yeah, again, 3 was my
initial.

983
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,920
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be upset with the two

984
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,920
like Charlie gave it.
What about you, Nicholas?

985
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,000
I mean.
I'm, I'm going to go a little

986
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,760
higher because I just I love
this year.

987
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:49,920
I love this year.
Like if you listen to pop

988
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,240
culture roulette, you know that
me and and my Co host Jeremy

989
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:57,400
have affinity for the Friday the
13th series.

990
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:03,360
We routinely vote Jason as as
our as our icon of the horror

991
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,560
genre.
So there's there's a little bit

992
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,360
of AI didn't watch them growing
up.

993
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,240
I watched them later on.
So I already had the

994
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:16,640
appreciation of bad movies.
Like I love Troma, like I love

995
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,640
Troma movies.
Like I Lloyd Kaufman is a

996
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,480
genius.
He he's not a good filmmaker,

997
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,720
but he's a genius.
So like I'm going to give it a 5

998
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,720
just because like I can watch
this one every coach so often.

999
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,160
I don't watch it.
I don't watch it very often.

1000
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:38,880
I do like it better than a
couple of other ones in this

1001
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,800
franchise, but not by much.
Like I'm it's not going to be my

1002
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,160
go to, but like if I'm like I'm
going to binge out on the on the

1003
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,800
Friday the 13th series.
Like, I'm not like, Oh no, not

1004
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,040
this one.
I will say backup back you up

1005
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:59,360
when what you said, Nicholas, I
do think Jason looks probably

1006
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,920
this is probably his second or
third best look in the entire

1007
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,080
series.
I love the he's soaking wet.

1008
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,760
So that just obviously, I mean
he's obviously constantly in wet

1009
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,160
environments.
Hockey mask looks cool when he

1010
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,240
we haven't seen his face yet,
but like the side of his head

1011
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,360
and you can tell it's like this
colored and stuff.

1012
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,560
It just his look in this movie
is very cool.

1013
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,560
I do like this look a lot.
And I'm just, I'm willing to

1014
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:35,560
forgive a lot of just inanity
that this movie has for just

1015
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,840
nostalgia.
So I mean, I understand why

1016
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,760
you'd want to give it a 2 or a
three.

1017
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Like, I get it.
I mean, I'm totally on board.

1018
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,680
But like my own personal
ranking, I'm going to give it a

1019
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,080
5.
Not a strong five like a 4.9,

1020
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,720
but like, you know, basically.
No, if I was if I was giving it

1021
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:57,440
a personal ring, I'd probably be
up there with you because I

1022
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,040
mean, I said earlier, you know,
I love watching these movies

1023
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,200
just for fun.
And and I agree with you about

1024
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,880
Jason.
I mean, I've Jason was always a

1025
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:14,400
go to Halloween costume for me.
So, and, and as Charlie saying,

1026
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,320
like I love the Kane hotter
look, Kane hotter the way he

1027
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,120
portrayed the character, you
know, the way he moved, like I

1028
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,320
always like the, you know, he he
walks with, with the his arms

1029
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:32,360
bowed out, which I, I think of a
lot of people when they think

1030
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Jason, they are picturing Kane
hotters Jason.

1031
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,560
I believe so, yes.
Yeah, yeah.

1032
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,000
Yeah, I'm, I'm right there with
Charlie and Laramie.

1033
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,400
I think I had to was my initial
miners.

1034
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,680
But once again, I have no
nostalgia for this because I

1035
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,480
didn't watch it as a kid and
it's not after watching it like

1036
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,120
I I struggled to get through it
the first time.

1037
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,920
So probably hard to watch again.
But I'm but also like Nicholas,

1038
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,320
if I'm going to watch, start
watching, if I want to watch

1039
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,560
them all again, I will watch it
because I'm I'm I'm a

1040
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,440
completist.
I have to watch all the entries.

1041
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,880
So, so definitely be re watched
again.

1042
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,880
So maybe 2.5 closer to a three
just because I'll probably watch

1043
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,160
it.
I will watch it again.

1044
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,120
But yeah, but so Britt, So now
that we've completed all of the

1045
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:23,000
ones from the 80s, so one
through 8, which one would you

1046
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,240
say is your favorite of the
franchise?

1047
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,400
I.
I've said it on this podcast,

1048
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,800
it's it's Jason Lives.
It's part 6 for me.

1049
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:37,200
I, I just, I love that movie.
I know it may not be the best

1050
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,600
story wise but it is my
favorite.

1051
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,680
Yeah, that's the one that leaned
into the the comedy of it.

1052
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,360
All right, Yes.
Yes, and the one filmed in my

1053
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,360
hometown.
So there you.

1054
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,960
Go yeah, yeah, always helps two
or three.

1055
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,240
I mean just because that's where
3.

1056
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:55,960
D.
You know, there's there's I

1057
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,560
mean, it's it's really hard to
say any of the other after I

1058
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,880
mean the first one because it's
not really Jason.

1059
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,640
I mean, yeah, is it's hard to
kind of put that in there just

1060
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,440
because it it's not I mean, it
is part of the franchise.

1061
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,600
It's kicks the whole thing off.
But I mean, 2-3 is where things

1062
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,520
get really rolling.
And then like you said, 6 I

1063
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,760
think is where they they really
lean into the, the, you know,

1064
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,120
where absurdity, the absurdity
of it.

1065
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,480
But yeah, so I mean, it would be
3 or 6 for me.

1066
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,640
Oh boy.
I would say I wasn't.

1067
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,120
Ready for this question,
Charlie?

1068
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,760
Likes 5.
Well.

1069
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,160
I think there was a reason that
I did 5 and nobody else wanted

1070
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,240
to so.
Yeah, five.

1071
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,560
Yeah, 5 is not good.
I would say.

1072
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,320
I actually 3 was the first one
that I really, really liked

1073
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,880
because that's where you get
Jason in the hockey mask.

1074
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,320
I feel like the final girl.
I think Tina maybe, I don't

1075
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,200
remember, I think she's a very
good final girl.

1076
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:08,480
I like the setting where it's on
like this farm ish kind of log

1077
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,400
cavity thing, but I also really
like 4.

1078
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,720
I think Jason and four is much
more intimidating, much more

1079
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,040
scary.
He's more like in three, he's

1080
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,760
kind of lazy.
Like he's just like when he when

1081
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,240
he first gets the mask, he just
like walks off all the dock all

1082
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,120
just like, oh, whatever. 4 is.
When he finally, that's when

1083
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,560
he's busting through doors.
That's when he jumps through the

1084
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,440
window to grab Corey Feldman.
That was the first like, oh wow,

1085
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,280
Jason, he's scary.
But I do love 66 is so good.

1086
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,320
You get the undead Jason, you
get the OK, Now he's, he was

1087
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,520
always a little scary, but now
he's we're in unknown territory

1088
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,560
and that's when he becomes super
powerful, like decapitating

1089
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,680
those three people at the same
time and OK, you're like, OK,

1090
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:08,640
this is a brand new Jason.
So to answer your question, I

1091
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:15,440
don't know 3. 4.
Yes, I would say 3-4 and six are

1092
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,520
all right there.
If I had to say one, I would say

1093
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,880
3.
OK, yeah, I'm actually, I think

1094
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,400
4 is my favorite and I think we
talked about this.

1095
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,640
I think that was the first one
that I actually saw.

1096
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,440
So I think that was because it's
the more nostalgic.

1097
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,080
But I do like I'm saying with
you, like that was the one where

1098
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,080
he was the most like intimidate,
like a, you know, busted the

1099
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,480
window.
But I do like 6 a lot too.

1100
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,560
So I think I'm kind of like four
and six are kind of like my I

1101
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,960
kind of go back and forth with
those 2.

1102
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,040
Not that I've seen them a whole.
I think I've seen 4 the most,

1103
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040
which is probably why it's the
one that I remember the most.

1104
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,440
But yeah, a good franchise
nonetheless.

1105
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,160
We've we've we've had a good
time covering them at least I

1106
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,480
have.
So my $13 well spent on Voodoo

1107
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,400
before it was before it was
Fandango at home when it was one

1108
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Friday the 13th like get the
Friday the 13th collection for

1109
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,760
$13 like I will buy that right
now and good deal it is come in

1110
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,960
handy.
So So what are?

1111
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,680
You going to do for Friday the
13th now?

1112
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,000
I'm glad you should ask Laramie,
because guess what?

1113
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,600
Next month we have another.
We have another Friday the 13th,

1114
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,720
and we're going to move up a
day, and we're going to cover

1115
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,200
Saturday the 14th, and Laramie's
going to join me for that one.

1116
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,320
So if you haven't seen it,
you've got a month to get ready.

1117
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:36,360
But it's a pretty silly parody
of the, you know, of the genre.

1118
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,200
But pretty, Yeah, pretty silly,
Pretty fun when we.

1119
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,360
Get to do the sequel.
Was that in the 80s or did that

1120
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,120
make it to the 90s?
Which was sequel of what,

1121
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,400
Saturday?
The 14th strikes again.

1122
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,640
Well, I don't know.
I don't there must be the 90s

1123
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,520
because I don't think I have to.
I don't.

1124
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,880
I didn't even know that would
have existed.

1125
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,440
I had to pull that up.
So yeah, look.

1126
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,240
Again, I I signed up because I
am a huge fan of Saturday the

1127
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,680
14th and.
By Saturday the 14th you just

1128
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,120
mean Friday the 13th Part 2
because that.

1129
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,320
On Saturday 14th.
Right, right, All right.

1130
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,400
Let us know where you think
Jason takes Manhattan should

1131
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,280
rank on the rewatch ability
nostalgia meter.

1132
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,320
And also let us know what your
favorite Friday the 13th in the

1133
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:23,360
franchise is, if you agree with
us that it's 346 or two.

1134
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,360
Nicholas, which one was yours?
Uh, 3 or 6?

1135
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Three or. 6 I I do.
Like 2.

1136
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,400
Yeah, I.
Mean I and if somebody wanted to

1137
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,640
put one in there, I wouldn't
fight them, I think.

1138
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,840
I'd fight them on.
I think I'd fight them on five.

1139
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:44,440
Yeah, we'll fight you on five.
Maybe, maybe even 7.

1140
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,000
I would, I would.
Then I would fight you even

1141
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,960
harder if you said 9 like like
I'd let you say 5 before.

1142
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,880
I'll let you say 5:00 and 9:00,
but.

1143
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,320
Really.
Oh, OK.

1144
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,200
Hot.
Takes hot, takes everybody.

1145
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,920
All right, Well, thanks
everybody for listening.

1146
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,840
So, Nicholas, what's going on
over at Pop Culture roulette?

1147
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,920
What you got going on this
Friday the 13th?

1148
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:12,760
Well, probably nothing with the
we, we've been on a great.

1149
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,120
Plug It's a great plug I.
Need to get more excited.

1150
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,640
Every time I ask you, it's like,
I don't know, we'll, we'll think

1151
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,240
of something.
Wow.

1152
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,440
It's, we've been on a bit of a
hiatus recently.

1153
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,640
Like we just put out one
episode, but then we took

1154
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,240
another break because of the
Super Bowl.

1155
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,840
So like I'm, I'm hoping just to
get back into the spring and.

1156
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,360
So we we.
I've got a lot of really good

1157
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,800
episodes planned, I just need to
actually get back into a

1158
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,280
schedule.
Gotcha.

1159
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,560
Gotcha this.
Holiday season really took it

1160
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,960
out of us, so yeah, yeah.
No, you've, you've been, you've

1161
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,440
had, you've had a few good ones
this year.

1162
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,720
So I like the recap or, you
know, going back and looking at

1163
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,040
your predictions from 2025.
So I haven't listened to your

1164
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,760
2026, you know what you're
looking forward to in 2026 yet,

1165
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,200
So.
But yeah, good stuff.

1166
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,520
I'm sure we'll do a bracket.
We haven't done one.

1167
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,440
We haven't, we haven't done one
of those in a while.

1168
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,000
So, you know, it's coming March.
Is coming up.

1169
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,280
You've got to you.
You can't.

1170
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,840
You can't let March go by
without having a bracket, right?

1171
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,440
Absolutely.
Absolutely.

1172
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,280
Hi.
What about you, Larry?

1173
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,240
What's going on over moving
panels for Friday the 13th and

1174
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,960
Valentine's Day weekend?
Yeah.

1175
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,960
So Sophia Valentine's we of
course, always do our our date

1176
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:36,520
night and that that episode
probably should have already

1177
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,880
aired by the time this one's
dropping because I released a

1178
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:45,680
little earlier in the week.
But over on our Our Side podcast

1179
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,720
King Size, we are releasing an
episode for this Friday the

1180
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,360
13th, and we decided to tie it
into Valentine's Day being the

1181
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,480
next day by covering Stephen
King's A Good Marriage.

1182
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,800
So.
Yeah, we're going to.

1183
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,200
We're going to cover that one.
But of course, when March rolls

1184
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,240
around, we are doing a bracket.
So that's right.

1185
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,480
Yeah, we're, we're going to.
Look for the the best villain,

1186
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,320
adapted villain, so the best
villain that has been portrayed

1187
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,440
on film or TV.
Nicholas and Tim both are

1188
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,280
joining me to to for that and
we're going to let the listeners

1189
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,280
vote on that one.
So tune into moving panel social

1190
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,920
media to vote for the first
round.

1191
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,160
That'll come probably within the
next week.

1192
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,200
Awesome, Charlie, you're going
to be a guest on the other

1193
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,920
podcast here anytime soon.
My.

1194
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:45,000
Votes scar.
He left the imprint imprint on

1195
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,640
me when I was growing up, so
definitely scar.

1196
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,080
No, but I'm looking forward to
watching My Bloody Valentine so

1197
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,680
the.
Original or the remake?

1198
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,640
Both eventually, but definitely
the original first, yeah.

1199
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:01,200
Yeah, I got you there.
That's.

1200
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,040
Your Valentine's Day watch?
Yep.

1201
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,200
Sure is.
All right, well, thanks

1202
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,160
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1203
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,600
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1204
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,000
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1205
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,640
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1206
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1207
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,520
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1208
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1209
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,240
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1210
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:37,360
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1211
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