#152 - "Prancer" (1989) with JB Huffman

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That Rudolph guy in his Red Nose
may get most of the hype when it

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comes to Santa's furry transport
team, but he isn't the only

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Caribou who's earned his
stripes.

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Or should I say antlers?
That's part of what makes this

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80s flick A nostalgic
centerpiece of the holidays.

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Most of the time, Santa's
reindeer service background

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fixtures at best, so getting a
story that centers around one of

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the less talked about members of
his flying troop is kind of

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brilliant and one of the main
reasons they deserves to be

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added to your Yuletide viewing
schedule.

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If it isn't already, it's in the
barn with cookies and oats as JB

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Huffman and I discuss Prancer
from 1989 on this episode of the

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80s Flip Flashback Podcast.
Welcome in everybody to the

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Flick Flashback Podcast.
I am your host, Tim Williams.

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Tonight, we're trading the North
Pole for a freezing cold farm in

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Three Oaks, Michigan.
It's time to cover the movie

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that taught us about faith,
family and a very special

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reindeer.
Here to help me nurse this

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episode back to health and
hopefully avoid getting grounded

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for eternity is the man with the
plan, JB Huffman.

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How you doing JB?
I'm doing great man, been been

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watching this movie three years
in a row and and.

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We finally got to cover.
Yeah, yeah.

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In preparation for this so I
feel like I've done my research

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this time.
Yes, yes, this is the the

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long-awaited recording.
We have literally tried to

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record this for the last three
years and it's just the

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holidays, man.
It just gets crazy busy.

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But I told him, I said this year
we're going to do it.

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Come hell or high water, we're
going to do it.

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And so we we are here.
We made it.

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I watched it again, as JB said,
and I'm excited to talk about it

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so.
So let's jump in since you're

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already ready and primed.
Primed.

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You know how we start.
When did you see Prancer for the

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first time?
Oh, man, I've been waiting for

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this moment ever since you first
asked me to be a guest because

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he always asked and I always
like.

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Well, I think I watched it when
I was a kid on TV because I, you

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know, I was born in 1985.
Yeah.

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This this was the very first
movie that I saw in theaters.

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All right.
Yes, yes, 1989, I was four years

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old and my parents took me to
see Prancer.

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So yeah, I can actually say that
that was a a good time.

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I enjoyed it.
There's some memorable moments

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which we will talk about later.
Yeah, yeah, Well, this is not

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one that I saw in the theater.
This is actually one that I did

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not, I don't think I ever really
saw until probably about three

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years ago or like in the last,
you know, it's been in the last

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like 5 or 6 years and, you know,
89.

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It came out in 89.
I'm of course, older than JB, so

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it wasn't quite on my radar.
Like I was more about Christmas

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Vacation and Scrooged and Lethal
Weapon and Die Hard.

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Those are my Christmas movies as
a, you know, preteen, maybe like

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early teenager.
So yeah, a movie about a girl

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who finds a reindeer didn't
didn't have me rushing to the to

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the theater or, you know,
pulling it off the shelf at

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Blockbuster.
But they're watching it now.

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Like watching it a couple maybe.
When I watched a couple years

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ago, I think it was OK.
But watching it again this week

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for the getting ready for the
podcast, I really appreciated it

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more.
Like it's just such a sweet,

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just a good-natured, good
hearted, simple storytelling

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movie.
It's like it's not a bunch of

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bells and whistles.
It's just just kind of one of

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those, you know, just kind of
it's a real comfort movie.

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It's just something you just
kind of want to have on just to

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feel good and just have some
nostalgia.

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So, so yeah.
So I really, I really enjoyed

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it.
I think it, I mean, I think now

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will become kind of in my
rotation to watch maybe not

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every year, but every couple of
years.

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And of course, we'll talk about
that as we get through towards

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the end for we watch a billion
nostalgia meter, but how long is

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it?
So I'm going to I'm going to

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assume that you watch this every
year.

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So has it been a year since you
watched it last before we

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watching it for the podcast?
Yeah, I don't typically watch it

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every year for but for the last
three years I have.

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You know, I think it was
probably four or five years ago.

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Actually, no, it might have been
for the podcast. 3 years ago I

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went and bought or two years ago
I've.

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I've actually bought the DVD
because I think it's only

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available on DVD.
OK.

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But yeah, I bought it was like 4
bucks or something, but I don't

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know.
And so like I watched it that

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year and then I watched it last
year and then I watched it but

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before that.
I think it's probably been

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goodness before, before the two
year prep for the podcast.

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I think it's probably been a
good, you know, 20 something

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years so.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I wish

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this is one that was on TV more
during the holidays.

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Like it's not one I really see
in the rotation.

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I'm like, why not?
Because it's it doesn't have to

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be edited.
I mean, there's nothing it's

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it's rated G.
It's very much family friendly.

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There's nothing they really have
to like, you know, anywhere for

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the 80s movie.
There's no cringe, you know, use

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how about cringe cringe worthy
moments in the 80s movie in this

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one doesn't have any.
I mean, this one really kind of

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and and it's kind of timeless in
the sense of there's nothing

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that really dates it that I can
say.

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Like it really, you know, it's
it seems like a really just a

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slice of life of, you know,
Three Oaks, Michigan, you know,

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like a farm, you know, small
town, farm town.

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So yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe your
social media might would have

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been a bigger part of it was
remade today.

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But I think it still works even
with like the newspaper article

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in the Newspaper Man or
whatever.

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So I let's talk about story
origin and pre production.

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So it originated entirely from
the imagination of screenwriter

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Greg Taylor, who wrote the
script as an original story.

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It was not based on sorry, it
was not based on an existing

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books or a true events.
Taylor infused a personal touch

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by naming the optimistic young
protagonist Jessica after his

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own 8 year old daughter.
The script found its way to

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director John Hancock and
producer Rafaela De Laurentiis,

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who was launching her own
production company and looking

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for a meaningful feature film to
produce with a modest budget

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under $7,000,000.
The production team, driven by

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Hancock's vision, prioritized
authenticity and sought A

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genuine Midwestern setting that
could capture the film's

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grounded, non sentimental
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After scouting locations in
Vermont and Canada, Hancock

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returned to his hometown area,
selecting the Port or La Porta,

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Indiana as the primary filming
site.

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The director utilized his own
boyhood home and food farm,

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which production designer
Chester Kaczynski transformed

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for the set, adding a shed,
stables, new landscaping and a

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cleared pond exterior.
Town Sings were filmed in nearby

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3 Oaks, Michigan.
Pre production also involved

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careful casting, bringing on
board actors like Sam Elliott

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and Corus Leachman.
A crucial casting decision

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involved the four legged star, a
real pregnant reindeer named

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Boo.
Boo was specifically chosen for

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the role of Prancer because
pregnant Doe's retain their

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antlers to the late winter
filming season, ensuring that

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Prancer looked the part
throughout the shoot.

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This meticulous planning
contributed to the touching,

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timeless story of faith and
family continues to resonate

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with audiences during the
holiday season.

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So yeah, there was, I was kind
of hard to find.

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There was like no pre production
information on Wikipedia, which

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is where normally where I pull
it from.

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But when I was going to kind of
scrounge some things together

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and put something together.
But yeah, just kind of like a

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like a simple nice movie.
That new movie studio was one to

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kind of get in the business with
a modest budget, and they were

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able to do that.
Yeah, I like that.

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It was just like totally
original, like not based off

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anything.
I mean, it's, it's just I've got

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clearly out of this guy's
imagination, so.

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Yeah, like it, you know, like I
said, an intro like we're the

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only reindeer that's really ever
gotten any notoriety is Rudolph.

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You know, so to like really
pull, you know, have a have a

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film or a story solely focused
on one of the regular reindeer

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that doesn't really get much,
you know, attention.

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It's kind of a nice touch.
Kind of gave it and, you know,

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made it makes it makes it more
unique for sure.

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So.
And and Rudolph is a newbie

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anyway.
He's not even one of the Ogs so.

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Right, right, right.
He was on the reindeer.

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Yeah.
I always jump into casting.

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Of course, we have to talk about
the great Sam Elliott as John

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Riggs, father of the our main
character.

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We've talked about Sam Elliott
and some of our other movies,

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but we'll talk about a little
bit here.

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Elliott began his career with
minor roles on screen, making

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his film debut in the western
The Way West in 1967.

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After his first leading film
role in the horror movie Frogs

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in 1972, he gained A wider
attention with his breakthrough

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role in the drama Lifeguard in
1976.

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He achieved commercial success
with his role in the biopic Mask

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in 85 and received Golden Globe
nominations for starring in Lula

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Moore's adaptation of Koniger in
1991 and the miniseries Buffalo

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Girls in 1995.
Throughout the 90s, he portrayed

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John Buford and historical drama
Virgil Earp in the Western

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Tombstone 93, which is one of me
and JB's favorites of all time.

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He was also in the miniseries
Rough Fighters in 97, and he was

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in the comedy The Big Lebowski
in 1998.

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So he's still working today.
You'd find him.

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I think he's on the new season
of Land Man on Paramount Plus,

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if you're into that show.
But yeah.

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But yeah, Sam Elliott, of
course, you know, unmistakable

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voice, unmistakable look.
Yeah.

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So.
You could hide a lot of you

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could smuggle a lot of things
with that mustache man.

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And very like, and this was kind
of like an intense movie, like a

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intense role for him.
Like typically the movies I've

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seen him in, like, you know,
Virgil and Tombstone and even

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like his character and mask are
much more kind of or even in

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Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze,
he's kind of the music portrays

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kind of more of a, you know,
laid back kind of, you know,

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cool dude kind of persona.
All right, so you were talking

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about Sam Elliott.
Like, you know, this is the he's

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kind of like angry the whole for
this whole movie, it seems like.

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Yeah, very intense.
Definitely out of out of his

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typecast for sure.
But more recently I watched the

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the show the Ranch when he when
it was on.

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Yeah.
And that was kind of that was

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kind of the angry like old man
Sam Elliott from from this too.

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But like, yeah, me, me, me.
And you kind of go way back with

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the Sam Elliott because that was
our first podcast together.

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With Tombstone, yeah.
For manly movies.

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Exactly.
So, but I've always really liked

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him and all the roles that he's
done from movies to TV and

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everything, but I haven't really
seen him like as the lead actor

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really anything.
I mean, but he's got some lead

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acting roles.
I just haven't seen him so.

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Yeah, they're kind of few and
far between, but he's, you know,

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really good and and the movies
he's in.

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So I'm moving to our our main
cast member that was kind of

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based around her playing Jessica
Riggs, Rebecca Harrell.

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At 18, she starred in a piece of
Eden in two in the year 2000,

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along with Time Daily, she guest
starred in shows such as third

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watch in 99.
In 2000, at age 20, she moved to

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New York from sorry, she moved
from New York to Los Angeles.

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She worked through with director
John Hancock and a suspense

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thriller called suspended
animation.

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Later that you later Nah, can't
talk today.

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Later that year, she filmed a
movie alongside John Ritter,

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which was shot in one day and
was completely improvised by the

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actors.
In 2007, she starred in another

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horror film, Sugar Creek, after
which she quit acting to

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pursuing her dream of
environmental activism,

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filmmaking and movie production.
So this was her first film role.

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You know, she was very new to
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And one little truly thing I
have it, the director had her

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run around for a while before
shots, so she would appear red

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faced and cold for certain
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I thought was pretty cool, but
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because it just came out
recently, but if you want to

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know more about Rebecca Harrell,
you can go check out the latest

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episode of Retro Life for you
with Chris Adams.

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He's been on the show several
times, friend of the podcast,

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but he had a chance to interview
her recently and learned a lot

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about her experiences filming
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her.
She does like environmental

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documentaries now, but I'm I
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whole episode before recording,
so I didn't get too much more

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out of it.
But very sweet.

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She was interviewed on another
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couple of years ago, and so I've
listened to that one.

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But she has great things to say
about say about Sam Elliott

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course Richmond, like all the
cast, like she learned a lot

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making the movie and she said
she was a lot like her

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character.
Like she was very much.

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She said she loves Christmas.
She loves like her favorite

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holiday.
So she's like, there's a lot of

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that character in her.
And so she she said she still

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kind of carries that character
with her even today.

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So it's kind of cool.
So go check that out.

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I'll check it out.
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Anything to add about her in the
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I mean, she carries the movie.
Well, I mean, I didn't, I don't.

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I mean probably one of the one
of the better child actors I've

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seen in a movie, especially to
lead a movie.

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So which is surprising why she
didn't do as much after this.

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Yeah, I mean, I agree.
Like she really like for

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somebody who's got like 7
credits to her name, like she

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really, really like carried this
film and like did a really good

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job.
Like so yeah, I mean, hats off

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to her.
I mean this, I don't know if it

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was her first one, but it means
she she was young.

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I think she said she was 8 when
she filmed this.

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And so now she has she has kids
that are 8.

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So she said it's weird if she
loves it, but it's also weird

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like having her kids watch a
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that they are now.
And So what do you think is, you

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know, pretty sweet?
Yeah, and obviously John Hancock

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liked her because half of her
critics he directed so.

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Yeah, Yep, she said.
She ended up doing like a lot of

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sci-fi and like horror movies,
which she finally realized was

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not the kind of movie she wanted
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why she kind of broke away from
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But all right, next to the list,
we got Cloris Leachman, who I

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mentioned earlier as Miss
McFarland.

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In film, she appeared in Pure.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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In film, she appeared in The
Last Picture Show in 1971.

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She was also, she was also part
of Mel Brooks's ensemble cast,

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playing Foul Blucher in Young
Frankenstein in 74, Nurse Diesel

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and High Anxiety in 77 and
Madame Defarge in History of the

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World Part 1 in 1981.
So close.

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Which means kind of like one of
those iconic actresses.

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I mean, she's been in a ton of
stuff, can't do her full

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filmography, but she was good in
this like that's I don't I can't

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say she was my favorite
character, but I loved her

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character in this movie.
Like just the, you know, the old

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lady that starts out, she has
the best character, one of the

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best character arcs.
You know, starts out as like the

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the mean old lady that all the
kids are scared of and then

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comes to be like befriends Jesse
and becomes like one of her

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biggest allies by the end, which
I thought was really cool.

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Sounds like something that from
a John Hughes movie that or the

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OR the OR the John Hughes sound
like the old man from Home

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Alone.
Oh yeah, yeah.

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Which came later, Which came
later.

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So.
Could have influenced it, yeah.

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Could have got, could have got
influence from this movie.

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So yeah.
Absolutely.

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Yeah, I'll, I'll love Cloris
Leachman.

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I think my first experience with
her was a Young Frankenstein.

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Yeah.
Yeah, which I I watched in a

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film lecture class in college.
I was, but yeah, she's she's I

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mean Bush and Sundance, whether
you said high, high anxiety as

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well.
Last picture show.

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Yeah.
And then apparently she was in

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the longest yard and I'm trying
to think of who she was at that.

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Been a while.
Yeah, I just watched that a

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couple months ago.
The the new one.

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I watched both of them.
Was she in the new one or the?

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Original.
She's in the new one.

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Oh, OK, then I don't remember.
It was obviously a very small

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role that she was, that she was
part of it.

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Was she the receptionist for the
wooden in the new one?

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Maybe.
Because I know Bernadette Peters

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was the was in the original.
Yeah, it might.

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It might have been her.
Yeah, they kind of flipped that

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character for the remake where
she was an older, older lady.

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I think that's right.
Yeah.

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Yeah, but yeah, we just talked
about her in our last episode

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because we were talking about
the Beverly Hillbillies movie

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that came out because of Jim
Varney playing she played granny

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in the barely hillbillies, a
movie.

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So that was no, we were talking
about last we did Ernest goat.

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We we cover Ernest Saves
Christmas which starred Jim

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Varney and one of his only other
like big movies he was in was

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the Beverly Hillbillies movie
that came out in the 90s like

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early said, like 92 or 93 I
think.

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Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it's 90s sometime.

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Yeah, maybe we'll get there
eventually.

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We'll move out of the 80s and
then the 90s.

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There's so many 80s movies to
cover.

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I know I may never finish.
I'm like I show every time.

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I every time.
I think I've done a lot of look

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at the list, like there's still
so many left to do.

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Hi, I'm moving on list.
We got Abe Vigoda as Doctor Oral

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Benton.
He made his first stage

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appearance at the age of 17 for
the majority of film goers.

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He's first came to prominence in
The Godfather 1972 as a double

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crossing to CEO Tessio.
He had roles in a few

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nondescript TV films for landing
the plum role of Sergeant Phil

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Fish in the sitcom Barney
Miller, which my dad was a big

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fan of in 75, his best known
role.

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He also he got his own short
lived spin off Fish that came

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out in 77 he made in the 90s and
beyond became busy again making

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appearances in North in 94, The
Misery Brothers in 95-A Brooklyn

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State of Mind in 98 and Crime
Spree in 2003.

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He continued acting into his
90s, surprising audiences with

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his entertaining style.
Yeah, I saw him in a bunch of

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comedies.
I think more so later in life.

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Like I know he was kind of more
of a serious actor earlier in

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his career, but I always
remember him being funny in the

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few like little small roles he
had in some later movies.

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But.
Yeah, I think with this one was

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kind of like one of the most
kind of gut wrenching moments of

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the movie was whenever she was
saying, you know, you of course

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you don't want to help because
you're a doctor.

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You're a liar.
Doctors never help anybody.

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I'm like if she was talking
about her mom, like, yeah.

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Oh gosh.
Yeah.

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Of course he had to do it then.
Yeah, this movie has some heavy,

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it's got some heavy moments,
which, you know, I think is what

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kind of makes it the classic
that it is and memorable for

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sure.
All right, moving out loud, we

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got, I'm going to mention this
with Tanya Alda as Aunt Sarah.

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I'm mentioning this because she
began her current late 60s.

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She went on to have supporting
parts in The Deer Hunter and 78,

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Rocky 2 and 79, and Mommy
Dearest in 81.

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She also appeared in the lead
role in the horror films

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Amyville 2 of The Possession and
Girls Night Out, both in 1982.

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So she has a pretty small role
and it wasn't a face that

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necessarily recognize, but I
knew the movie she'd been in,

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Deer Hunter Lucky 2, Mommy
Dearest, Amityville 2.

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So felt like she needed to be
mentioned here.

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And then this is the one that
got me.

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Jessica's friend Carol Weatherby
was played by Ariana Richards.

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I did not recognize the name,
but I kept looking at her face

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and be like, I've seen she's
she's in something older that I

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know she's been in.
I couldn't think of what it was,

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but we'll get there.
She made her acting debut on an

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episode of The Golden Girls in
87.

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Later that year, she made a big
screen bow in into the Homeland

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and made for cable release that
starred Powers Booth.

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She appeared as Mindy Stern good
in the first Tremors film and

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her prize troll in the second
sequel, Trimmers 2.

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Back to perfection that went
straight to video.

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What is she best known for?
She portrayed Lex Murphy in the

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first Jurassic Park movie.
She reprised the role briefly in

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the sequel The Lost World.
Jurassic Park.

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She's been featured in other
films such as Angus, where she

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played a high school cheerleader
and also appeared on television

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episodes of Empty Nest and Boy
Meets World.

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She had originally auditioned to
play Jessica, but director John

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Hancock had her cast as Carol
instead.

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So yeah, so she's from Jurassic
Park.

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That's where I knew her from.
Yeah, I was trying to figure it

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out too, and I never did go look
it up either.

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So, Jurassic Park man, of
course.

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Yeah, another one like great,
you know, child actor that I

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thought would have done more as
she grew up, but really didn't,

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didn't didn't do much after
that.

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And then probably the besides
Sam Elliott, probably the most

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well known actor on in the film
that has a very small part

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Johnny Galecki as Billy Quinn.
Of course we know him as Leonard

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Hofstadter on The Big Bang
Theory.

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He was also David Healy on
Roseanne and the Connors.

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He this was he did this movie
and National Lampoon's Christmas

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Vacation, both in 89.
He's also been in, I know you

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know what you did last summer in
1997, in time in 2011 and rings

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in 2017.
But yeah, good old Johnny

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Galecki looks, he looks much
younger in this than he does and

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Christmas Vacation.
But I think of course, this one

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was filmed in the winter the
year before and Christmas

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Vacation was filmed in the
summer.

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So this one he he aged a little
bit in like the six months

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between filming's of of this one
and Christmas Vacation, so.

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As kids do.
Yep, Yep.

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And then the last person I'll
mention just because I knew all

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the movies he was in, but I was
like, it took me a second to

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remember who he was.
Mark Rolston as Herb Dreyer,

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He's the the butcher.
Was he a butcher?

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I think that ends up buying
Prancer and put puts Prancer in

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the makes him makes Prancer part
of his marketing campaign.

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But he made his film debut as
Pfc Drake and Aliens in 86.

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Best known for supporting roles
in films like Lethal Weapon 2,

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Shawshank Redemption, Rush Hour,
The Departed, the Saw film

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series, and on TV he's played
Gordon Lyman on the shield.

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He was in turn Washington Spies,
and he's the voice of Lex Luthor

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on Young Justice from 2010 to
2022.

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So, but yeah, once I saw his
face, it's like, Oh yeah, I've

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seen that guy and a bunch of
stuff.

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Shawshank.
Shawshank.

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When I first saw it I was like,
oh, that's oh, that's the creepy

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dude from Shawshank.
Yeah, he tends, he tends to play

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a creepy, kind of a creepy
looking dude.

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So this one, he's not as creepy,
but yeah, All right.

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Anybody else from the cast that
you wanted to mention or

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anybody?
I'm Mr. Anything to add?

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I think you covered it.
Yeah, it's not a huge cast, so.

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Jesse Bradford was in Bring it
On, by the way.

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Well, there you go.
He played boy #1 in this movie.

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In this movie, yeah, yeah, there
are a couple of a couple of

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00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,120
groups.
Groups are there so.

445
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Yeah, but have you had a much
bigger role in Bring It On and.

446
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,360
I will.
It's time to talk about iconic

447
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:18,840
and favorite scenes.
So JB, when somebody says

448
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,440
Prancer, what's the first scene
that pops into your head?

449
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,280
I think really well when the
when the Prancer falls at the

450
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,240
beginning is pretty memorable.
But I, I think to me it's always

451
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:38,200
like whenever she's hanging in
the tree, like when she's fell

452
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,720
out of the tree and Prancer came
and savior like, you know,

453
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,760
busted out and said that's
that's to me.

454
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,680
There's the one, there's the one
moment that I think of, and so

455
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,320
it's his.
It's his friend who nursed him

456
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,720
back to hell, and he's coming to
her rescue.

457
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,280
Yeah, like I said, there's not a
lot of this.

458
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,920
I don't have a, you know, whole
lot of nostalgia for this one

459
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,760
because I saw it later.
But when I think of Prancer, I I

460
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,640
mainly think of like the ending
with her waiting to see, like,

461
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,360
where did he go, you know, did
he jump off the Cliff?

462
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,960
And just that moment of, you
know, with her and Sam Elliot

463
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,920
and then and it's like, it's
kind of like he's hoping that

464
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,680
he's starting to believe, like
maybe it is Prancer.

465
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,840
I need to see Prancer, you know,
fly away.

466
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,880
So that that that's what kind of
stands out to me.

467
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,280
But yeah, the tree scene is is
really good too.

468
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,800
So.
And I like the scene where I

469
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,360
kind of get into kind of
favorite scenes now, but I like

470
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:43,040
the scene when she's supposed to
be cleaning closely to his house

471
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,360
and she's looking for and she's
kind of decorated the room for

472
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,360
like Christmas and tried to
scare or whatever, but or

473
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,720
surprise her.
I like that.

474
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,440
I like that scene a lot, just
kind of building that

475
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,320
relationship.
And then when she doesn't want

476
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,200
to, when she starts to not
believe and then all the

477
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,000
townspeople come outside the
house and her like singing and

478
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,200
showing the support.
So lot of lot of feels moments

479
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,920
in this movie.
For sure.

480
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,920
So what favorite things do you
have?

481
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:24,120
Well, as far as feels go, I
really like it whenever the

482
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,240
brother who was just like a
total turd to her, the entire

483
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:35,440
movie ends up going with her to
try to best Prancer out.

484
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,400
I just thought that was real.
And when he told her, like, I

485
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560
may not understand you, but I
still love you.

486
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,800
Yeah.
And like, he, he goes to help.

487
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,560
Oh, no.
Right.

488
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:53,240
Yeah, that that's really good.
But I think the one that just

489
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,760
kind of sticks out to me that I
just I love it every single

490
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,000
time.
And it's at the very beginning,

491
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,640
whenever she she asked her dad,
are we poor?

492
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960
And he's like, no, we're not
poor.

493
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,800
We're just down on our luck.
And so are we going to starve?

494
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080
And he said, no, we're not going
to starve.

495
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960
We got apples.
You can have you can.

496
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480
You can eat applesauce.
And Apple.

497
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Pie and apple dumplings, and
he's just naming off all these

498
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160
apple things.
It's so funny.

499
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,600
And he's like, Nah, we're not
going to starve.

500
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,960
OK, we had apples.
Great scene.

501
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,080
Yeah.
Oh, and then the other scene

502
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,840
that I I love and it's just kind
of like it's such a kind of

503
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,720
light hearted but good when good
moment is when Prancer gets

504
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,480
loose.
But Sam Alley doesn't know and

505
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440
he's reading the paper and you
see Prancer in the back, you

506
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,320
know, and outside the window and
he's turning around, you know,

507
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,520
like just that's such a great
scene too, just like that that,

508
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,680
you know, you see it in the
background and he's oblivious to

509
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,920
what's going on around him.
And then while the townspeople

510
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:04,360
show up, he was like, you know,
has no idea why they're there.

511
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,360
But yeah, I love that scene as
well.

512
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Any other scenes you got?
I got to mention this.

513
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Like, it's kind of like a theme
that plays out throughout the

514
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,040
entire movie.
But the opening scene where it

515
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,840
starts off and she's in the
classroom and they're all

516
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,600
singing and she's singing like
really, really loud and

517
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,600
obnoxious.
And the teacher like tells her

518
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160
it's like, can you sing softer,
please?

519
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:47,600
But I just, I love it because
like, it's just like it fits

520
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,280
with her personality because
she's just so like intense and

521
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,120
like boisterous and like about
everything.

522
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,600
The fact that she's just singing
with every single fiber of her

523
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,080
being, like she's just, I'm, I'm
going to build this thing out

524
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560
because I love it.
And she and she loves singing.

525
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600
She loves Christmas and it's
like it's all, it's all about

526
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,720
what she loves.
And so, and it also reminds me

527
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,440
of which I can't say this
anymore because she's not as

528
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,200
into it as she used to.
But my daughter, she's she's

529
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,840
still inquire, but she doesn't
love it as much as she used to.

530
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,200
But couple years ago, I actually
wrote this down in my first sets

531
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,360
of notes from when I watched it
two years ago this year, because

532
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,360
apparently back then she was
still like this.

533
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,000
But she would always like
anytime she was, I would watch

534
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,520
her sing.
She's always had her mouth open

535
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,760
like huge, like just belting it
out.

536
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,080
And I was just like, yeah,
that's what I'm talking about.

537
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,600
Open that mouth up, get it out
there.

538
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360
Yeah.
And that, that, you know, not a

539
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,240
triggering moment, but I don't
know if you ever, if you had

540
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,240
ever had one of those choir
directors of you saying in choir

541
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960
where they would like single
out, like trying to find out

542
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,800
who's the person that's off key
or the one that's too loud, like

543
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,080
just this section.
OK, now just those four.

544
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,680
OK, now just those two, you
like, you're like, oh God, it's

545
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,720
coming to me.
So, so, but usually we would

546
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,520
sing softer because we didn't
want to get called out.

547
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,680
But she was like, she was
singing full, full, full voice,

548
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,480
all the gusto, no matter what.
So, but yeah, great, yeah, great

549
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,200
scene.
And then you hear that later,

550
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,840
like when they're, I think
there's another scene later

551
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640
where where they're singing and
you can hear her above everybody

552
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,280
else, which I thought was great.
Also, like, I really like that,

553
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,400
you know, last scene with her.
And I guess it's not the last

554
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,120
scene, but with her and Sam
Elliott, there's a really like

555
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,680
father daughter touching moment
where, yeah, he says, you know,

556
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,720
I can't tell you that things are
going to be all right.

557
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,960
We could lose this farm one day
and I could bear that.

558
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,880
But what I can't bear is what I
saw last night.

559
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
You know, the thought that that
you wouldn't be around.

560
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,040
I mean, that's throughout the
movie.

561
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,400
They talk about being poor and,
you know, I can't give you

562
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,720
anything for Christmas.
And he's and she's like, it's

563
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,400
OK, dad.
And he's like, no, it's not.

564
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,040
But like at the end you really
see that Like it's not about

565
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,840
what you can give your kid.
It's about being being with your

566
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,560
kid.
So.

567
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Yeah, so many good lessons.
Once again.

568
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Put this back on TV.
Put it back in the Christmas.

569
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Race.
Come on, like what a Christmas

570
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,160
movie man like.
I know.

571
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,560
I mean talk about Christmas, but
I mean die Hard's like one of my

572
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,600
all time favorite movies, but
it's this is like legit like

573
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,320
Christmas Eve, like all the the
Christmas spirit and everything.

574
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Like we'll talk about a
quintessential to Christmas

575
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,480
movie.
This is this is it, man.

576
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800
This is 1 like top five in that
category.

577
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,160
Like to me like so even it's a
wonderful life isn't really

578
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,840
about Christmas.
And I know that's like.

579
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,199
Sing, right.
Nice get.

580
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:10,159
Yeah.
My, yeah.

581
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:11,960
My friend Ron, like he doesn't
watch it at Christmas.

582
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,639
He watches it on New Year's Eve
because, like, it's a New Year's

583
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:15,840
Eve movie.
It's not a Christmas movie.

584
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,000
Kind of right.
So yeah.

585
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,760
Yep.
So we'll get that hashtag

586
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,280
running.
We'll be, we'll be, we'll be

587
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,679
trending in no time.
Make Prancer a Christmas movie

588
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:30,480
again.
Please.

589
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,120
All right, well, let's talk
about some scenes and let's talk

590
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,000
about some trivia and they make
us think of some other scenes.

591
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,120
Not a lot of trivia for this
movie either.

592
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,880
So but we talked about the the
scene where she I talked about

593
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,280
where she surprises chorus
Leachman by decorating her

594
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,360
house.
She makes a lot about you know,

595
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,520
you used to have the best lights
and you know you don't do it

596
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,040
anymore.
And so then she's then it shows

597
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,560
close with him down on in front
of the house and you've got this

598
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,920
little girl on top putting the
the lights on the rooftop.

599
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,920
So Rebecca Harrell was actually
hoisted up by a crane and

600
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,840
tethered strapped to it for the
rooftop scene.

601
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,560
The crane was around the other
side of the house out of sight.

602
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,840
So yeah, got to be safe in that
instance.

603
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,240
For sure.
Another thing, a mechanical deer

604
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,960
was used in certain scenes.
According to director John

605
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,280
Hancock, the mechanical deal was
used for shots showing the

606
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,320
deer's perspective.
The camera was mounted right to

607
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,000
the back of the deer head.
Camera view shows the deer

608
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,800
antler top of head and knows
that this way whatever direction

609
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,080
the mechanical deer was pointed,
you would see whatever was in

610
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,720
front of it.
So they're primarily used a live

611
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,040
deer, which I think it's they
picked that deer also because of

612
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:52,680
the report had with with the
with Rebecca, with the, you

613
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,480
know, the girl.
So which was which you could see

614
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,800
like there seem to be like a
chemistry between, you know, a

615
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,520
fondness of like the the
protectiveness even, you know,

616
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,720
whether it's just how they got
it shot or if it was actually

617
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,840
right there.
This feels believable, which is

618
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,920
which is important.
Yeah, for sure.

619
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,200
So yeah, I don't know if I want
to share this one or not.

620
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Well, let's, let's let's talk
about it.

621
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,480
So I'll ask you the question,
the ending.

622
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:32,640
Do you believe that it was
actually Prancer joining Santa's

623
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,240
sleigh, or was that just her
imagination?

624
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080
Oh yeah, it was.
Yeah, sure.

625
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,520
He's a true believer, folks.
True.

626
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,440
Believer.
I am.

627
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,840
I'm a believer.
Yeah, I think it was because

628
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,400
Santa's so we all know this.
Right, right.

629
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,800
So director John Hancock insists
that Prancer's fate should be

630
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,560
left open to interpretation, but
the studio wanted a more

631
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,000
definitive answer.
Originally, Hancock decided on

632
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,600
an elaborate special effects
effects sequence showing

633
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Prancer's journey to Santa's
sleigh, but was scrapped in

634
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,120
favor of more simplistic
animated sequence.

635
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,720
But Hancock claims that the shot
of Prancer rejoining Santa is

636
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,800
all in Jessica's mind.
But I think it was real.

637
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,720
I was.
I was watching, though.

638
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,160
This time it was like, does
because we should.

639
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,920
Do you hear the bells?
I was waiting for Sam Miller to

640
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
hear the bells, too.
Which he doesn't even say if he

641
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,480
does or not, but he kind of
think he does.

642
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,320
So it's like, yeah.
But he believes.

643
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,080
He believes.
So last little bit of trivia,

644
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,680
the 35 year celebration of the
Prancer movie called Prancer

645
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,040
Palooza was celebrated in 3X3
Oaks, Michigan and La Porta,

646
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,880
Indiana on December 14th, 2024
just last year.

647
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,480
This was a 2 day event to tour
the film locations and meet the

648
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,280
actors and director of the film.
The miniature town shown at the

649
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,640
end of the Prancer movie during
the end credits was on display

650
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,280
in the Heritage Hall in Three
Oaks.

651
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,840
I think they also had one of the
mechanical reindeer, the props

652
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,920
that they used.
So as a man, if we would have

653
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,080
done this movie back to two
years, three years ago, we would

654
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,080
have known this was coming.
We could have gone and then we

655
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,320
could have had a backup epic
episode to talk about Prancha

656
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,600
Palooza.
But maybe they'll do one for the

657
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,640
40th year anniversary in a few
years and we'll we'll meet up

658
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:25,960
there.
Oh.

659
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,880
Yeah, that'd be great.
Have you been to that area

660
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,160
before?
You've been to Michigan,

661
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,200
Indiana.
Like those areas ever.

662
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:36,360
I've never been there.
I'm out.

663
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,840
I've been to Indiana.
It's been a long, long time ago.

664
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,600
I've been like to that's yeah, I
haven't been to Michigan.

665
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,400
Hadn't really been in much of
the Midwest or like the

666
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Northeast.
So like.

667
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,880
Great Lakes area, yeah.
Yeah.

668
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,240
Yeah, I've been, you know, I've
been, my wife's from Chicago, so

669
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,600
we've been, we've been through
Indiana and we've been a little

670
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,080
bit in Michigan.
So, yeah, but more just seen it

671
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,400
from the Interstate, not so
much, you know, the the rural

672
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,400
parts.
It's hard to say rural areas

673
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,280
this movie shows.
So all right, let's talk Box

674
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,800
office pranks were opened on
November 17th, 1989 in American

675
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520
theaters.
It was a rough week and it's

676
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,440
opening weekend at place 7th at
the box office, behind other new

677
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,560
releases.
There were four other new

678
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,040
releases that week, All Dogs Go
to Heaven, which debuted at #5

679
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,080
Still Magnolias at #4, The
Little Mermaid at #3 and Eddie

680
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,960
Murphy Harlem Nights was #1.
But it did earn a domestic total

681
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,120
of $18 million with an estimated
budget of around 7 million.

682
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,800
So it made, it was a financial
success.

683
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,480
I mean, it made back its money,
so.

684
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,400
And really, I looked at the Box
Office Mojo.

685
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,720
I looked but it stayed at #7.
During Week 2 and actually had

686
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,600
an increase of ticket sales.
So people went and saw the first

687
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,760
week.
I think good word of mouth

688
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,360
helped it to have a good, you
know, second run and actually

689
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,240
stayed in the top 10 for a good
couple of weeks.

690
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:18,080
So it wasn't like quickly
forgotten about.

691
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,520
I've been wasn't as big of a hit
of courses were the ones, you

692
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,280
know, that came out that week.
But I think it did, it did good

693
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,040
for what it was.
So for $7 million budget to make

694
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,360
18,000,000, you did all right.
And you got to come out right

695
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,920
before Tango and gas too, man,
that's, that's tough.

696
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,880
The last 80s movie release.
The last 80s movie, yes.

697
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,400
Which we've also covered on both
of our podcasts, so.

698
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,360
That's correct.
Fine, it's time to take a look

699
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,200
at how well this 80s flick holds
up today.

700
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,840
It's to rewatch a billion
nostalgia meter, patent pending.

701
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,080
It's our realm measuring how
enjoyable movie is for repeat

702
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,360
viewings along with the waves
and nostalgia brings.

703
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,840
Here's how it works.
It's a one to 10 scale.

704
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,400
Any number between 1:00 and
10:00 will do.

705
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Here a few parameters to help
you decide.

706
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,480
At the bottom of the meter is a
number one that says, I saw it

707
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,440
once and that was enough.
In the middle is a is a 5.

708
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,800
It's a good rewatch every couple
of years and the highly coveted

709
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,080
at the top of the of the meter
and #10 which means it's highly

710
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,000
rewatchable and full of
nostalgia.

711
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,560
So JB, where does Prancer land
for you on the rewatch ability

712
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,400
and nostalgia meter?
Well, I have watched it for the

713
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,360
last three years every year on
purpose.

714
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,080
On purpose?
Yeah.

715
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,800
I mean, this is one that I could
probably have on rotation

716
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,040
between every couple of years.
Like, because I said, I mean,

717
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,160
it's like the quintessential
Christmas movie.

718
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,560
And so I guess I'm going to have
to go with 6/7.

719
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,400
No, no, no, no.
Not on this podcast.

720
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Gosh, so.
Six.

721
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,800
I'm sorry.
Everybody, this.

722
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,520
This was so good to have you,
JB, I'm sorry.

723
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,960
I would never have you on the
show again.

724
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,040
I'm just kidding.
Remember, I coached little kids.

725
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:14,960
Yeah, it's you can't get away
from it.

726
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,080
You can't get away from it no
matter how or you try.

727
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:23,920
It's hilarious though.
So quick one, is this 6 or 7?

728
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:32,520
OK, I just wanted to say that
I'll, I'll, I'll bump it up,

729
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,760
man, just because I, I'll just
love it.

730
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,680
And like I said, it is my first
movie theater experience.

731
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:47,040
So I'll say 7 because I mean,
it's like there's just so many

732
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,360
good wholesome moments in the
movie and the whole movie is

733
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,600
wholesome in and of itself.
So like you, you could watch

734
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,640
this with your kids, you can
watch it by yourself, like kids

735
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880
could watch it on their own.
Like it's just like it's for

736
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,600
everybody's.
We need we need more movies like

737
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,760
this in our lives so.
I love it, Yeah, yeah, Once

738
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,360
again, it's not going to high
rank.

739
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:16,320
It's not going to rank high for
me on nostalgia, but I do really

740
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,920
like it.
And I think, like I said, I

741
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,320
appreciated it more this time.
I can't go as high as a 7 just

742
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,120
because of the nostalgia factor
for me, but I will give it a

743
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
six.
I think 6 is good.

744
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,000
Like it is one that I'm going to
want to watch, like I said,

745
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,480
every couple of years.
So yeah, I'm, I'm happy with

746
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,680
that.
I, you know, think if, if I

747
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,880
would have saw it when I was
younger, I probably would

748
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,040
probably, it would probably be
one that I would want to watch

749
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,160
more regularly.
But.

750
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,000
But yeah, but like I said, I
appreciate it more for what it

751
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,920
is now, so.
For sure.

752
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,600
Awesome.
Well, thanks, JB.

753
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,240
Some.
Oh, no.

754
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:56,720
All right, so let us know when
you think Prancer should rank on

755
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,200
the rewatch ability nostalgia
meter.

756
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,120
You can send us an e-mail, let
us know on social media, or you

757
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,240
can leave us a comment right
here on YouTube if that's where

758
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,360
you're watching the podcast
today.

759
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:08,680
Well, thank you, JB, for
joining.

760
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,440
It only took us three years to
record this episode, but I'm

761
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,240
glad we finally got to do it.
It finally happened.

762
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Anything exciting going on in
your podcasting world?

763
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,040
We've got Arby's.
I'm going to ask you every time.

764
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,720
Is Manly movies coming back
2026?

765
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,360
I wish every time I every time I
think it's going to happen, it's

766
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,480
just like something else happens
in my life and it's just one of

767
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,200
these days, man, one of these
days.

768
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,840
So we'll see.
OK, well.

769
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,080
I don't.
Have some new episodes, yeah.

770
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,760
I don't have newly's but
optimism about it as I used to.

771
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,400
So like I'm just like, it'll
happen when it happens I guess.

772
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,680
Well, the old episodes are still
there.

773
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,560
You can always go back and
listen to those.

774
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,280
And it was a good it was a great
show.

775
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,120
It was a limited edition.
It was a it was a limited

776
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,600
series, so manly movies, the
limited series podcast.

777
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,840
So get, get get what you can
while you can.

778
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,000
My my goal was to hit 100.
So like I feel like I need to

779
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,920
like wrap that up at some point
and just.

780
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,320
At least get to 100.
Yeah.

781
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,440
Because you still got some that
you've recorded, haven't been

782
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,680
edited, you haven't released,
right?

783
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,400
I've got like 5 or 6.
Oh wow.

784
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,240
And I'm surprised those those
guest hosts haven't hit me up

785
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,160
the last couple of years.
So.

786
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,840
They might have forgotten about
it by now.

787
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,760
So I think I talked about this
movie with somebody.

788
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,000
I got to go find that, So, yeah.
All right tonight, well, we are

789
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,480
wrapping up 2025.
This is the last episode of the

790
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,960
year, so hopefully you'll be
back with us in 2026.

791
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,000
We're going to start off the
month of January.

792
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,120
It's going to be a comedy filled
January.

793
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,480
We're going to we're going to
tackle the parodies.

794
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Well 2 of parodies and 1 is
pretty close to being a parody.

795
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,400
So we'll get 3 episodes in
January.

796
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,960
So look forward to those are
going to do Airplane, Naked Gun

797
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,080
and Police Academy.
So I feel like we just need a

798
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,800
good laugh here to start the
year off in 2026.

799
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,280
So look for those episodes
coming out.

800
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,200
But if you enjoy this episode,
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801
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,880
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802
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803
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:29,320
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804
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,680
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805
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,000
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806
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,720
There are some Christmas designs
that did come out this year.

807
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,360
Might be too late to get them
before Christmas, but go ahead

808
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,520
and buy them.
You can wear them next year or

809
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,440
wear a Christmas T-shirt all
year round.

810
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Let them know your Christmas
spirit still lives.

811
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,160
Thanks again everybody for
tuning in.

812
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Thank you JB for being here.
I'm Tim Williams for the 80s

813
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,640
foot flashback podcast.
Merry Christmas and Happy

814
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,400
Holidays.