#151 - "Ernest Saves Christmas" (1988) with Laramy Wells & Robby Retro

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Whenever Christmas time comes
around and you see lists of the

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best holiday movies and even the
most underrated ones, you'll

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almost certainly never find this
80s flick on any of them.

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It really hasn't managed to
embed itself in Christmas pop

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culture like some other films
have, to be sure.

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And it's a real shame because
while this movie isn't high

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class theater, it can It's
considered a favorite Yuletide

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watch for kids of the 80s and
90s like us.

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So meet us at Orlando Children's
Museum with Santa's Magic Sack

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as Laramie Wells and I discuss
Ernest Saves Christmas from 1988

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on this episode of the 80s Flick
Flashback Podcast.

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Welcome in everybody to the 80s
Flick Flashback Podcast.

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I'm your host, Tim Williams to
help us figure out who's going

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to take over the mantle of Santa
Claus.

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I have a very qualified elf with
me tonight.

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He's the man who brings the
magic to the microphone every

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single week on Moving Panels
Podcast.

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If anyone can land Santa sleigh
on a roof without magic dust,

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it's him.
Welcome back, Laramie Wells.

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How you doing Laramie?
Let me tell you something, Vern.

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When it comes to Christmas, I
come armed with enthusiasm,

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questionable judgement, and a
whole lot of holiday spirit.

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Know what I mean?
Yes, exactly.

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And you know what?
I do know what you mean.

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Of course, we're talking about
Ernest Saves Christmas, probably

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one of the biggest pop culture
icons of the 80s and 90s, Ernest

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P Whirl, played by Jim Varney.
And we're going to talk a little

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bit about how he originated.
I remember seeing his

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commercials on TV.
Do you remember seeing his

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commercials?
Like, I honestly can't remember

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if I saw his commercials because
later when I looked back at it,

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like most of his commercials
were like local.

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And so I don't know how many of
his commercials I actually saw

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or, or if it was after the fact.
You know what I mean?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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You know what?
I.

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Mean, you know what I mean?
I think we're going to say that

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a lot on this one.
Yeah, I was thinking I like, I

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think I remember seeing the
commercials or like somebody

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telling us about the commercials
like being like not in the

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Atlanta area or like in a like a
different market and seeing them

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on TVI.
Have a like earnest like it's

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called the essential earnest, I
think DVD.

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Then.
Has yeah, has the commercials on

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it.
I remember seeing a VHS of that

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like when like before, I think
before the movies really

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started.
I think that that made its

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rounds in the video stores.
And we like it seemed like a

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good idea.
But then you watch like, you

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know, two hours, an hour of 32nd
commercials, it gets a little

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redundant.
It gets a little little little

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little dull.
All right, well, let's jump

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right in.
When did you see Ernest Saved

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Christmas for the first time?
I am pretty 90% confident I saw

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this one in theaters.
OK yeah I know I didn't see

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Ernest Goes to camp the first
one in theaters.

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I saw it you know when it came
out on VHS.

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But I am pretty confident that I
saw this one in theaters.

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I even when I was watch re
watching it to prepare for this,

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like I have a memory of seeing
this one in theaters now,

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whether it was I saw it when it
actually debuted or if I saw it

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maybe as like a special, you
know, thing a few years later

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because I was 7 when this movie
came out.

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So I my memory might be a little
skewed, but I'm pretty sure I

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saw this one in theater.
Yeah, I was wrecking my brain

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trying to remember.
It's like I think I saw it in

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theaters, but I don't remember.
Like I don't have as vivid a

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memory of seeing in the
theaters.

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I remember.
Like I have a vivid memory of

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seeing Ernest Goes to Jail,
which I know was like yes, in

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the 90s I I saw.
That one in.

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Theater.
And I know I'm.

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Scared stupid in theaters.
Yeah, but I was like Ernest Goes

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to Camp.
I think I saw on cable and this

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one, I think I might have seen
it at the theater, but it was

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probably like a dollar theater.
Like, I don't think I went like

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early to see it, but I, you
know, maybe if that's what I'm

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saying, I'm.
Pretty sure I saw it in

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theaters, just whether I was
seeing it when it debuted that

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that's the iffy.
Yeah.

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So how long has it been since
you rewatched it before

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rewatching it for the podcast?
Last Christmas?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I.

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Watched it this was my first
time watching it for this season

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but I I watched it last
Christmas so.

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Is it one that you watch every
year or try to watch every year?

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Try to yeah, I can't say I'm I'm
always successful at finding

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time to watch it.
It's not it's not one that the

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rest of my family kind of go, Oh
yeah, let's watch her and say

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it's Christmas.
It's it's more of a just a me

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thing.
They enjoy it like when I was

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watching it to prepare for this,
you know, my daughter was was

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watching and my younger
daughter, I don't think cared,

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but but my older daughter sat
there and watched it with me.

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So but yeah, no, this is 1.
I definitely try to to fit into

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my my Christmas viewing every
year.

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Yeah, yeah, I think I just
started re watching it a couple

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of years ago like I'm glad now
it's on Disney plus.

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So like it's easy to ease more
easily accessible because

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there's I don't there's not a
Blu-ray copy of this available.

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I think I was reading and I
think it's kind of hard to find

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on even on DVD probably.
Of.

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Course, I knew that already.
I wasn't going to ask, but I

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know I did watch it last year
and I think I watched it the

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year before that when I think a
couple years I started doing

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like a, you know, 30 day, like
your Christmas watch, you know,

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Christmas watch list 1 Christmas
movie every day for the month of

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December or up till Christmas.
I've added it.

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And so I've wanted because I
when I do that, I try to watch

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them.
And so it had been a long time,

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but before that it had been a
long time since I'd seen it,

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like a probably a good 20 or 30
years because.

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Wow.
This was like 88, so I was like

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in 6th grade.
So yeah, I was going into like

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middle school after this so.
But I still love like Winston.

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I saw Ernest goes to jail.
So I'm still a fan of Ernest,

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but I don't know if this was one
that I might have had this one

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on VHS, but I just, you know, I
don't remember it.

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It's not, I like it, but it's
not at the top of my like top 10

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or even top five, you know, top
five, oops, top five Christmas

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movies of the 80s that I've, you
know, that I typically watch

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every year, but.
Wow, just specifically of the

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80s?
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No, I would say like, well,
yeah, 'cause there's not that

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many.
I mean, there's nevermind off,

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off tangent, but yeah, of all
the Christmas movies I watched.

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But it was like 80s and 90s
because I think Home Alone kind

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of fits in that because it came
out in 90.

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But but yeah, well, let's talk
about Ernest.

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If you grew up in the 80s or
90s, you can probably hear the

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voice already, a rubber faced
guy in a denim vest getting way

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too close to the camera and
saying you know what I mean?

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That was Ernest P World, the
lovable but annoying neighbor

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played by the late, great actor
Jim Varney.

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What started as a local
marketing gimmick became a pop

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culture phenomenon.
Ernest was originally created by

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a Nashville ad agency in 1980 to
sell everything from local

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amusement parks to Coca-Cola and
Taco Johns.

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Never had a Taco Johns?
The formula was simple, cheap,

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and hilarious.
Filmed with a handheld camera at

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a producer's house, these ads
relied entirely on Varney's

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talent.
Eventually, Ernest got too big

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for commercials.
Because of exclusive contracts

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with local companies, he
couldn't do national ads for

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competing brands, so the
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This led to the Saturday morning
show Hey Vern, It's Ernest,

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which won Varney a Daytime Emmy
and a franchise of nine feature

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films.
While critics generally hated

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the movies, they were made on
shoestring budgets and made a

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fortune proving that while Vern,
I'd have found Ernest annoying,

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the rest of the world loved him.
So.

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So that's about him.
And like I said, I remember

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seeing the commercials, you
know, saying, know what I mean?

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And like, doing their
impersonations, like, with

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family.
Like, that was just.

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Yeah, that was just what we did.
Very common in our household.

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Yeah.
Trying to explain him to like my

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daughters.
I was like, he's, he's kind of

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like he was Larry the Cable Guy
before Larry the Cable Guy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see
that.

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That was the the best way.
But no, it was, it was the Hey

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Vern, it's Ernest television
show.

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That was my my introduction to
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And then, yeah, then found out
about Ernest Goes to camp and

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watched it.
And then, like I said, I'm

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pretty sure I saw the next three
in theaters I did not see.

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What is it?
Ernest goes to school.

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Yeah, yeah, there were some that
were direct to video.

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Well, no, that one was that one
was released in theaters.

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It was Ernest Goes, Ernest Goes
to the Army, Ernest Goes to

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Africa and Ernest, Right?
Well, no, Ernest Rides Again may

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have been in theaters.
Slam Dunk Ernest.

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That was the three that were
released to video.

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So yeah, Ernest Rides Again and
Ernest Goes to School were

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released in theaters.
I think limited release, but

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they were still released.
OK.

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I didn't see either one of them
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I just saw goes to jail saves.
Pretty sure I saw saves.

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I know I saw it in theaters.
Let's go back to that.

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And then scared stupid I I saw
all three of those in theaters.

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But yeah, huge earnest fan.
I I always just wanted a tan

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baseball cap if I could have
ever found a blue Jean vest.

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Exactly.
I was like the blue Jean vest

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was like I was always looking
for.

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So yeah, very, very basic.
But I mean, yeah, I mean, think

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about brain like in today I've
been I guess they had it back

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then.
You had like pop culture, like

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Max Hedrum became was a
commercial that became, you

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know, it crossed over into pop
culture, had its own TV show.

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I mean, I was a huge Max Hedrum
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But like, today, it would be
like, you know, Ernest would be,

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like, flow from the progressive
commercials, Like, it's just a

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character that they created and,
like, a brand gets behind.

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So, yeah.
So for this movie.

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The movie was originally based
on a script by writer Ed Turner

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about Santa Claus retiring.
Disney hired a director, Tom

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Eberhardt, to rewrite it into a
heartwarming Christmas dramedy

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about Santa and adults.
Eberhardt spent three weeks

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writing a script that Disney
executives absolutely loved, but

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then the studio dropped a bomb.
They said we love the script,

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but we're going to set in
Orlando and turn it into an

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earnest movie.
Eberhardt was so unhappy about

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this, his serious Christmas
story being the turn into a

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vehicle for the rubber faced Jim
Varney, that he took his name

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off the movie and went
uncredited.

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So hey, you win some, you lose
some.

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But the film does hold a special
place in theme park history.

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It was the first major feature
film shot almost entirely at the

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then unfinished Disney MGM
Studios, which is now a

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Hollywood Studios in Orlando.
Verne's house it was.

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If it looks familiar to tourists
is because it was a set on the

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famous Studio Back lot tour but
was demolished in 2002.

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The horror movie scene, the
scene where Ernest watches the

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watches the scary movie
Christmas sleigh was filmed at a

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local Fox affiliate station in
Lake Mary because they already

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had a promo deal with Jim
Varney.

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So I mean, you use those
connections.

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So aside from the studio, the
production crew turn the entire

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city of Orlando onto their set.
If you know the city, you might

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spot these landmarks.
Orlando International Airport,

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Lake Eola and downtown including
Church Street station and Orange

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Ave. the Children's Museum,
which was actually the original

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Orlando Science Center, now the
Shakespeare Center.

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And then the toll booth was
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Expressway, now the beach line.
So we were going to have another

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Co host with us, but
unfortunately he couldn't make

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it for this episode.
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minutes from where he lives in
Orlando.

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So here's Robbie Retro with his
memories of Ernest Saves

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Christmas.
Hello from Robbie Retro and

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thank you Tim for having me on
the show.

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Ernest Saves Christmas is a very
special movie to me.

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My dad took me to see Ernest
Goes to Camp after church on a

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Sunday.
It was the opening weekend.

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That was a big weekend.
In 1987 May he had Beverly Hills

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Cop 2, Ernest Goes to Camp both
playing that weekend and Ernest

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Goes to Camp.
I still remember a packed

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theater and just loving it.
So I was already huge Ernest fan

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from Ernest Goes to Camp and of
course the commercials going

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into Ernest Saves Christmas.
There was there was hype.

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I mean I was excited for it when
I saw the ads for Ernest Saves

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Christmas in 1988.
I couldn't wait to see it.

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Matter of fact, it was my top
movie to see that November,

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December 1988.
I wanted to see it more than

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Scrooged because I had an option
to go see Scrooge to Earnest

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Saves Christmas.
I had to go see Earnest Saves

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Christmas and that was a great
that was a great time for movies

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as a kid in 1988, November,
December, you had land before

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time and I think you had Oliver
and company and of course, what

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the big one for me was Earnest
Saves Christmas.

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I love the movie.
I love it to this day.

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I love that the movie continues
to just get get loved more and

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more each year.
It seems like the stock

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continues to go up each year has
a the following continues to get

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bigger and bigger for it.
It was filmed in Orlando and I'm

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I'm from Central Florida, so I
know all those locations very

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well and I remember thinking I
got to go check out these

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filming locations.
Several of my friends that are

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Youtubers have done it.
Adam did a great video on all

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the Earnest Saves Christmas
locations, so check that out.

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And a lot of them are still
there today, except the

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Children's Museum is a little
different now.

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But thanks for letting me talk
about Ernest Saves Christmas.

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It's one of my favorite
Christmas movies.

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And of course, I love Jim
Varney.

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I love Ernest and I love that
the film continues to get bigger

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and bigger each year.
Anything from the pre production

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that you want to talk about
before you jump into casting?

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No, no, I, I I'm somewhat
familiar with a couple of the,

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the locations, but but yeah, I,
I wouldn't be as as

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knowledgeable of, of any of the
pre production.

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It was an artist movie.
That was all I heard.

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About and I think even at that,
in that point of my life, I

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don't think I'd, I'd even been
to Orlando yet.

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So I wouldn't have, you know, I
mean, I knew where Orlando was.

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It was in Florida, but I didn't
know that much about it.

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So yeah.
I've seen it on the map.

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Yeah, it's on the water, right?
Nope.

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All right, let's talk about the
cast.

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Of course, Jim Varney we
mentioned before.

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He also played Jed Clampett in
the film adaptation of The

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Beverly Hillbillies in 1993.
Also covered a song for the film

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titled Hot Rod Lincoln.
He voiced A slinky dog in the

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first two films of the Toy Story
franchise.

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Fortunately or sadly, he died of
lung cancer on February 10th,

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2000, leaving 2 posthumorous
releases, Daddy and Them, as

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well as Atlantis The Lost
Empire.

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But yeah, I was very sad when I
heard he passed away.

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It was very, very sad.
Same same again.

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He you take him, Paul Reubens,
Peewee Herman, honestly, Mr. T

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and I mean, those were those
were my 3 like characters

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growing up as a kid that like
they were real life, quote UN

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quote superheroes for me.
So.

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So yeah, finding out that he he
had passed away.

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And then of course, just a few
years ago when Paul Reubens

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passed away, yeah, no, that,
that definitely hit me.

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But yeah, love the character and
loved him.

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I mean, I really wish he did
more.

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Yeah, Like he he's great.
And Beverly Hillbillies, you

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know, and of course, you know,
there's a voice actor, but I

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would have loved to have seen
him do more.

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And the fact that to find out
that he was like a trained, like

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Shakespearean actor, right?
I would have loved to have seen

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what else he could have done.
Yeah, I think what I love about,

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you know, I kind of forget until
I rewatched the movie, the

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different characters he plays
even in the movie, like the

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disguises in the, you know, and
if you ever saw it was really

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weird.
It was like Doctor Otto.

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Yes, that that I remember.
I remember, I remember I

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remember renting that video many
times.

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Yeah.
With a hand on the head.

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Yeah.
And being like kind of like I

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thought it was going to be like
more like Ernest, but it you

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know, Ernest P Worrell.
But it wasn't.

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It was all these other different
characters that he was playing.

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It was more of a spent.
It was like a spoof of like

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science fiction stuff, but he
played all these different

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characters.
And so.

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But even in this one, pretty.
Sure, that's on Tubi.

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Oh, is it?
I think, yeah, I think I have

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seen that on Tubi or like
Fandango at Home Free, the free

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movies I have on.
There.

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What's the other one?
Whichever one of those is where

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they have to cut to a
commercial, break randomly into

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a movie, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's where you can watch it.

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In the middle of a sentence,
yeah, wherever fits.

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But yeah, but like seeing him
play those other characters, I'm

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like, man, I would have loved to
have seen him really break out

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and and like some of these other
characters, like have their own,

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you know, their own franchise as
well.

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But I think Ernest just was
just, that's what they wanted

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him to be.
Just, you know, he was earnest.

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So but but yeah, I would have
loved to have seen him do more.

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But I was, I was glad when the
Beverly Hillbillies came out And

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I've I would say he was kind of
a draw of why I wanted to see

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the movie.
Like, you know, seeing a movie

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based on the old TV show that I
love because we love watching

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the reruns of the Beverly
Hillbillies.

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But knowing he was playing Jed
Clamp and I was like, that's

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smart.
I, I I can go for that.

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Cloris Leachman and Dabney
Coleman.

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Yeah.
Diedrich Bader.

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Like, Oh yeah, that was a great
casted movie.

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I got to find that one.
It's hard to find now to to

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stream.
I own it.

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You own it.
I know, I know, I know.

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All right, moving on.
All right, so let's talk about

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Santa Claus himself.
Douglas Seal.

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Seal provided the voice of Krebs
the Koala and the Rescuers Down

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Under in 1990, and two years
later he was the Sultan in in

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Aladdin from 1992.
He also appeared in several

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films including Amadeus in 84
and the 1986 Christmas film A

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Smoky Mountain Christmas.
Seal had a small starring role

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also as Santa in Steven
Spielberg's Amazing Stories.

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In 1987 he appeared in the
Cheers episode A House Is Not a

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Home and in 1989 in the Family
Ties episode Get Me to the

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Living Room on Time.
And actually in the Cheers

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episode, I think his wife in
that episode is Bird, who has a

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role in this in this as well.
So.

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I always remember her from
police Academy.

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Yes, yes.
We'll get to her in just a

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moment or two, but yeah.
But doesn't feel like I didn't

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see that that trivia about him
being the voice of the Sultan

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and Aladdin until after I
watched.

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The movie, I did know that.
Yeah, and I was and I was like,

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man, that's why his voice was
like, it's like it I was like,

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it's so familiar.
And I was like, maybe because

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I've seen this movie so many
times.

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But then when I read it, I was
like, that's why I know that

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voice.
So.

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But he was so good.
I mean, we've we've covered

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Santa Claus the movie and you
know, I think for those one in

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the 80s, he that was our Santa
Claus.

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But I would say he is a close
second of light.

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Probably one of my favorite
incarnations of Santa Claus from

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the 80s.
You get.

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From the 80s.
I would be with you, yeah.

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I'd say Tim Allen's.
Tim Allen.

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Yeah, Tim Allen's going to win
the 90s hands.

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Down Tim Allen's going to win
that for me.

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Of all time.
Of all time, yeah, I would.

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Yeah, no, if you're just going
with the 80s, yeah, he'll, he'll

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be second place in the 80s, I'll
give you that.

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Yeah.
And it was just, it's just a

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great role.
I mean, he and he played it so

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well.
You know, we talked about the

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budget.
The budget is small, but the

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acting is good.
Like, I don't, I didn't really

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have any, any like negative
things to say about anybody.

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You know, someone's a little
over the top, but that's kind of

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what the movie is.
For yeah it it works for what

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did the movie is.
Yeah, yeah.

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But but I think he was well cast
to kind of be the straight man

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and for everybody.
You feel like everybody around

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him was a little outside the
box.

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And you know, the quote UN quote
fictional character of Santa

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Claus is the one that's the most
human of everybody.

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So the most least cartoon like.
Most grounded character.

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Yeah, exactly.
Then you've got Oliver Clark as

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Joe Carruthers.
Clark made numerous appearances

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in film and television, and
particularly in the 70s.

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Two of his best known TV
characters were John Doe Number

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Six on the NBC drama series St.
Elsewhere, A likable and it's

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humorous psychiatric patient.
He was also Mr. Heard, a patient

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of psychologist Bob Hartley on
The Bob Muhart Show.

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He played Mr. Belding in the
original pilot of the series

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Good Morning, Miss Bliss, but
was subsequently replaced by

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Dennis Haskins.
So yeah.

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He was replaced by Mr. Belding.
He yeah, the the Mr. Belding.

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Yeah, so and I liked him as
well.

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Like I think his, his character
was good.

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I kind of think early on that
it's going to be handed over to

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Ernest, but I'm kind of glad
that it's not.

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I'm glad that.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Yeah, Ernest was more like the

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catalyst to make the right make
the right choice happen.

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And I was glad that, you know, I
kind of feel like if it have

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been remade or written a
different way, they would have

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made him to be like, oh, he's
this way in front of the kids

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and on TV, but he's more like
his agent of like, just in it

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for the money and like.
Found out that he was a bad guy,

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yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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So I like to think kept him.
Earned.

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I think the problem with doing
that, though, is that then it

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would be, it would put fault on
Santa Claus, on Nick, yeah.

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That's true.
Because.

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Because he's he's coming there
specifically for him.

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He's done his research.
You know, he pretty much says,

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says to him, you are the one
like there, there is nobody

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else.
So if if they had done that

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twist it would have reflected
bad on Santa.

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Claus.
So yeah, very true.

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So yeah, I'm glad they didn't do
that.

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But I also, yeah, did not want
it to be earnest.

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Glad it's not earnest.
Has to stay earnest.

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Like, yeah, I can't.
I mean, that would completely

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ruined any more earnest movies
because how do you do another

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earnest movie if he just became
Santa Claus, right?

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And this right.
So any other character they

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definitely would have done it
though.

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Right, right, all right then we
got Noel Parker Noel, like nice

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Christmas name.
That's because she was born on

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December 25th, so that was her
actual birthday.

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So she also portrayed the title
character in 1992 TV movie Amy

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Fisher, My story.
She was also nominated.

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Wow, for a daytime.
You know, we're trying to

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00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,160
change.
Well, wait, we'll get there.

448
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,200
She was also nominated for a
Daytime Emmy in 1993 for a

449
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,920
performance on the CBS school
break special Different worlds,

450
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,840
a story of interracial love.
So she liked being in the, at

451
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,840
that time Contra very
controversial stories.

452
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,240
John Cherry, the director who
directed all of the Earnest

453
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,640
movies.
I was also I think one of the

454
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,120
directors of the commercials as
well.

455
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,640
He had to assign someone to keep
16 year old Noel Parker away

456
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,160
from the adult male crew members
as she was being a bit too quote

457
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,920
UN quote friendly with them.
No, thank you.

458
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,560
Right, exactly.
I can see now why she didn't do

459
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,520
a whole lot after this.
You know, besides her TV movie.

460
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,960
The little fitting that she
played Amy Fisher then, yeah.

461
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,520
All right, so moving along, I
wasn't going to stay long on

462
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,920
that one.
Lord Sartan.

463
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,560
I hope it's that night as Chuck,
Known for his recurring role in

464
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,840
the TV show Hee Haw, he also
appeared in more than 40 motion

465
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,440
pictures, most notably as the
Big Bopper in The Buddy Holly

466
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440
Story for Ray Stuckey and
Mississippi Burning.

467
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,440
He was also in The Outsiders,
The Hollywood Nights, Fried

468
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,320
Green Tomatoes, The
Replacements.

469
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,840
One of my favorites has
offensive assistant coach Leo

470
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,160
Pelichowski, the Big Easy, the
Grifters, getting easy with Dad,

471
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,440
the Patriot and an uncredited
role in the 1994 comedy Wagon Z

472
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,200
starring John Candy and Richard
Lewis.

473
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,560
So I would that's a that's a
definitely a that guy.

474
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280
I would not be able to say his
to pull his name out of a hat in

475
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,560
the trivia tonight.
Hopefully I said like Gaylord

476
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,000
Sarton.
So but yeah, I remember him from

477
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
Hee Haw.
We were big Hee Haw watchers in

478
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000
my house.
I remember from the Earnest

479
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,960
movies.
Yeah, so Bobby was played by

480
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Bill Burge and Bill, this is
pretty much all that Bill Burge

481
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,880
did, but I have this kind of
link together with them.

482
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,760
This is the first of only two
earnest movies to feature the

483
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,800
Chuck and Bobby duo, the other
being the next Ernest movie,

484
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,640
Ernest Goes to Jail, in 1990.
Chuck and Bobby came from a

485
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,800
series of regional commercials
also titled Me and My Brother

486
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,920
Bobby, which started in 1986 and
was created by the same ad

487
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,800
agency responsible for Ernest
Pete Worrell.

488
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,400
The basic premise was Chuck and
Bobby were twin brothers who

489
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,400
didn't look anything alike.
The shtick was Chuck would

490
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,000
endorse a certain product and in
some cases would incompetently

491
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800
perform a task in the process,
while his twin brother Bobby

492
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320
would mostly just not in
agreement to whatever Chuck's

493
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,800
general thoughts were on the
subject.

494
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,600
So it's kind of like the Penn
and Teller, you know, J and

495
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,360
Silent Bob, where you got the
silent character and the other

496
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,560
one.
So but they are a fun addition

497
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,560
to this movie Like but they're a
good Side Story to have.

498
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,360
Like I thought it was smart to
have them as like the the

499
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:08,200
airport workers that get the
reindeer and trying to read the

500
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800
the label sideways with their
heads side to side.

501
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,240
VMVM.
It's V, it's an M.

502
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000
So I enjoyed that.
What are your thoughts on Chuck

503
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,120
and Bobby?
I'd love.

504
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:26,680
Them great, I mean, I would have
loved to have seen them get

505
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,600
their own them kind of break out
and yeah, yeah, get their own

506
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,960
thing or do their own thing.
Surprising to me that they were

507
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,840
only in two together.
Yeah, I guess it was a different

508
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,840
guy 'cause I know that Gaylord
played the chef and Ernest goes

509
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:47,280
to camp and I thought that Bobby
was was there cooking with him.

510
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,000
But I guess that was a different
character when you said that.

511
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,360
But yeah, no.
Love them.

512
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,880
And of course his, you know,
famous thing with his eyes.

513
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:57,600
Eyes.
Yeah.

514
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,520
And the screeching, The
screeching sound, yeah.

515
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,960
Yeah, the, like squealing pig.
And he just passed away earlier

516
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,720
this year.
Yeah, yeah.

517
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,400
But no, love them.
Love, love that they're they

518
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,320
kind of were just a like it was
almost as if they were a part of

519
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,480
the Earnest Bundle.
Like you knew if you got an

520
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,320
earnest movie you would get
them.

521
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,640
Right, right.
Which again, is weird to say

522
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,000
because the he even Gaylord I
think, is only in three of them.

523
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Yeah.
But I think they were on the,

524
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,360
they were on the TV show as
well.

525
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,400
I don't think I put that in the
notes, but I think they were,

526
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,400
yeah, on the show, the TV shows.
That's probably why you've been

527
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,920
the case.
That's probably why you you want

528
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,160
to link them together even more
so probably more from the TV

529
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,840
show than from.
I will tell you I got to go back

530
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,560
and watch The Patriot to find
out who he was in The Patriot.

531
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Yeah, that it didn't give me an
oh, I remember he's or am I

532
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,760
thinking of a different guy?
Well, I got to think about which

533
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Patriot, because there's the Mel
Gibson, the Patriot and there's

534
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,920
the Steven Seagal, the Patriots.
So it didn't.

535
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,160
I didn't Click to see which one
it was, so.

536
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,960
That's true.
That may be why I don't, because

537
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,560
I don't think I've ever seen the
Steven Seagal 1.

538
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,960
I know I haven't.
But no, I I knew him from the

539
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,400
others.
Like I I remembered him in

540
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,800
replacements.
I remembered him and, and fried

541
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,680
green tomatoes.
He's got actually a pretty big

542
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,400
part if I remember fried green
tomatoes.

543
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Yeah, very versatile.
Great in comedy, but she's.

544
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,080
Again, what I would have liked
to have seen Jim Varney.

545
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,520
Yeah, yeah, a little bit more.
You know, some more serious

546
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,320
movies.
So we talked about Billy Bird

547
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,200
earlier.
We'll bring her back up as Mary

548
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Morrissey Bird always often cast
by director John Hughes and

549
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,680
appeared in many of his 1980 and
1990s films such as 16 Candles,

550
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,240
Home Alone, and Dennis the
Menace.

551
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,240
The latter 2 of both paired her
with veteran Hughes actor Bill

552
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Irwin playing her husband.
She also starred as Missus Lois

553
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Feldman and Police Academy 4.
As they were mentioned, her last

554
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,640
film appearance was in 1995's
Jury Duty with Pauly Shore,

555
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120
which I just rewatched a couple
months ago.

556
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,840
Every once in a while, I just
want to watch a Pauly Shore

557
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400
movie.
Don't ask me why, just it's like

558
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,080
a he was the Adam Sandler of my
of my youth.

559
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,760
So yeah, Encino me and.
Yeah, Encino man biodome is

560
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,760
probably.
Biodome.

561
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,360
Yeah, Biodome is not at the top
of my list, but yeah.

562
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,200
Son-in-law was good, but for
some reason I never remember

563
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,040
that one.
Yeah, yeah.

564
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,960
Son-in-law is a Thanksgiving
movie because that's when he

565
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,720
went, He went home with her for
her Thanksgiving break, so.

566
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Yeah.
And then yeah, in the in the

567
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,560
Army.
Now I can tell you I saw that

568
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,920
one in theaters.
I saw jury duty in theaters.

569
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,760
I saw Encino man, I saw
son-in-law in theaters.

570
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,360
I didn't see Biodome in
theaters.

571
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,320
I don't think I saw in the Army
now in theaters, but yeah, yeah.

572
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,680
So so I can couple of them.
Yeah.

573
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,120
So Bert also made numerous
appearances on various TV shows,

574
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,760
including roles on Happy Days,
Silver Spoons 8 Is Enough, The

575
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,680
Facts of Life, Who Is The Boss,
and Knots Landing.

576
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320
She's another one of those that
when you see her, you just go.

577
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,880
I know I would have.
I know I've seen you in

578
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,720
something, I'm just not sure
what.

579
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,520
And when I saw her name, Billy
Bird, I was like, I know that

580
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,400
name, but I wouldn't.
Like, I don't know if I'd be

581
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,280
able to put the face with the
name before.

582
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,600
Good.
Doing the research now.

583
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,160
But yeah, one full fun fact I
had to put in here.

584
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720
She entertained troops in
Vietnam, where their own variety

585
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,000
act, flying high with Billy
Bird.

586
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,480
For her efforts, she was one of
the few women to ever be made an

587
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920
honorary member of the Green
Berets.

588
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,440
So I.
Think that was awesome, Had to

589
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320
put that in there.
No, if I just saw the name Billy

590
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Bird, I would have confused her
with Brad Bird from Pixar.

591
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,760
I could see that.
And then last one we'll mention

592
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,440
here and I'm sure you'll
recognize immediately Robert

593
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,800
Leser as Marty, best known for
the opening scene, and Bruce

594
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,120
Willis's Die Hard as Laramie is
wearing the 80s flick flashback

595
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,560
inspired original T-shirt.
Die Hard is my favorite

596
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,160
Christmas movie T-shirt.
So thank you for supporting the

597
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,320
podcast.
So yeah, so he was the guy on

598
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,760
the plane with Bruce Willis to
tell him about making fist with

599
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,560
your toes, fist with your toes.
He was also in the big easy

600
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,600
Oscar with self Sylvester
Stallone shoot to kill with

601
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,400
Sidney Poitier, the Presidio
starring Sean Countery and a

602
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,120
Japanese film called Best wishes
for tomorrow.

603
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,480
So, but yeah, he.
Was in Die Hard.

604
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880
He was in Die Hard.
That's what I that's what I knew

605
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,040
him from.
Yeah.

606
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720
So all right.
Anybody else from the cast?

607
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,800
Mr. Santos.
I'm sorry.

608
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,760
Mr. Santos?
Yeah, His real name is Santos.

609
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Santos.
Yeah, yeah.

610
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,000
What was that?
I like when he when he parks the

611
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,480
car and he throws his keys to
the mailman, it's like, yeah,

612
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,400
but be sure to park in the shade
for me, OK, Spot sport or

613
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,320
whatever he says like some
parking in the shade.

614
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,040
All right, anybody else in the
cast that failed to mention or

615
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,000
worth mentioning?
I think I.

616
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Covered the I think the main
characters.

617
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,160
The main ones, I can't even
think of anybody who had like a

618
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,480
bit part that would be like, oh,
hey, look, give us that guy.

619
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,040
But I can't think of anybody
like even the, the guy you're

620
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:17,360
talking about, this guy from Die
Hard, Even the the the gentleman

621
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,880
that Santa Claus gets off the
plane with.

622
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
I was like, I don't know you.
This is what I know you from.

623
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,880
I don't know you.
From anything else, the one that

624
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,960
the wish for snow in Orlando on
Christmas?

625
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,600
Yeah, good pay off scene though
for him to say at the beginning

626
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120
and then you see him in it on
his on his work phone.

627
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,800
I don't care what you have to
do, make it work.

628
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,840
And then it's out the window.
It's snowing.

629
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,640
You know what?
Merry Christmas.

630
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,240
Yeah, we had a a little
Christmas Carol moment right

631
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,680
there.
It's Scrooge realizing the mini

632
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,680
grade.
Yeah, 'cause even the elves,

633
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,040
like they weren't the more
recognizable, like little people

634
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,360
that you used to see in the in
the movies in the 80s and all.

635
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,160
So I didn't didn't really I know
the two of them from this.

636
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,000
Yeah, yeah, don't.
Know.

637
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Anything else they were, they
didn't have much of A

638
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,760
filmography besides this, so it
wasn't much to to go into.

639
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,760
All right, let's talk about
iconic and favorite scenes.

640
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,320
So someone says to you, Ernest
saves Christmas.

641
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,840
What's the first thing that pops
in your head?

642
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Air breaks?
Yeah, that was going to be mine.

643
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,560
Yeah, no, I ruined a little
laugh.

644
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,520
I remember that from the
trailer.

645
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Yes, yeah, exactly.
Like that was one of the things

646
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,159
that hooked me.
And then it's one of the reasons

647
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,560
I remember singing in theaters,
because I remember when that

648
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,520
moment came and it is just
earnest, big screen earnest.

649
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120
And he turns and looks at the
camera air.

650
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Brakes.
Yeah, and then that, that that's

651
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,719
it that one.
I mean, there's there's several

652
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,080
others when you get me to
actually, you know, talking and

653
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,480
thinking about it.
You know, I I love the the

654
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,880
character actor that is his
passenger at the beginning and

655
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680
he just freezes from terror like
that.

656
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,400
That's always one.
Yeah.

657
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,240
So there's several that that
stick with me once I start

658
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,720
thinking about it.
But right off the bat, it's it's

659
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,560
air brakes.
Yeah, Air brakes was mine, so we

660
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,920
both had the same iconic scene.
All right, so let's jump into

661
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,960
favorite scenes.
We got some favorite scenes.

662
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,840
Yeah, so I just like the
introduction to Ernest, you

663
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,360
know, his oh, Christmas tree,
oh, Christmas tree, Christmas

664
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,640
tree, oh Christmas tree.
And even when he gets the tree

665
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,720
and he, you know, he, I love
these backing up.

666
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:36,600
I can remember the exact words.
He's like, notice how I am using

667
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,400
proper technique to, you know,
smell those Christmas, Christmas

668
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,360
trees.
You can keep your, your channel

669
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,520
#5 just give me a whiff of the
old lonesome pine.

670
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,800
I love, love those moments.
And, and you know, you already

671
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,440
talked about some of the
characters, like when he plays

672
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,200
the old woman.
Yeah, she's one of my favorites.

673
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,360
Yeah, that's great with that.
I love how he all of a sudden

674
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,720
gets gets the girl involved in
that very.

675
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,360
First one when?
She's the the niece.

676
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,000
And if they, they play off that
so well.

677
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,800
And yeah, there's so many.
I mean, when Santa's in prison

678
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,160
and he gets all of them singing
12 Days of Christmas, like, and

679
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,360
you see all the hands coming up,
Yeah, there's so many, There's

680
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
so many.
The, the animal control.

681
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,920
And he points up and they look,
oh, yeah, flying reindeer that

682
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,920
that's not us.
That's.

683
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,400
Yeah, you need air traffic
control.

684
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,520
Right, right.
Yeah, Yeah, I had.

685
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,840
So, yeah, the all the scenes
where he just like starts to wax

686
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,720
poetic, I guess you would say.
So where he just like has his

687
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,440
own little like minor dog.
But I had the 1 you started.

688
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,680
I had, I had written out.
So it was, aw, smell those

689
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Christmas trees.
You can keep your Chanel #5 Just

690
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,520
give me a whiff of the old
lonesome pine, that symbol of

691
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,920
Bradley love, that centerpiece
that all mankind gathers around

692
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,080
to share the cranberry sauce
shaped like a can.

693
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,720
It is just like, you know, the.
Greatest cranberry sauce?

694
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:11,440
Yeah, give me that.
But I love cranberry sauce and

695
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,680
have real cranberries, and it's
got to have the the edges from

696
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,280
the can.
Yeah, so.

697
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,880
But yeah, so, so I loved all
those moments.

698
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,680
The other one is when he's
destroying Vern's house.

699
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,800
Like that just cracks me up.
Like he comes in with the tree,

700
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,320
he leans the tree over, then it
falls on him and that'll.

701
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,200
Stay.
Yeah.

702
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,880
And then he's like pulling the
the power cord and like just

703
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960
ripping up the wall and he's
like, oh, I know what I mean.

704
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,480
Bolt cutters.
And he leaves and the chandelier

705
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,960
just crashes on the table.
That whole sequence.

706
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000
I that was like, I remember as a
kid, like that being like one of

707
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,680
my like, I wanted to get to that
part.

708
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,160
That was the part that I look
forward to.

709
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,880
But yeah, same.
The characters he played.

710
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,640
I loved it when he's the snake
Wrangler.

711
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,640
Yeah, so.
You want one for your boy?

712
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,520
Yeah, I had a boy once.
Oh, man.

713
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,040
So, yeah, so and then when they
come and bring this, the guy,

714
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,040
you think you're the snake guy?
Oh, yeah.

715
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,000
And they pour the snakes in the
in the back of the truck.

716
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,080
Yeah, I'll count them later.
Lie.

717
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,200
Yeah, I'll count them later.
Count them later.

718
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,440
Oh man, OK yeah, it's so good.
Just go watch the movie if you

719
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,640
haven't, even if you're
watching.

720
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Go watch, the age is a Cliff for
me.

721
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Let me hide myself in the.
Oh, man, we love you, Ernest.

722
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,920
OK, so let's jump into, like,
some scenes and trivia, I guess.

723
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Think of some other scenes.
Oh, man.

724
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,960
In the first draft of the film,
Ernest was going to take over

725
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,520
the role of Santa.
And we talked about this

726
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,280
earlier.
Though director John Cherry

727
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,040
liked the idea, Disney balked at
it for good reason.

728
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,800
Their exact words were he would
not mesh with the classic take

729
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,320
of Santa.
Hence, Disney had them rewrite

730
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,920
the story to have Ernest helping
Santa find the next the next guy

731
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,160
in succession.
So once again, I think that's

732
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,320
kind of one of those easy plots
that you just think, Oh well,

733
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,280
he's going to take over the
role.

734
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,440
But adding that extra part I
think is better.

735
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,880
The main film executive to whom
Joe complaints to about the

736
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,120
violence in the language bears a
suspicious striking similarity

737
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,760
to Jeffrey Katzenberg, the head
of Disney, with whom director

738
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,560
John Cherry clashed with often
that.

739
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,240
Might be a stretch.
I I think I can see it, but I

740
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:39,560
mean, just because he's a skinny
guy kind of balding with

741
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,360
glasses, I don't.
I don't know if that was

742
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,640
intentional though.
Yeah, this was funny.

743
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880
The reindeer in the film are
flown from northern Ontario,

744
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,520
Canada to the film's production
in Orlando.

745
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,920
During filming, production ran
into trouble when the reindeers

746
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,760
first down the set the 95° heat.
Their antlers began to shed,

747
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,000
literally falling off, exposing,
sorry, exposing bloody nubs.

748
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600
Reindeer makeup was called in,
prop antlers were considered,

749
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,320
but the reindeer weren't having
it.

750
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,040
Ultimately, the reindeer scenes
were rescheduled and reshot in

751
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,560
Nashville, TN two months later,
which I'm sure was much cooler

752
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,760
in Nashville than good old 90
degree 90° humidity of Orlando.

753
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,240
Yeah, So after the first Test
screening in Burbank, when

754
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,800
director John Cherry saw Michael
Eisner and Jeffrey Katzenberg,

755
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,760
they called him over to a nearby
Denny's to talk and he thought

756
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,200
they're going to use the hammer,
which meant canceling his

757
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,280
contract.
It turned out they did not.

758
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,760
They did.
They did want to change the

759
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,240
contract, but from a three
picture deal to A6 picture deal.

760
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,040
So so they got they got what
they liked.

761
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,600
When Jim Varney was asked why
this movie received APG rating

762
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,640
instead of G, he jokingly
replied, Unusual cruelty to

763
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,000
Reindeer I.
Don't know.

764
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,360
There's there's.
There's a lot that crosses like

765
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,200
it.
It feels like there's a fine

766
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,400
line between G.
And.

767
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,000
PG never quite can put my you
know, like there's there's clear

768
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,280
like rules as to what makes it
PG13 versus R.

769
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,160
Right.
But everything else below that

770
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,280
is kind of.
Yeah, it's kind of like what

771
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,800
exactly gives it the the P?
What it what was it in the

772
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,440
movie?
They made it get the PG rating.

773
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,240
Yeah, because I think this was
before they started adding the

774
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,800
things underneath the rating to
tell you why it got the rating

775
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,760
of they came out like maybe mid
90s, early 90s.

776
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,320
Mid to late 90s.
That was yeah, I think so, yeah.

777
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,280
So, yeah, I think, I think
because there's really no

778
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,720
profanity in the movie at all.
So a lot of times you think no

779
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:48,960
profanity basically makes AG.
But there's been a couple of G

780
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,480
movies I've seen that have one
or two words in them and I've

781
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,520
heard some PG movies that had
more almost as much language as

782
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600
APG 13.
Like I said, it gets it's kind

783
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,880
of hard to differentiate, you
know, once you get down there.

784
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,240
All right, last little bit of
trivia here.

785
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:07,080
In February 1991, David English
pitched another Christmas

786
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,120
related Ernest film.
The plot would follow Ernest

787
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,080
being called by his friend to
temporarily take his place as a

788
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,320
janitor at a famous apartment
store in Greenwich Village, New

789
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,760
York City, becoming a fish out
of water story of Ernest trying

790
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,640
to survive the big city with
bums, taxi drivers and angry

791
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,640
people.
However, he's first mistaken for

792
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,120
a world renowned window
decorator who was also hired on

793
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,480
the same day.
He decorates them with items

794
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,240
that reflect the song The 12
Days of Christmas.

795
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,080
But he mistakes what they are
and what they are, and by

796
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,840
accident, he becomes a New York
celebrity with his unique and

797
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,760
recreated windows in Greenwich
Village.

798
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,280
John Cherry, the director,
rejected it in favor of already

799
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,920
working on a different holiday
movie.

800
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,040
Ernest scared stupid that came
out at the same time.

801
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,120
Yeah.
I don't know about that one.

802
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,320
Yeah, I just don't really see
that as how that would be in

803
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,440
earnest.
Yeah, it's like it, I think.

804
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,560
Yeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't feel Christmas

805
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,720
enough, even though it's 12 Days
of Christmas and the and the

806
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,520
window decorations, which
obviously is a big plot point in

807
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,000
the 80s because we just covered
mannequin last month.

808
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,800
So yeah, going to Halloween was
a better plan.

809
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Different quality.
Ernest Scared Stupid is kind of

810
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,720
dark like that one.
That one gets kind of creepy.

811
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,080
I haven't seen that one a long
time.

812
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,920
I have to go back and watch it.
Add that to my Halloween list,

813
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,000
all right?
Anything else?

814
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,440
So I I have a question, does it
bother you that when he when he

815
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,400
is saying all the reindeers name
that he can't say?

816
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,480
Right?
Well, it's not just that.

817
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,680
It's the fact that he never
remembers Blitzen, which is the

818
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,120
last one he needs.
But do you have a problem with

819
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,720
him saying Donder?
Like how does it work that he

820
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,960
says Donder right?
Right.

821
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,120
It's not I I've always both
liked and been very confused by

822
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,600
that scene because you know,
he's he's trying to get them and

823
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,600
then it's, you know, oh, on
Dasher, on Dancer, and you see

824
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,880
the names lighting up on the
dashboard.

825
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,320
Which brings me to 2 problems. 1
is how does he not know it's

826
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,040
Blitzen?
It would be the only one on

827
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,840
there.
He hasn't said right.

828
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:24,160
But two it the lights start
going out and so I'm like, does

829
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,400
he have to re say the names?
But he doesn't.

830
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
He just says Blitzen and we're
good.

831
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,880
And I get I'm putting a lot of
of yeah, you know, trying to put

832
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,720
a lot of logic into an earnest
movie.

833
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,400
But but anyone who listens to my
show knows that you got to have

834
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,560
your own logic and it hasn't
make sense.

835
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,920
Right, right.
Yeah.

836
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,560
The whole, the whole sleigh
scene gets a little out that

837
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,080
we're kind of like teeters on
the little too far on the

838
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
outrageousness.
Like when it's like circling the

839
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,760
earth super fast.
I'm like, OK, we're just, you

840
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,320
know, I know it now.
It's just like a human cartoon

841
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,760
at this point.
Yeah, it's just a human cartoon

842
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,480
at this point.
But but yeah, I, I will say I do

843
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,480
like, you know, kind of giving
what I liked about the movie

844
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,880
being a low budget, especially
now as I've gotten older and

845
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,440
kind of looking at the tricks
they use to make things work

846
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,760
without spending a lot of money.
Like camera angles and shots of

847
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,000
like you see like stuff happens
off camera, but your imagination

848
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,880
knows what's happened so they
don't have to show it to you.

849
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,920
Which I thought was.
Flying up.

850
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,440
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

851
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,800
Or even when he lands the you
know, when he's landing and it's

852
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,640
spraying the snow on Santa and
everybody stand there, but you

853
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,680
don't actually see him.
Like you hear the brakes and but

854
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,920
you don't see it.
So it's like those little things

855
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,400
that just kind of like they were
very smart of with the money,

856
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,400
like a limited budget, but still
make it entertaining and still

857
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,840
tell the story.
I thought, I thought those

858
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,720
choices were pretty smart for
putting the movie together.

859
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:53,880
Oh, absolutely.
All right, let's talk about box

860
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,960
office.
Earnest Saves Christmas opened

861
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,040
on my birthday, November 11th,
1988.

862
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,400
Well, I was born in 88, but my
day of my birthday in American

863
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,200
theaters in its opening weekend
at place second at the box

864
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,600
office behind Child's Play and
gross $5.7 million.

865
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,040
Its domestic total was 28.2
million, making it the highest

866
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,160
grossing earnest film.
The Land Before Time, Scrooge,

867
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,200
The Naked Gun Twins, and Rain
Man all debuted in the following

868
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,200
weeks, pushing Ernest out of the
theater prematurely.

869
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,120
So it was a tough, tough, tough
fall going into Christmas 88.

870
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,760
All right, it's time for the
rewatch ability nostalgia meter.

871
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Time to take a look at how well
this 80s flick holds up today.

872
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:42,480
It's our way of measuring how
enjoyable a movie is for repeat

873
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,960
viewings, along with the waves
and nostalgia it brings.

874
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,840
Here's how it works as a one to
10 scale.

875
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,280
There me knows it will.
Any number between 1:00 and

876
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,040
10:00 will do.
Here a few parameters for those

877
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,280
that don't know to help you
decide.

878
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,600
At the bottom of the meter at #1
I saw it once and that was

879
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,480
enough.
In the middle of the meter at a

880
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,840
5.
It's a good rewatch every couple

881
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,760
of years or so.
And the highly coveted At the

882
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,120
top #10 highly rewatchable and
full of nostalgia.

883
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:12,280
So, Laramie, where does Earnest
saves Christmas land on the

884
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,880
rewatch ability and nostalgia
meter for you?

885
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,280
I think I'm going to have to.
I'm going to have to go with a

886
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,360
nine for me.
Yeah.

887
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,000
I mean it, it's one of those,
like I said, I try to watch it

888
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,520
every year.
It is 100% nostalgia for me.

889
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,000
It's a 10 just in nostalgia,
right, right.

890
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,040
But it's one of the IT it is
when I think what loses the the

891
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,360
perfect 10 for me is the fact
that if I don't get to watch it

892
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,120
in the Christmas season, I'm
not.

893
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,280
I don't feel like I've missed
out.

894
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,920
I think that's the one thing.
But I honestly, the rewatch

895
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,920
ability I think is is great
because there's not much in this

896
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,360
movie that you would even place
it in 1988.

897
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,040
Yeah, it it does kind of hold up
really well time, yeah, time

898
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,000
wise.
Yeah.

899
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,480
I mean, obviously, yeah,
obviously there's things you can

900
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,400
look into and realize that it's
a, you know, an 80s movie or an

901
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,640
early even early 90s because
obviously no one's got any cell

902
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,040
phones.
And there's there's just some

903
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,840
things where you're like, you
know, that would work different

904
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,600
if it was in today.
But I honestly think it kind of

905
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,200
keeps the timeless kind of set
to it.

906
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,240
There's nothing that just
screams out other than maybe

907
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:32,800
some clothing especially.
Especially his agent.

908
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,360
His age is probably the most 80s
thing in that movie.

909
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,440
I don't know.
What's your name is Holly?

910
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,240
What's the girl's name?
Shoot.

911
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,960
There's no Harmony.
Harmony.

912
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,200
Harmony.
Like some of her outfits, I'm

913
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,120
like, OK, she's homeless, but
she's dressed like, in these,

914
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,080
like, very vibrant, very 80s
somewhat, you know, not high

915
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,880
dollar, but like, just very more
stylish teenage teen clothes.

916
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,840
Yeah, but.
She's got that side ponytail.

917
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,440
Yeah, that side ponytail too.
Yeah, and got got that gets.

918
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:07,720
But I still think it's it's it
keeps it pretty, you know,

919
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,360
obviously it was made in the
80s, so it's going to have some

920
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,680
of that.
But I think overall, like, you

921
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,680
could watch it today and if
you're not really focused on

922
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,920
that, yeah, doesn't feel like an
80s movie.

923
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,240
Right.
The humor doesn't rely on pop

924
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:23,360
culture in the sense of like,
you had to know what's happening

925
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,200
and and that time to get the
jokes.

926
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,320
It's very the the comedy keeps
it kind of timeless.

927
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,800
Other than maybe not knowing
he's doing a John Wayne

928
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,600
impersonation.
Yeah, yeah.

929
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,360
I have always I don't know why
the keep your nose clean little

930
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,840
lady has always stuck in my
head.

931
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,880
It's a good line.
It's a good line, yeah.

932
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,040
For me, it's not quite a nine.
For me, I'm going to give it an

933
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,880
8 because I do think it it, I
think it's got good nostalgia.

934
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,760
Once you get it, it's not one I
I was a huge earnest fan, so

935
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,960
that's why it's high, but it's
not when it like I think of

936
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,640
earnest goes to camp.
I think of the commercials, I

937
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,280
think more than this one.
And even I think when I first

938
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,600
started the podcast, like I
thought this movie came out in

939
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,400
the 90s.
I forgot that even came out in

940
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,280
the 80s.
And it might have been because,

941
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,720
you know, if I didn't see in the
theater and I saw it on cable,

942
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,320
it was probably 90s by the time
or when I was re watching it

943
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,280
over and over again.
You know, that's what I saw

944
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,640
then.
So, but I'm like you like if I

945
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,640
don't see it every Christmas,
I'm not that upset.

946
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,760
There's other Christmas movies
that I have to watch every year,

947
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,240
but I think I think it is a good
rewatch every other year.

948
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,640
You know, I think I don't get to
it every year.

949
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,080
So, so I'll it's going to land
at an 8 for me.

950
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,440
So.
Which I think still Frank's

951
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,840
pretty.
Young and it's respectful.

952
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,920
Yeah, again.
And I and I really I debated an

953
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,800
8 too, because another thing is
it is a great Christmas movie,

954
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,360
but I think it's lacking just
something that gives you that

955
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,480
Christmas feel.
Yeah, yeah, Like it doesn't

956
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,440
quite give you that that
Christmas feel that you get out

957
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,320
of watching, you know, like a
like Arthur Christmas.

958
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,760
I know that's one every time I
watch it, you know that's AI

959
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,960
feel Christmas, even Scrooged.
Like, yeah, yeah.

960
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,840
Scrooged gives me that Christmas
feel.

961
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,240
This one I this one kind of
lacks that a little bit so.

962
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,760
Yeah, which is again, that's a
good point.

963
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
That's a good point.
Yeah, I would, I would agree

964
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:30,600
with that.
I agree with that because like I

965
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,040
said, I think you're right.
Like there's other move the the

966
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,720
ones that I have to watch every
year give me that feeling.

967
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,680
And this one, even though it's
fun and I enjoy it, it it

968
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,640
doesn't give that.
So it's give me Goodbye, the

969
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,680
fireplace with a cup of cocoa
and just with all the lights

970
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,240
turned off except for the
Christmas lights.

971
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:50,000
Christmas tree, Yeah.
Yeah, Christmas tree lights.

972
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,320
So yeah, exactly.
Awesome.

973
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,160
Well, let us know where you
think Earnest saves Christmas

974
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520
should rank on the
rewatchability nostalgia meter.

975
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,080
You can send us an e-mail, tell
us on social media, or you can

976
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,280
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the comments section.

977
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,400
If you're watching this episode
on YouTube.

978
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,960
Well there may I want to thank
you for joining.

979
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,440
Always a pleasure to have you on
the show, my friend.

980
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,760
And once again, thanks for
supporting my die hard is my

981
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,080
favorite Christmas movie shirt.
What's going on at Moving Panels

982
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,560
podcast for Christmas season?
So for Christmas, we are

983
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,080
covering a not an 80s movie, but
just outside of the 80s.

984
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,560
We are, we are actually going to
talk about Batman Returns.

985
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:33,640
Yeah, because that that 100% is
a Christmas movie.

986
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Because nothing.
Because nothing says Christmas

987
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,160
like the Penguin biting the
guy's nose, watching bloods

988
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,480
spurt everywhere.
So.

989
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,960
Yeah, absolutely.
And then we're for a one shot

990
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,640
episode.
The week of Christmas we are

991
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,080
going me and my wife Bethany and
Co host Jerry D from Totally Red

992
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,960
Christmas.
We got together and we are

993
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,480
casting A Christmas Carol but
using comic book characters.

994
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Oh nice, so that'll be a fun
one.

995
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,320
Very cool.
A fun little one shot to listen

996
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:12,120
to as you're rapping presents or
or making the drive to to a

997
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,760
family's house for for
Christmas.

998
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,240
Check those out.
We're sitting in traffic while

999
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:20,760
you're trying to do Christmas
shopping while it's dark outside

1000
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,720
at 5:30, you feel like it's at
9:00 at night.

1001
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,280
Man, this this year, it has been
rough with the time.

1002
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,400
It seems like, it seems like
it's hitting harder this year

1003
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,840
for me to like, like literally
today we were doing some stuff

1004
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,840
and I was like, it's got to be
like 8:00.

1005
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,200
I looked it by like 5:45.
I was like, you've got to be

1006
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,240
kidding me.
But it's all right.

1007
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,520
We get to see the more Christmas
lights.

1008
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,640
The Christmas lights are on
longer.

1009
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,640
So there you go.
It pans out, evens out.

1010
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,320
Which means your power bill is
going to be more.

1011
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,800
Later, we don't talk about that.
That doesn't count in December,

1012
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,960
so we worry about that in
January when we're not eating

1013
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,520
any food because we're trying to
lose weight.

1014
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,400
So it all balances out well.
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1015
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,720
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1016
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:06,240
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1017
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,880
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1018
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1019
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1020
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:18,720
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1021
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1022
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,520
Christmas designs, so be sure to
check those out.

1023
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,360
Actually got a new die hard
design, so let me check that

1024
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,280
out.
Thanks again for tuning in.

1025
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,880
Thank you there for being with
us.

1026
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,880
I'm Tim Williams for the 80s
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1027
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,240
Merry Christmas to all and to
all a good night.

1028
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,840
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