#148 - "Fright Night" (1985) with Chris Adams

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This 80s flick is to All Hallows
Eve what A Christmas Story is to

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Christmas.
A true classic deserving a 24

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hour marathon and a wild all
night celebration where blood

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takes the place of alcohol.
Director Tom Holland's heartfelt

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homage to vampire movies breathe
new life into a horror sub genre

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that was sadly starting to fade
away.

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Much like an undead creature of
the night, it brought the

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vampire back into the spotlight,
setting the stage for other

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nostalgic blood sucking hits of
the era such as The Lost Boys,

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Near Dark and Bram Stroker's
Dracula.

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So grab your binoculars, A
crucifix and a garlic necklace

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as Chris Adams and I discuss
Fright Night from 1985 on this

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special Halloween episode of the
80s Flick Flashback Podcast.

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Happy Halloween everyone and
welcome to the 80s flick

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Flashback podcast.
I am your host Tim Williams.

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Tonight we're peeking through
the curtains at our new next

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door neighbor and something is
terribly wrong but so right for

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an 80s horror classic to help me
investigate.

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I needed a Co host who's a real
vampire killer who isn't afraid

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to confront the darkness.
Please welcome to fright Night

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for real Chris Adams from retro
life for you podcast.

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How you doing Chris?
I am great.

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Thanks for having me on tonight.
Yes, always good to have you on

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the show.
And this is one that you've

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actually covered on your podcast
as well, so go back and check

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out his episode as well.
And it's one of my favorite

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horrors from the 80s, definitely
for sure.

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I think this time last year I
was like, I've got to do this

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one next year.
We had run through all of the

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Halloween films by that by at
the end of last year.

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So I was like, now I can get
into some other horror movies

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that I actually watched when I
was younger.

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So, but while we're talking
about that, when did you see

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Fright Night for the very first
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It was on the cable channel.
It it, I don't know if it was

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HBO or not, but it was on a
cable movie channel.

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And then from that I was hooked
on it.

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And then, you know, every so
often we would, it would be one

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of the movies we rented on a
weekend for like a good scare

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film or something.
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I was it was easy to get my mom
to rent Friday night than it was

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Friday the 13th through.
Yeah, we almost did or

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something.
Yeah, this one's not quite it.

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You know, it really doesn't get
into like the scary, like what

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we call scary stuff, like the
horror stuff and so closer to

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the end.
So there's a lot of story kind

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of build up at the beginning, a
few little, you know, creepy

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things and a few like jump
scares, but it's not really a

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slasher.
There's not a lot of blood,

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there's not a lot, you know,
that kind of stuff.

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So.
So yeah, this was much more

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palpable for me as a younger kid
who was not a big horror movie

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person but really enjoyed it.
So yeah, I, I couldn't remember

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if I saw this on cable first or
if we rented it first.

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But either way, I watched it a
lot.

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I'm pretty sure I recorded the
TV version when it came on TV,

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which edited some stuff, but it
wasn't like, I don't remember

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being like heavily edited like
because it's not, once again,

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it's not really bloody.
There's not a lot of gore

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necessarily.
It's just kind of like it's more

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of a creature feature.
It's more like that monster

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movie where it's more like the
gives you chills, kind of like

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the intensity, but it's not like
gory, scary so.

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I can probably think of a couple
of scenes that were edited out

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for television.
Well, yeah.

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But I mean, for the most part it
would still been.

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You can still follow the story.
Yeah, you can very much follow

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the story, absolutely.
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So how long has it been since
you rewatched it before

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rewatching it for the podcast
tonight?

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Just last year actually, when we
covered it last year.

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Oh yeah, I was I was looking to
I was trying to find a working

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streaming and I couldn't find
anywhere to stream.

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It does the the new version they
remade was available to stream,

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but I wasn't wanting that one.
So I ended up buying it on

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Voodoo Fandango at home,
whatever you want to refer to it

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as these days, right?
So I I bought it on there and I

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watched it then.
Yeah, yeah, I think it was, it

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had to have been on one of the
streamers probably about 5 or 6

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years ago.
It might have been on Prime is

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what I'm kind of thinking it
might have been on because I

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think it does pop up on there,
but it's never on there for like

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a it's only on there for like
maybe a month.

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It's not on there for like a
long period of time.

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And so I remember watching it
then and was like, I remember,

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you know, it.
It reminded me how much I loved

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it.
And so then I bought I watched

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it again I think last year.
I might have rented it then to

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watch it again.
And then I bought it on blue.

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I found it on Blu-ray within the
last year.

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Once I got the Blu-ray, I was
like, I have to do it for the

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podcast this this time.
So it was fun to pull it, put in

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the the Blu-ray yesterday and
and rewatch it again.

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So it had been a while but let's
jump into story, origin and pre

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production all.
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So we mentioned him before a
screenwriter.

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He was a screenwriter at the
time, Tom Holland, and not the

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same Tom Holland that we know as
Spider Man or, you know, Peter

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Parker.
But Peter Parker?

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Screenwriter Tom Holland first
conceived the idea for Fright

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Night while writing Cloak and
Dagger, another great underrated

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80s movie music himself, with
the premise of a horror movie

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fan becoming convinced that his
new neighbor is a vampire.

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But the idea stalled right
there, as Holland put it.

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What's he going to do?
Everybody's going to think he's

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mad.
That single problem kept the

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story percolating in his mind
for an entire year.

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The breakthrough finally came
when Holland was discussing the

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idea with a studio executive.
It's suddenly clicked.

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Of course, the kid wouldn't go
to the police.

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He's obsessed with horror
movies, so he'd seek the help

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from his local TV horror host.
The minute Holland conceived the

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character of Peter Vincent, the
Great Vampire Killer, he knew he

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had the story.
Charlie Brewster was the engine,

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but Peter Vincent was the heart.
With that key character

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unlocked, the script flew out of
him.

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Holland wrote the first draft in
just three weeks, claiming he

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was literally on the floor
kicking his feet in the air in

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hysterics the entire time.
He was also determined to direct

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this one himself, as he was
deeply disheartened by what had

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been done to his previous
screenplay, Scream For Help,

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which I've never heard of.
Holland had built up enough

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clout from writing Class of 1984
like O2 and Cloak and Dagger

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that Columbia Pictures agreed
to, quote UN quote, take a

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chance on the hot screenwriter
kid, never figuring Fright Night

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would become the massive hit
that it was.

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Once the cast was in place,
Holland, who began his career as

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an actor, gave them the luxury
of two full weeks of rehearsal.

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They blocked out every scene to
perform the entire film like a

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stage play, even writing
detailed biographies of their

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characters to fully grasp their
motivations.

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Because of the intense
preparation, all the kinks in

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the story and performances were
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began.
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Holland was so prepared he often
only needed one or two takes of

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a scene before moving on.
What you think is pretty cool,

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being a first time director to
have, you know, to have your

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cast and crew like that on it is
pretty, pretty good.

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So, and I think it, it comes
across with like they, you know,

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they, I've noticed that in
movies where I've done the

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research and find out they did
like extensive rehearsals before

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movie.
It's like you can instantly see

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the chemistry immediately.
Like it's not as I mean, you,

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there's some people that have
that natural chemistry, but like

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everybody in this cast really
clicked really well.

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You could tell they were playing
off each other really well.

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I agree.
Yeah, so we're going to jump

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into the cast and it's not a
long cast, but as because we I

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mentioned they all had to write
these biographies.

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So there's all this cool stuff
about the characters that they

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came up with and kind of like
how they got cast and stuff.

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So we're going to kind of deep
dive a little bit.

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That's why The Storage Room pre
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I kind of tried to keep it kind
of short because we'll get into

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it, but let's jump into casting
Chris Sarandon as Jerry

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Dandridge the vampire.
He's well known for playing

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Prince Humperdinck in The
Prince's Bride in 87, which

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we've covered already.
He also played Detective Mike

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Norris in Child's Play in 1988.
He was also the speaking voice

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of Jake Skellington in The
Nightmare Before Christmas.

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He was nominated for the Academy
Award for Best Supporting Actor

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for his performance in Dog Day
Afternoon 1975.

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S Chris Serrano's agent gave him
a copy of the script and he

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replied there's no way I can do
a horror movie.

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But he decided to give the
script a once over and was

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immediately captivated by the
thought.

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I mean, it was captivated by it,
he said.

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I thought, this is one of the
best scripts I've read in a long

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time.
Beautifully constructed.

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It was obvious that this was a
labor of love.

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It was clear that the writer
directors approach to it was one

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of wanting to have fun with the
genre without making fun of it.

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And the characters were
beautifully drawn.

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I agree Sarandon was worried
about being typecast as a

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villain, but the script
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story was deeper than just an
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He said, forgetting about
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is about on one level is an
older man trying to take a

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younger man's girl away from
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Although he liked the
screenplay, Saranda was still

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leery of working with the first
time director, so he flew to LA

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to meet Tom Holland and producer
Herb Jaffe.

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Jaffe guess I something like
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Herb Jaffe Holland and he had a
mate, had an immediate report

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and went on to make several more
movies after.

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And Saran was awed that mate
that Holland had the film so

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completely mapped out that he
literally described the movie

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shot by shot all the way through
page by page, scene by scene.

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It was basically the way he shot
it.

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So I thought it was pretty cool.
So I like that he was kind of

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hesitant to take the part, but I
can't see anybody else playing

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the part now.
Like he is so good as the

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vampire.
I mean just thinking about he

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like he he may not be my
favorite on screen vampire, but

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he's definitely like the top
three, top 3 or 4.

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I mean, definitely believable.
Yeah.

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I mean, yeah, yeah.
It's like when he, during the

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movie, when you watch, when he's
just methodically walking

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towards Charlie and get that
calmness about him as he's

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speaking to him and what he's
got to what he's going to do.

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Yeah.
When he first catches him in his

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room that night after he'd been
invited in by the mom.

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So now he'd come visit.
He says, matter of fact, I'll

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come visit anytime I like.
If it's OK with your mom, of

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course.
Right, Right.

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And then just comes in there and
just be quiet.

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Charlie, we don't want to waste
your mom.

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We'd have to kill her too,
wouldn't we?

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It's just a little bit of
evilness about him.

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Just a little bit of evilness,
but still at the same time a

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little confident cockiness to
him that he knows Charlie is

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pretty much his for the taking,
but he he knows really well with

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it.
Yeah, he's definitely got like,

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the swagger and the suave, but
still very menacing.

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Like, he plays that duality
like, very well.

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So originally written Jerry
Dandridge was more villainous.

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So Sarandon tried to find
various ways to humanize the

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vampire, including suggesting
the implication that the Amy

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character was a reincarnation of
his long lost love.

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He said.
I wanted to give the audience

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something to hold on to in terms
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This is someone who had one time
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a thinking, feeling human being.
This is a man who's been haunted

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for all his post human existence
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of times and who is a in a sense
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the world's bats populations are
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apples, which Saranda decided
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UN quote, cleanse his palate
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victims.
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Like, that's just a cool little
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Like, why is he eating apples
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Because he's got a clear,
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You know, I just thought that
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It just got done with the Bloody
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Yes, her name was Mary.
Can I have an apple please?

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Right, right.
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green apples that tart.
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Yeah.
So nothing bad to say about

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Chris Sarandon.
Perfectly cast in this movie for

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sure.
I agree, couldn't have got much

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better.
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Charlie Brewster played by
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He is known for playing Charlie
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sequel Fright Night Part 2,
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He's also well known as playing
Herman Brooks on the TV series

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Herman's Head from 1991 to 1994
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And I remember watching Herman's
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That was a fun show like that.
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Inside Out.
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had, they'd have Herman's head
of the Tracy Ullman show, Garry

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Shandling show.
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I can't remember what it was
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It's like they were Realtors or
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those lines.
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I, I just, I can see the two
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but I can't think of the name of
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Saved my life.
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yeah, early Fox TV.
Remember Parker Lewis?

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Parker Lewis can't lose.
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color.
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that I I really liked.
I enjoyed that one.

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So he, William Ragsdale actually
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Dennis and Mask, but he lost the
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Casting director Jackie Birch
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and thought he would be the
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Brewster Ragsdale.
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times and ultimately received
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park on Halloween night in 1984,
beating out several other future

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stars like Charlie Sheen.
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like, OK, that must be one of
those little rumors that people

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just want to put somebody that
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But I found another spot where
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on it.
He said they didn't go with

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Charlie Sheen because quote, UN
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type Ragsdale and playing
Charlie Brewster was the guy

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next door.
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Sheen.
And yeah, I mean, he's played

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kind of like the normal kid, but
he's still he has a different

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way of carrying himself.
So I think a William, Billy

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Ragsdale will William, however
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He he really personified that
kid, kid next door or so that I

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think Charlie Sheen would have.
Definitely.

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But yeah, he was good and I
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character and the actor.
You know he's.

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Surprised he didn't do more than
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If I was to pick somebody other
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wasn't really the hero type at
the time anyway, but wouldn't

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Robert Downey Junior around that
time as well doing a few things?

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Yeah, but that's not really the
character he would he was

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playing.
He was, I mean, he was still

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kind of not swarmy, but he was
kind of the mouthy character,

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you know, he was still kind of
like he was really more of a

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sidekick character.
He.

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Never would he have been a
better Evil Ed than he would

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have Charlie.
Yeah, yeah, he would have been a

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better evil head for sure.
Sorry, I needed a sip of my

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wata.
So wata, Yeah.

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And then we got Roddy McDowell
as Peter Vincent A McDowell

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played Cornelius and Caesar in
the original Planet of the Apes

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film series as well as Galen in
the short lived spin off

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television series.
His other notable roles films

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included His other notable film
roles included Orson Welles,

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Macbeth in 48, The Longest Day
in 62, Cleopatra in 63, the

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Greatest story ever told in 65,
that Darn Cat in 65, Inside

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Daisy Clover 65.
He did a lot of 65 bed knob, bed

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knobs and Broomsticks in 71, The
Poseidon Adventure 72, The Black

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Hole in 79 and overboard in 87
and a Bug's Life in 1998.

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So he's, you know, very well,
very well known.

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The Peter Vincent character was
named after horror icons Peter

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Cushing and Vincent Price, and
Holland specifically wrote the

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part for Vincent Price.
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Price had been so badly typecast
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roles in horror movies.
Guy McElwain, the head of

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Columbia Pictures, suggested
Roddy McDowell for the part.

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McDowell had already starred in
the Holland Penn film Class of

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84, so Holland was immediately
receptive to the suggestion.

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He said he understood the part,
and he also understood what he

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could do with it, and he really
wanted it.

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McDowell was particularly
interested in the genesis of the

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character, he said in the film.
I perform as being in my late

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20s or early 30s in the film
clips of my old movies all the

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way up to my 60s when I'm this
washed up has been I'd never

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played anything that old.
Alan and McDowell built a

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lasting friendship and McDowell
eventually invited Holland to a

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dinner party where he introduced
him to Vincent Price, who was

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flattered to the part was an
homage to him and commented that

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the film was wonderful and he
thought Roddy did a wonderful

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job.
Which think it's pretty cool.

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The only thing the watching it
in like better HD quality.

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The only thing I don't like
about his character is how fake

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Gray his hair looks like.
It just looks like it's just you

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know, white shoe Polish in his
hair.

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Like it just doesn't look
natural at all.

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I can't tell you something funny
about the whole Vincent Peter

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Vincent character.
I'm sure everybody who listens

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to your podcast is more than
familiar with Thriller.

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Yes.
Michael Jackson.

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Yeah.
I don't know why I always wanted

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to say that.
I would always say this, but you

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know what I would think of
Thriller?

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I would think of the end of it
where you're the the guys doing

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the overlay to it.
He he, he's reading over the

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stuff, you know, standing face
downs of hell, you know, rock

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inside a corpse shell.
I was like, I was like, that's

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Peter Vincent.
That's Peter Vincent on Michael

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Jackson's Wrong.
That's what that is.

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That's awesome.
And and the whole time I am

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meaning Vincent.
Vincent Price, but I'm calling

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him Peter Vincent.
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Well, at that age, you know,
age, we saw this, we probably

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probably knew Peter Vincent more
than we knew who Vincent Price

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was most.
Likely.

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And it stood out in my head
because I really liked the

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movie, you know, And it's.
Just of course, yeah.

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So I'm just, I'm just telling
everybody it's that Peter

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Vincent right there, man.
He's cool.

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Guess who wasn't cool?
He's the great vampire hunter.

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Yeah.
So McDowell also did a lot of

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work on his character and made a
conscious decision to pattern

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his performance like the
Cowardly Lion in The Wizard of

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Oz, which I totally see.
Yeah, he said.

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My part is that of an old Ham
actor.

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I mean, a dreadful actor.
He realizes it, but doesn't,

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doesn't want to admit it.
He has a moderate success in an

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isolated film here and there,
but all very bad product.

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The poor guy just played the
same character all the time,

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which was awful, and then he
disappeared from sight 15 years

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beforehand.
He's been peddling these movies

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to late night TV, various
syndicated markets.

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So he goes six months in Iowa,
six months in Podunk.

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McDowell commented to Fangoria.
He's got such a sad life.

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He's sort of cowardly and then
he finds his strength as a human

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being.
Despite the pathetic character

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was betraying, McDowell was a
pillar for the cast and crew.

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Sarandon called him the Yoda of
the set, and Ragsdale said he

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had his video camera on his
shoulder.

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He was shooting like family
movies the whole time.

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The other cool fact is What are
the life masks of Roddy McDowell

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taken from Planet of the Apes
franchise is visible in Peter

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Vincent's apartment, which I
didn't notice, but I have to go

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back and find that that shot
where you can see the mask.

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Read this somewhere before.
Yeah, so.

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Nice little nod there.
There was some, but I thought

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there was something else he had
too in that.

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In his apartment.
That's the only thing that I saw

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in multiple, like multiple
places when I was doing the

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research.
I don't know if there was

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something else there that I I
might have overlooked.

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Posters I'm looking at now
posters from classic Hammer

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Films honoring the genres
groups.

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Gotcha, Gotcha.
That makes sense.

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All right.
Speaking of early days of Fox,

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we've got Amanda Bierce as Amy
Peterson, who we know mostly

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from Married with Children.
But before that, she made her TV

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debut playing the role of Amanda
Cousins on the ABC daytime soap

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opera All My Children from 82 to
83 the following year.

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Following year, she had a small
role in the comedy film

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Protocol, starring Goldie Hawn,
and later landed a role in the

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sex comedy Fraternity Vacation.
In 8085, she won the female lead

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for Fright Night.
She returned to television with

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a guest starring role in the ABC
drama series Hotel in 86.

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The following year, she was cast
as Marcy Rhodes, the feminist

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next door neighbor on the Fox
sitcom Married With Children.

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The series ran to 1997, becoming
one of the longest running

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sitcoms in TV history.
Amazingly, this is the role that

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was the most difficult to cast,
they said.

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Holland said they they couldn't
find the girl next door until

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she walked in.
So which she is a very kind of

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girl, especially in this very
girl next door type of

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character.
Yeah, Marcy Darcy.

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Yeah, Marcy Darcy.
But I will say, and I'll go

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ahead and go down to this note,
they try really hard to be

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teenagers in this, but some
scenes it's like you can tell

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they're really trying hard to
look like to be teenagers.

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William Ragsdale, in reality was
2427.

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Stephen Goffrey's, who played Ed
Evil, was 20, so he was actually

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the youngest of them.
But yeah, I mean, she's, you

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know, 27 playing 17.
So you know it's.

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What we call the Ralph Macchio
effect.

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Yeah, I mean, she she looks
young, but there's just certain

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times around in her acting.
It was like, I can tell that

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she's really trying to be trying
to play young, but but she was

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still good.
I still liked her in in this

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movie.
And it was funny because I think

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when I went back and rewatched
it, you know, 5 or 6 years ago,

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I had forgot that she was the
female lead in this.

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And when she popped up, I was
like, Oh my gosh, it's Marcy

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from, from Marable children.
She's young.

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I don't remember being that
young.

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So it was funny.
Do you find yourself referring

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to her as Marcy Rhodes or Marcy
Darcy?

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I just remember her as Marcy.
I don't I don't think I watched

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the full like I watched Marable
children.

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I think the first maybe four or
five seasons, I didn't follow it

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all the way until the end.
And I'll I'll be honest, it I

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might get some e-mail on this
one.

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It wasn't my favorite show.
Like I, I kind of, I liked it,

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but I wasn't as big of a fan as
a lot of other people were.

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I mean, it was funny, but I
just, I, you know, that type of

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humor wasn't that that wasn't my
go to at that time.

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So you know.
Yeah.

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But looking at it now, like
watching clips of a now, I would

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it would probably a show that I
would love now, but back then I

447
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,520
just, I didn't, I didn't
resonate with the humor as much

448
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,920
as I do now.
So but.

449
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,680
Understandable.
Yep.

450
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,360
So moving right along we got
Stephen Jeffries as Evil Ed

451
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,040
Thompson.
He also appeared in Heaven Help

452
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,680
Us in 85, Fraternity Vacation in
85, at close Range in 86, which

453
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,400
I just rewatched this couple
weeks ago, and 976 Evil.

454
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,920
In 1988, due to a mix up, he had
an awkward audition for Anthony

455
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,920
Michael Hall's role in Weird
Science, and he made an

456
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,160
indelible impression on Jackie
Birch, the casting director who

457
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,200
suggested him for Fright Night.
Although he was not a horror

458
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,880
movie fan, he loved the script.
So he called his agent and

459
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,760
emphatically cleared he would
love to audition for Charlie

460
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,400
Brewster.
No Steve, his agent replied,

461
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,800
you're wanted for the part of
Evil.

462
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,680
Ed Jeffries was simultaneously
baffled and heartbroken.

463
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,960
What do they see in me?
They think I should be this.

464
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,800
Well, anyway, it worked out so.
And The funny thing is, he and

465
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,040
Amanda Beers had played a couple
in Fraternity Vacation and went

466
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,960
straight from that movie to
filming Fright Night.

467
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,240
So they already worked together
previously, but in a much

468
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,160
different capacity.
So I think I saw Fraternity

469
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,120
Vacation.
Like, it seems oddly familiar,

470
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,280
but it's not one that I know
that will.

471
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,040
Doesn't sound familiar to me, I
don't remember.

472
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,120
It yeah, I'm sure I'm, I'm sure
I saw the poster for it on to be

473
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,960
Here recently and maybe that's
why it's sticking out in my

474
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,920
head, but I don't remember them
in it at all.

475
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,240
You know, to Be shows a lot of
the older and more obscure

476
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,120
things too.
Yeah, exactly.

477
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,720
Then we got Jonathan Stark as
Billy Cole, the the vampires, I

478
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,680
guess the Renfield to the
Dracula character.

479
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040
So as an actor, he's best known
for playing the vampire

480
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,600
bodyguard and servant Billy Cole
in Fright Night.

481
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,920
He also played Sergeant Krieger
in Project X87 with Matthew

482
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,880
Broderick and he was also
Charlie and House to the second

483
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,480
story in 87.
He's really more known as a

484
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,160
writer and he will actually
created a couple of TV shows in

485
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,240
the 80s to like he was a he kind
of got got some things going,

486
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,560
but he was not a fan of vampire
films that he also liked the

487
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,720
script.
The Billy Cole character was

488
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,680
written as a hulking giant, so
Stark patted himself with extra

489
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,960
clothing when he went in to
audition.

490
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,280
At auditions, he read the scene
in which he's being questioned

491
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,040
by the detective, which was
written to be played straight.

492
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,280
He said, I'm thinking he's
thinking if I'm sitting there

493
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,840
being evil, the lieutenant's
going to get suspicious.

494
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,760
Why not throw him off the trail
by being funny?

495
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040
Holland liked his take on the
character and Stark told him

496
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760
told him he had the part, but
because it came in to read at

497
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,160
the start of the audition
process.

498
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,520
Months passed before built
filming commenced and Stark

499
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,000
worried that he lost the role.
The gap worked his advantage

500
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,800
because he was able to give him
time to hit the gym and bulk up

501
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,520
so he wouldn't have to wear
padding in the film.

502
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080
So I did find this pretty cool.
Most viewers conclude that Billy

503
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,520
was some kind of ghoul or
possibly 1/2 vampire who hadn't

504
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,160
fully turned.
Another possibility is that he

505
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,120
was a golem made by Dandridge
from sand and other matter in

506
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,800
order to serve as a his
protector.

507
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,560
And they say because the way he
dies with the green goo ooze why

508
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,720
he was different.
I mean, that would make me think

509
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,160
cool.
Yeah.

510
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,160
But did you notice at the end
where they're fighting Dandridge

511
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,320
at the end?
There's two coffins down there,

512
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,080
not one.
Yeah.

513
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,800
I did.
Yeah, I did notice that.

514
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,760
So, so you know, maybe not fully
turned vampire could have some

515
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,840
truth to it.
Yeah, but he was outside.

516
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,200
Like, I mean, he, you know, the
the sunlight didn't bother him.

517
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,640
Would or would Zombie describe
him better?

518
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,560
I don't know, I think I like the
the ghoul is my favorite of the

519
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,720
of the theories.
Yeah.

520
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,800
But yeah, so that's the main
cast.

521
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,520
I will mention Art J Evans as
Detective Linux just because I'm

522
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,200
like I've seen him and other
things.

523
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,240
Yeah, trespass.
Yeah, with two.

524
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,960
That's, yeah, Die Hard two, he
was in A Soldier story with

525
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,280
Denzel Washington 84, but he has
over 100 film and TV rolls to

526
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,080
his credit.
But yeah, that, I mean Die Hard

527
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,760
2 is probably the one I most
recognized him from, so I will

528
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,360
like last one I have.
The character of Peter Vincent

529
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,640
claims he had been fired from
hosting Fright Night because

530
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440
quote UN quote, all they want
are demented Mad Men running

531
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040
around in ski mask hacking up
young virgins.

532
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,040
An obvious reference to Friday
the 13th franchise.

533
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,040
The bouncer Nick Savage at the
club who first confronts Jerry

534
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,560
plays one of the three
motorcycle gangs killed by Jason

535
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,720
Voorhees.
And Friday the 13th, 3:00 and

536
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,040
from 1982.
Nice little connection point

537
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,840
there.
Anybody else in the cast that I

538
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,960
forgot to mention?
Nobody stands out.

539
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,400
I mean, the mom doesn't stand
out to me by any means.

540
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,640
I was surprised because I
thought she would have had a

541
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,280
little bit more of a
filmography, but she really

542
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,760
didn't.
So I didn't really add her, but

543
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,240
she's she has a very small part.
So yeah.

544
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,040
But yeah, I mean, that's kind of
like even even the detective, he

545
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,400
just kind of has that one scene
and that's really all he's in.

546
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,360
So I think we covered the ones
that kind of are the mate, the

547
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,040
main players of the movie for
sure.

548
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,520
So I was jumping to iconic
scene.

549
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,240
So if someone said to you Fright
Night, what's the first scene

550
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,800
that pops in your head?
Fright night, top of the stairs,

551
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,280
coming around the corner.
They're thinking maybe, you

552
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,440
know, they can go around the
backside to go sneak up on him.

553
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,520
The front door opens.
They're like, Nope, I guess we

554
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,840
got to go in.
Then they go in and the door

555
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,400
shuts and Roderie just walks
around the corner at the top of

556
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040
the steps and gives it.
Also that memorable quote from

557
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,920
the movie because that was what
was said during Peter Vincent's.

558
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,680
Yeah, yeah, his TV.
Show TV shows and stuff.

559
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,080
So kind of a mockery toward him
and everything that stands out

560
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680
first and foremost.
And then if I had to have

561
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:47,120
another scene that stands out to
me then man, because that was

562
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,080
the obvious one.
That's the low hanging fruit to

563
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,880
grab.
I, you know, maybe when Jerry

564
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,680
Dandridge first visits Charlie
in the house and he's going to

565
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040
go ahead and and kill him, but
he also offers him mercy at one

566
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,160
point.
You know, he's like, you know,

567
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,560
just, you know, be smart, take
it or whatever.

568
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,400
And instead he stabs him in the
hand with the pencil, which by

569
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,560
the way, stabbed him in the hand
with the pencil while his hand

570
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,520
was where?
On his neck across his jugular.

571
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,400
And you telling me the pencil is
through his hand but it.

572
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Didn't it?
Didn't Pierce it.

573
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,240
Didn't nick his neck in any way.
I mean, it's I'm, I'm, I'm a big

574
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,880
fan of cool things in the
movies, but I'm also nitpicky

575
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,440
sometimes.
And that was just, you know,

576
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,800
yeah, it was missing something
there.

577
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Yeah, let's see, iconic scene
for me, actually, the scene that

578
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,680
always pops in my head is when
we first see Amy become the

579
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,400
vampire, like the the teeth in
the face, like when she turns

580
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,480
and.
Are we talking like?

581
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,840
Hideous mouth, yeah.
There's a big giant teeth.

582
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,760
Yeah, the, yeah, the big giant
teeth, you know, the jaws, eggs.

583
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160
So that's, that's what I think
of.

584
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,640
And then also when Dandridge
like jumps from the stairs like

585
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,200
that, that hunch or whatever
look that that stands out to me.

586
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Oh yeah, when he comes, when he
comes to the glass.

587
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, it comes to
the glass.

588
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,600
That's is it.
All right.

589
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320
We were joking about Spider Man
earlier, Tom Holland, right?

590
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320
When he comes to the glass, was
it not Spider Man?

591
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,600
It's like to you?
Yeah.

592
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,880
Arms were up kind of like this.
It looked like his legs are kind

593
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,880
of spread out and you need
lands.

594
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,160
That's almost like a Spider Man
look.

595
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Yeah, yeah, very possible.
So yeah.

596
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,440
And then the the scene in the
nightclub when he's seducing Amy

597
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,560
and kind of she's, you know,
under his spell was always and I

598
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,360
like the song.
The song in that scene is cool

599
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,040
too.
I like the I like the, I really

600
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,640
like the music in this.
I was kind of, I kind of forgot

601
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,040
the music, but the score is like
really cool.

602
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,800
Like it's, it's very easy, but
it's very, it doesn't sound like

603
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,440
it's of the time, but it's not
like a typical like spooky score

604
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,880
that you would expect from like
a horror movie.

605
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Like it was it was cool.
I liked it a lot.

606
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:11,160
Think the the title song The
Fright Night that was in Boingo.

607
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,600
Boingo.
Wasn't it the ones that did the

608
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,280
title for Weird Science?
No, the title song was by Gap

609
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Band.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna look it up.

610
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Now, because I just I just
looked at it the one.

611
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,000
Called Fright Night, there was
titled Fright Night.

612
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Yeah, it's either the J Gills
band or The Gap Band.

613
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,120
Let me see.
I'm pulling.

614
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,400
It the J Giles Band, that's who
it was, I think, Yeah.

615
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,720
Soundtrack Yeah.
Fright Night Fright Night was

616
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240
Jay Gill's band.
Those are the soundtrack

617
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,240
features Devo members side
project Oingo Blingo, but Jay

618
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Giles Band was tracked this
fright night.

619
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,960
There you go.
Yeah.

620
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,320
I got it.
Devo's on there.

621
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,920
Let's talk about favorite
scenes.

622
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,320
So we talked about iconic
scenes.

623
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,640
What are your favorite scenes in
the movie?

624
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Favorite scenes, man, the way I
so you know the the the special

625
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,760
effects they did when they
finally kill the what is his

626
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480
name?
That's Jerry's friend in the

627
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,200
house.
Billy.

628
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,120
Billy, When they they finally
kill Billy, I mean, First off

629
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,720
they shoot him and then they
think he's done with.

630
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,600
They think he's human and he's
at the foot of the stairs.

631
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,160
And then Jerry Dandridge says
something.

632
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,280
He muttered something, which was
basically sending him the

633
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,440
message to get up, you know, and
do what you do or whatever.

634
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,800
And he's coming up the stairs
and they're they're walking up

635
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,000
the steps.
Then they stop and they hear a

636
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760
creaking in the steps.
They're like, oh, no, they turn

637
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,560
around.
It's him.

638
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,200
So he's like he unloads the gun
on him and everything and

639
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,760
doesn't really do enough for
him.

640
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,720
And then when when Brewster
stabs him with that stake and

641
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,920
the way the special effects go,
it just stands.

642
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,360
It stands out in my mind.
You start seeing the green stuff

643
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,520
dripping to the ground, making a
puddle of a green goo or ooze or

644
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,480
whatever it is.
And then the way the body just

645
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,840
starts melting away.
And then there's dust where the,

646
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,840
you know, the bones are just
turning into dust.

647
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720
That one always stands out to
me.

648
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,720
Flying around is that big bat
stands out to me.

649
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,120
Yeah.
And then lastly is is it's not

650
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,920
when she first gets turned into
the vampire with a big goofy

651
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,800
giant, giant teeth in the mouth,
but when she's actually a little

652
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,080
bit more normal in the basement,
when they're going to get

653
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,520
Dandridge in the basement to
finish them off and she shows up

654
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
there.
So the, the, there's, you know,

655
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,200
there's, there's, it's hard to
pick a favorite scene in it

656
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,840
because it was just a good story
for a movie all the way through.

657
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,280
Not a lot of scenes really stand
out as being something I want to

658
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,840
go back and rewatch.
But I I do like to rewatch the

659
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,640
movie in general because.
Yeah, it's AI mean it's really

660
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,440
good from beginning to end.
I mean, yeah, like for me, the

661
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880
fate, my favorite stuff is
pretty much at the end, like,

662
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,360
but it's all the special
effects.

663
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Like I love the bat.
I love the fight with the bat

664
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,440
with him and Peter Vincent.
I love that, you know, just as

665
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,760
soon as they come into the
house, like from there to the

666
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,360
end is great.
Like I just love every part of

667
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,440
the third act.
But I think it's because I love

668
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,679
the practical effects.
I love the look at the puppet

669
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960
kind of, you know, you could
tell the the bad is like a

670
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,199
puppet or whatever, and even
like the makeup for her and

671
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,760
Dandridge you can tell is not,
you know, perfect, but it's

672
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600
still cool.
Like I'm in as a kid, it was

673
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,560
like it was scary, but it's it
was fake enough to where I

674
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920
wasn't like traumatized as a
child, you know what I'm saying?

675
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Like it wasn't so real, right.
Maybe that's why I liked it so

676
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,199
much.
But.

677
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,400
It was about as goofy looking as
a Toxic Avenger, you know, and,

678
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,199
and, and we all seen the Toxic
Avenger probably, you know,

679
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,880
whether we just sneak to watch
it or whatever, we most likely

680
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,840
at that age also watched that.
And so he just looks like a a

681
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,640
little bit better version than
the Toxic Avenger probably.

682
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,840
I did read that like the effects
team I had worked on, like some

683
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,480
of them had worked on
Ghostbusters.

684
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,480
So they had a good effects team.
They probably just didn't have

685
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,720
the same kind of budget and
worked with it what they had.

686
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,280
And I think, I think it's on
here.

687
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,240
And let me go and pull it up
towards the bottom.

688
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Where did it go?
Oh, yeah, here we go.

689
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,120
While blocking a scare scene,
director Tom Holland asked

690
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,440
visual effects man Randall
William Cook if he could devise

691
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,240
a quote, UN quote shark mouth
for one of the vampires.

692
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,320
There was neither time nor money
left in the budget to create an

693
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,040
elaborate prosthetic, but Cook
agreed to concoct a rig over a

694
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,560
weekend with the proviso that it
would only be seen on screen for

695
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,360
a few seconds.
Ultimately, the crudely made

696
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,080
mouthpiece was not only
featurely featured extensively

697
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,320
in the film, it was also
utilized in the movies famous

698
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,520
poster art.
Which is true.

699
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,480
Like the poster is, you know,
not my fate, not I.

700
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,360
It's like that was iconic scene.
But when I think of Friday

701
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,720
night, I also think of that
poster like, and the poster is

702
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,840
so good that if you look at the
poster for Fright Night Part 2,

703
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,760
it's almost the same poster.
Like they didn't even change it

704
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,160
that much.
Man, I you know what?

705
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,000
I'm not going to lie, I can't
even remember what Part 2 was

706
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,320
about.
Don't.

707
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Don't even go back.
When I watched it a couple of

708
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,240
years ago, I had rules of
reading up and I was like, it

709
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,360
got terrible reviews and I
started watching it.

710
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,600
I think I might have made it 20
minutes in and I was like, I

711
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,520
can't.
I can't even.

712
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,480
I remember the character.
I remember the character of Evil

713
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:41,720
Ed Stephen Jeffries.
He, he turned it down to do 976

714
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,600
evil, right?
Is that what I read?

715
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,480
Is that what he did?
Let me see.

716
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,240
I had it.
I had it.

717
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:48,080
Pulled up.
It might be.

718
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,680
I don't.
I don't.

719
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,520
I know that, you know, Ragsdale
and Rodney McDowell returned,

720
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,800
but I don't really remember.
Yeah, Ed was not.

721
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Ed was not in it, for sure.
All right.

722
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,600
So was offered a role in 976
Evil and chose that instead of a

723
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,400
sequel, a decision he says he
later regretted.

724
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,760
I don't think I've ever seen 976
evil.

725
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,400
I haven't either because it just
looks a little too stupid for

726
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,120
me.
I'm sorry.

727
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,280
With a title like that, you kind
of know what you're getting

728
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,600
into, right?
Yeah, yeah, most people probably

729
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,600
remember what the 976 were.
So not not one of your parents

730
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520
appreciated if you called.
Right, right.

731
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Exactly.
All right, So let's let me, I'll

732
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,720
go over some of this, some of
these other trivia that I have.

733
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,920
So originally, the script
featured A radically different

734
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,920
ending, which was revised prior
to filming.

735
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,120
As Charlie and Amy lie on the
bed making out, Fright Night

736
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,240
comes on TV and Peter Vincent
declares tonight's creepy

737
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,240
crawler as Dracula strikes
again.

738
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,280
Obviously about vampires.
You know what vampires look

739
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,400
like, don't you?
They look like this.

740
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Charlie and Amy are horrified as
Peter begins to transform.

741
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,760
Once his transformation to a
vampire is complete, Peter

742
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,640
stares to the camera, says hello
Charlie and the picture freeze

743
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,720
frames and the credits roll.
So the original ending was that

744
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,760
Peter Vincent was going to
actually he had gotten bit and

745
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,120
turned in the final battle which
I was like it's OK.

746
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,840
But I don't think it's I like
the I like the regular ending

747
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,680
with just the hearing, seeing
the red eyes and hearing Evil

748
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Ed's voice at the end.
So.

749
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,240
You're so.
Which is Brewster, yeah, Which

750
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,840
is why, you know, you it would
make sense that he would be in

751
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,040
the sequel, so.
So there's another, OK, another

752
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,200
cool scene.
Speaking of you bled when he's

753
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,520
over there.
Peter Benson has gone to to

754
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,760
check on, I guess Charlie's
mother.

755
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,160
And there's this look.
I swear when you he had looked

756
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840
at her, thinking it's her in the
bed with the covers with the red

757
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,560
hair, with that raggedy and
raggedy and red hair looking

758
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,160
stuff on top of his head.
But his the way he's acting the

759
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,440
the apparently she's working
nights.

760
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,840
You know, it's the same, same,
same Ed voice.

761
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:08,480
It's like.
Yeah, he hams it up really well.

762
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560
I mean, like he's a hand me
character anyway.

763
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,560
Once he once he turns, it's like
super hamified.

764
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,880
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like he's, it's

765
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,800
almost like stealing the scene.
Almost.

766
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,960
Oh yeah, yeah, the other cool
scene, like I will say the other

767
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,000
cool scene that I remember and
kind of iconic is when he gets

768
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,200
branded with the crucifix like
that scene and that sticks after

769
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,960
that, which I thought was cool
what I donated.

770
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,960
And like, I'm not a big person
on vampire lore, but why did why

771
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200
did Ed turn into the wolf?
Do we know?

772
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,040
Because when the wolf, when the
wolf shows up, I automatically

773
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,160
think it's Billy.
I don't think it's Ed.

774
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Like I'm thinking that Billy is
the one that turned would be

775
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,400
turning into the werewolf to
protect Dandridge.

776
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,480
So he's Googling everyone.
I am.

777
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,240
This is the part of the podcast
where the Co host googles.

778
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,600
Yes it does.
Ed turned into a wolf in Friday

779
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,600
night as a display of vampires
shape shifting abilities, not

780
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,400
because he became a werewolf.
A vampire's bite turns a person

781
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,720
into another vampire, and
vampires are shown to have the

782
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:14,120
power to transform into various
forms such as wolves, bats or

783
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,000
mist.
And now a vampire transforms

784
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,840
into a wolf to protect Peter
Vincent before being killed by a

785
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,080
stake to the heart, which causes
him to revert to his human form

786
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,800
as he dies.
Now we know.

787
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:32,080
And knowing is half the battle.
So GI Joe told us all right.

788
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,720
And so I thought it was pretty
cool.

789
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:36,640
The novelization fills in some
background details on the

790
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,320
characters.
So here are a few like tidbits

791
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,400
from the novelization.
Despite Charlie saying he and

792
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,800
Amy had been a couple for nearly
a year, in the book, they'd only

793
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,560
been seeing been seeing each
other for about 3 months.

794
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,040
Charlie's father had left the
family years ago.

795
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Charlie's middle name is Alan.
I don't know why that's

796
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,400
important.
He was planning to propose to

797
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,360
Amy someday.
Peter Vincent's real name is

798
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,280
Herbert Mccoolahy.
He auditioned for a bit part in

799
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,560
a horror movie and instead got
the lead role, so he changed his

800
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,960
name to Peter Vincent.
He's been an actor for 25 years.

801
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,560
After being fired, he planned to
move to Cleveland to host a new

802
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,400
show.
Jerry Dandridge is at least 400

803
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,200
years old, possibly more.
He's been the first to publicly

804
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,560
claim to the vampire community
that chemical additives upped

805
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640
blood's nutritional value to the
undead.

806
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,440
Dandridge is highly rated in
vampire society.

807
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,480
He comes from Transylvania
originally and can implant

808
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560
psychic commands into people's
minds.

809
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,120
He knows right away that evil Ed
failed to kill Peter.

810
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,880
Billy Cole has served Dandridge
for 113 years.

811
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Although not a vampire, he's not
human either, but he does eat

812
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,080
and drink, and the book implies
he's a necrophiliac.

813
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,960
Billy sometimes envy Jerry's
powers.

814
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:54,600
Jerry and Billy claim to be
Jerry and Billy claim to be

815
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,400
business partners, Dandruff's
deals and antiques, which is why

816
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,560
he makes his fortune.
He finds them and Billy restores

817
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,800
them.
He claims the coffin that he and

818
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,520
Billy were carrying into the
basement was a 16th century

819
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,800
Bavarian chest.
The reason why Peter is hosting

820
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,320
Fright Night at the climax is
because after he was fired, one

821
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,640
of the stagehands got the job.
The teen audience was outraged,

822
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,880
and Peter was backed by popular
demand.

823
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,560
The end.
The end scene is supposed to be

824
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,000
set three months later.
Even though Amy's human again,

825
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,320
she still has the breasts of a
vampire, much to Charlie's

826
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,120
delight, and their relationship
has moved on to the sexual

827
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,280
level.
So that's, that's the

828
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,760
novelization.
If you want to go back and read

829
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,080
the book, there's all the
there's all the changes that you

830
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,400
didn't know was in theirs.
Not only a novel, but this thing

831
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,880
also spawned comics as.
Well, it did.

832
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,760
Yeah, I did.
I did read that it did have a

833
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,160
little bit of a comic run as
well, which I thought was pretty

834
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,040
cool.
And I don't know if I don't know

835
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,360
if you mentioned earlier you may
have and I might have missed it.

836
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,920
Did you mention that it was the
highest grossing horror comedy

837
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,600
of 85?
Yes.

838
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,960
Well, I haven't.
I'm getting the box office.

839
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,920
We ain't got there yet, but
yeah.

840
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,480
So, well, question, I mean.
Well, I'll ask you when you get

841
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,680
the box office.
Never mind.

842
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,600
I'm just going to give this last
little trivia tidbit which I

843
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,560
which I noticed, I don't know if
I had noticed it before, but I

844
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,120
noticed it this time in one of
the old movies of Peter Vincent.

845
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,160
You can see how bad of a vampire
yet he is vampire hunter he is

846
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,920
because in one scene he goes
after the vampire and he's

847
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,840
holding the stake backwards.
So the flat end is in the front

848
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,480
and the spike is behind him.
And I saw it this.

849
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,760
Time I fight.
That's funny.

850
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920
I killed him.
Now, I didn't put this in the

851
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,000
notes, but I, I, I kind of want
to mention it now.

852
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,880
There was talk of like why when
Peter Vincent is like driving

853
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,280
the steak into Dambridge and
he's in the coffin at the end,

854
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,400
why it doesn't kill him?
And there are two theories. 1 is

855
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,760
that it has to be pure wood.
And because they put, they use

856
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,680
the steaks from like the, the
legs of a table or whatever it

857
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,040
might have been, it might not
have been pure wood, but some

858
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,280
kind of cheaper wood fat, you
know, mixed material.

859
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,920
So because it wasn't 100
percent, 100% wood, it didn't

860
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000
work.
The other thing was because

861
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Peter Vincent wasn't a real
vampire hunter and he was so

862
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,600
scared.
He was probably not going into

863
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,000
his heart.
He was just going into his

864
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,320
chest, which is why it didn't
work.

865
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,880
So but people think it's more of
the the type of wood because he

866
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,000
uses the same kind of steak on
evil Ed as the werewolf and

867
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,600
because that doesn't kill him
either.

868
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,360
They also think that that's what
it that's what it is.

869
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,360
So thought that was interesting.
Let us know what you think in

870
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,520
the comments.
So all right, let's jump in the

871
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,280
box office.
Fright Night open on August 3rd,

872
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,520
1985, with a solid with solid
box office numbers landing at #3

873
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,240
on the weekend box office behind
Back to the Future and National

874
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:52,320
Lampoon's European Vacation,
respectively.

875
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,920
It did beat out the other two
new releases, Weird Science and

876
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:01,360
#4 and Follow That Bird at #9 it
performed the best of any horror

877
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,800
film released during the summer
of 85, and it was the second

878
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,760
highest grossing horror film of
85, surpassed only by Nightmare

879
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,520
on Elm Street to Freddy's
Revenge.

880
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,760
So what question did you have?
So it's his highest grossing

881
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,120
horror comedy now is it the all
is there?

882
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,440
Are they differentiating horror
movies that year from horror

883
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,160
comedy or is it the highest
grossing horror movie of the

884
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,760
year?
No, because Nightmare Elm Street

885
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,400
2 was the highest grossing.
All right, so they, they're

886
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,480
definitely, yeah.
Yeah, you wouldn't consider,

887
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,440
wouldn't consider that a comedy.
This one is.

888
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,640
I mean, it has some funny
moments, but I don't really

889
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,800
think of it necessary as a
comedy.

890
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,160
So it's interesting how they how
they term things.

891
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,920
So, yeah.
Yeah.

892
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,600
Now it's time to take a look at
how well this 80s flick holds up

893
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today.
The Rewatch Ability Nostalgia

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Meters our way of measuring how
enjoyable a movie is for repeat

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00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,480
viewings, along with the waves
nostalgia it brings.

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00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Here's how it works.
It's a one to 10 scale.

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Any number between 1:00 and
10:00 will do.

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Here are a few parameters to
help you decide.

899
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,960
At the bottom of the meter is a
#1, which basically means I saw

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00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,840
it once and that was enough.
In the middle, at #5 is a good

901
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,560
rewatch every couple of years
and the highly coveted At the

902
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,440
top of the meter #10 highly
rewatchable and full of

903
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,680
nostalgia.
So Chris, where does Fright

904
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,400
Night rank for you on the
rewatch ability and nostalgia

905
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,400
meter?
I think I give it an 8 because

906
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,880
I, I like, I, I like watching a
movie.

907
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,160
I mean, I, I watch it
practically every year around

908
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,840
Halloween.
There are certain ones every

909
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,200
year that I'll pick up and watch
and Halloween.

910
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,240
I mean, this is one of them.
Maybe I'm St. 3 or 4 or the

911
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:47,680
original Elm Street.
The original Elm Street for

912
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,120
sure.
Yeah.

913
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,800
And maybe a couple of others
stand out to me if I'm in the

914
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,720
mood.
Like there was one called Trick

915
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,440
or Treat.
There's actually two different

916
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,640
movies.
You might get them confused.

917
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,320
One's trick.
Trick or treat like.

918
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,920
Trick or treat?
Yeah.

919
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,720
And then there's Trick or Treat,
which has Mark Price in it.

920
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,200
OK Skippy from Family Ties.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

921
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,280
That's a fun one to watch at
Halloween time too.

922
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,600
So.
And it's it's one of those

923
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,960
movies like Fright Night in a
sense.

924
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,160
It's not about vampires, but
it's not your franchise type

925
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,160
horror movies like Friday the
13th and Halloween and Nightmare

926
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,640
on Elm Street and such as kind
of a stand alone kind of movies.

927
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,080
Gotcha.
But yeah, definitely an 8 for

928
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,760
me.
I like it, yeah.

929
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,440
I think it's a I'm going to give
it an 8.5.

930
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,200
It's not quite a nine yet, but
now that I've, I think now it's

931
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going to kind of be in, now that
I own it, it's going to go in my

932
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,000
yearly rotation because it is
one that I think I'm going to

933
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,720
want to watch every year.
Like I tend to watch Lost Boys

934
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,720
every year.
I tend to watch Monster Squad

935
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:52,640
every year, you know, the
franchise ones.

936
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,440
It's like it's hard to watch
those and everything else

937
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,440
because I want to watch all of
them.

938
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,560
So I usually just kind of pick
like one of the Friday the 13th

939
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,440
or one of the Nightmare on Elm
streets to watch.

940
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,800
But yeah, this is definitely one
that I, I think I was is going

941
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,240
to go into my heavy rotation.
So it might be a nine in the

942
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,040
next couple of years because
I'll be watching it more.

943
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,640
But for right now, I'll give it
8.5 S.

944
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,000
Well, let us know where you
think Fright Night should rank

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00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,680
on the rewatch ability nostalgia
meter.

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00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,600
You can send us an e-mail or
tell us on social media, or you

947
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,960
can leave a comment right here
on YouTube if you're watching us

948
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,640
on the on the YouTube channel.
Well, Chris, I appreciate you

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00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,440
joining me for this episode of
the 80s Flip Flashback podcast

950
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,680
and talk about Fright Night.
So I know you guys have been

951
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,040
covering some horror movies from
the 90s and the 2000s.

952
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,400
So, well, what did you 90s, 90s,
just 90s?

953
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,240
Well, Phyllis, and what have you
been talking about for the month

954
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,840
of October?
Well, we went, we went 90s this

955
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,000
year where last year we did more
80s stuff.

956
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,840
So this year we decided to go
along the lines of what we were

957
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,160
calling kind of like the 90s
teen flasher, kind of, you know,

958
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,720
rebirth of the slasher.
The resurgence of the.

959
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,400
Yeah, So we went.
I mean, this one might not be a

960
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,040
resurgence of a slasher, but we
did House on Haunted Hill.

961
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
We did.
Let's see, we did.

962
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,520
I know what you did last summer.
We've done John Carpenter's

963
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,000
Vampires.
Oh yeah, yeah.

964
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,280
You're going to make me, I'm
going to have to pull this up in

965
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,960
and tell you for certain I
should know this.

966
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,560
We just did it this month,
right?

967
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,600
It shouldn't be that hard to
remember all of them, the

968
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,280
faculty.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good

969
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,120
one.
And then what's coming out this

970
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,480
week is the last one there was 5
weeks, 5 Thursdays for us in the

971
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,160
month of October.
So the fifth and last one is to

972
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,720
me the most important one of the
90s that restarted everything

973
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,960
again.
And that was scream, the first

974
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,120
scream of.
Course, Yeah, yeah, I love the

975
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,880
Scream franchise.
Yeah, the good ones and the bad

976
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,120
ones.
The I love them all.

977
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,920
The thing about the first screen
movie is that it was so great

978
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,360
that you didn't know.
Every time you thought you had

979
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,920
it figured out, they swerved you
again and showed you like, yeah,

980
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,920
that's exactly what it's like.
Because you you're thinking it's

981
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,680
what it really is, Billy.
It really is Billy.

982
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,200
Then you're like, he was locked
up and the guy called again.

983
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,560
And then later, later, toward
the end, she says, who'd you

984
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,400
call with your one phone call,
You know, like, what is him

985
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,840
again?
You know, did you see the guy

986
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,280
committing, you know, kill him?
And you're like, no, it's not

987
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,520
him after all.
You're just bouncing back and

988
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,680
forth on who it can be and then
when you find out the ultimate

989
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,880
pay off the end, it was just
amazing.

990
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,240
A very well written story.
So yeah, we went with the 90s

991
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:38,280
and everything and we're done
with that.

992
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,000
Now we're moving on and we're
just going to start tackling

993
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,280
some of the regular movies
again.

994
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,920
I think come December we're
going to try and get a couple of

995
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,600
Christmas type movies in.
OK, so I say Christmas type.

996
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,360
I mean, it's like Christmas
time, maybe in the movie Batman

997
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,400
Returns.
It's like Christmas feel to it.

998
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,320
And we're we're supposed to get
Travis McKenna to come back on.

999
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,520
He's going to talk Batman with
us because he was one of the the

1000
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,400
killer clown things the Penguin
had.

1001
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:12,040
And then if, well, I don't want
to mention the other one because

1002
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,160
it might not happen and I don't
want to make myself look stupid,

1003
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,080
but you know, there might be
something else happening that

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00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,520
month.
All right.

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00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,360
Cool.
Well, stay tuned and definitely

1006
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,080
check out retro life for you
podcast with Chris.

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00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,200
He's always got some good
episodes and look forward to

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00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,160
what he's got coming up.
Still so well, if you enjoyed

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