#147 - "Evil Dead 2" with Nicholas Pepin & Laramy Wells

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Before director Sam Raimi
achieved major box office

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success with the original Spider
Man trilogy, he was primarily

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recognized as the cult filmmaker
behind the Evil Dead series.

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1981 Raimi and * Bruce Campbell
created The Evil Dead, offering

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their humorous and irreverent
take on horror featuring Ash, a

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clumsy fool being terrorized by
ghouls in a cabin surrounded by

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woods.
The film's success led to this

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80s flick sequel, which serves
as a pseudo sequel and a remake

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blending the grotesque style of
the first film with slapstick

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comedy that echoes Raimi's
fondness for the Three Stooges.

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Although Ashe appears in 1990s
Army of Darkness and the Stars

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series Ash versus Evil Dead,
which ran from 2015 to 2018,

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it's the first sequel that most
often represents Ashe's defining

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moment.
So join us at the creaky old

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cabin, turn on the reel to reel
recorder and strap on the

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chainsaw as Nicholas Pepin,
Laramie Wells and I discuss Evil

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Dead 2 from 1987 on this episode
of the 80s Flick Flashback

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Podcast.
Well, welcome in, everybody.

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So glad to have you on the
podcast.

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We're in spooky season and it's
time to talk about some scary

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movies.
And this one's kind of funny and

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scary.
More funny than scary, more

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scary than funny.
We'll find out.

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But welcome in.
I'm your host, Tim Williams.

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Tonight, we're joining you live
from the secluded cabin in the

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woods.
We found a mysterious tape

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recorder and we're about to open
a very strange looking book.

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What could possibly go wrong?
To help survive the night and

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battle the forces of the demon,
I've brought in two Co hosts who

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are, in a word, groovy.
First up, he's a man who's not

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afraid to look evil in the eye
and laugh.

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He's here to help us analyze
every insane slapstick frame,

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armed with cinematic insights
that are sharper than a chainsaw

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attachment.
Please welcome back from Pop

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Culture Roulette, the one and
only Nicholas Pepin.

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How you doing Nicholas?
All right, how about you?

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I'm good, I'm good.
And joining him as a man knows

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this is not just a sequel.
He's our expert on the dark

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passages of 80s horror and one
who can help us put the film's

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chaotic story back together,
even if it means a trip to the

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work work shed.
It's great to have him back from

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Moving Panels Podcast.
Mr. Laramie Wills.

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How you doing, Laramie?
I'm great, this is the greatest

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remake will ever made.
Remake will I like that one like

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that?
So we're talking about Evil Dead

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2.
Of course.

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Laramie and I covered the
original Evil Dead way back in

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what?
Maybe like season 1 or Season 2?

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It's been a minute.
Possibly.

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Yeah.
So, but this one I think is a

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little bit more well known I
think than the original or

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probably was seen more than the
original maybe, I don't know.

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Maybe Are we of darkness?
But yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
I mean there is 100% less tree

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rape but.
That is true, yeah.

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Even though I did get to that
one scene, I was like, they're

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really going to do this scene
again.

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So, yeah, so.
Well, let's let's jump right in.

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So, Laramie, when did you see
Evil Dead 2 for the first time?

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I can't pinpoint the exact year
it was back in high school

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though.
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And I think I told this story
way back when we did the Evil

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Dead episode.
I actually saw Army of Darkness

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first.
Yeah, I remember you talking

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about that.
Yeah, yeah.

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Because I, I was in, it was
either Blockbuster or it

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honestly could have been the
library.

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And I saw, I saw the DVD for
Army of Darkness and I was like,

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well, this looks cool.
And you know, I was fine.

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Like I said, I know it was late
college because I was probably

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17, just turned 18 or something.
You know, it was right when I

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could finally like, rent like
anything I wanted.

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Right.
And so I remember getting it and

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as I'm watching the opening of
Army of Darkness to do the whole

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kind of like they do in this
movie, you know, the whole

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explanation of what has
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And I'm sitting there going, I
think this is a sequel.

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So, you know, this is late 90s,
early days of the Internet.

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I'm getting on probably IMDb and
trying to find out and found out

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about them.
So hit the.

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Wait, did you did you get on a
web crawler?

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Was that like the one of the
first search?

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I may have asked Jeeves.
That's what I might have done.

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I might have got on Ask Jeeves
what is what is Army of the

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Darkness sequel?
To actually used Yahoo as a

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search engine.
Yeah, yeah.

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And then I and then I had to
find some distant video store

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that had it and print out my
MapQuest to be able to get

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there.
And yeah, and then I saw and

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then Evil, the first Evil Dead
became like my go to horror

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movie in college, like when when
there was a group of people that

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wanted to watch something scary,
I would go.

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Have you ever seen Evil Dead?
We're going to.

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And of course, I'm just staring
at them with the pencil to the

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ankle scene in that movie.
I'm just, I'm not watching the

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screen.
I'm watching them.

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Right.
Watching them react.

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But no.
Yeah, Evil Dead Two.

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Yeah.
I don't know if I'd say it's

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more known than the other ones,
but definitely the chainsaw hand

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is is definitely iconic.
And because you got to rethink

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even army of darkness, he only
has it for like the opening of

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that movie and then he replaces
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So this really is the movie that
he uses the chainsaw more so so

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but no high school high school
for me and this is AAI watch it

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anytime I get the chance movie.
What about you, Nicholas?

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First time watch.
You're going to find this hard

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to believe, but I also saw Army
of Darkness first.

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I'm noticing a pattern.
It was the bigger released

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movie, so.
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A homecoming 95.
So I was still in high school.

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The group of people that I was
with were like, this is lame,

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let's ditch it.
And we went to Blockbuster and

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rented Army of Darkness and went
back to one of the houses and

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and watched Army of Darkness.
And then I got to college and I

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had a roommate named Scott, I
remember.

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Scott, I remember.
Scott Scott opened my world to a

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a whole genre of movies that I
had never seen before.

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And he was like, you liked Army
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Have you seen Evil Dead or Evil
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And I'm like, I, I not So he
showed them to me and I was

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like, how did I not know these
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And it was amazing.
And yeah, I don't watch them as

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often, but I do really love, I
mean, I think I like Evil Dead

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Two more than Evil Dead, but
we'll, we'll get to that later.

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On yeah, yeah.
So I really don't remember if I

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ever saw this before.
I know I saw the the VHS cover

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and probably was too scared to
to rent it because like I said,

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I, you know this well, it's well
established on the podcast.

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I was not a horror movie watcher
as a kid, even in high school.

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I got a little bit into it, but
so watching it for the podcast

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might be my first time watching
it all the way through.

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But I was telling there me
before we recorded, like there

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were certain parts.
I'm like, was this in the first

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one or is it like retelling the
first one?

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But I feel like I've seen this
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So I don't know if I've just
seen clips of it here and there

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or if I did watch it one time
many years ago and just don't

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really remember it.
So this is this is very much a a

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first time.
It was much like a first time

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watch for me, so I could go and
say it's not going to rank high

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on the nostalgia meter for me
because I have no nostalgia for

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it.
Not as much as you guys do

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obviously, but how long has it
been since you rewatched it

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before rewatching it for the
podcast Laramie?

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I mean, I don't get to watch it
as often as I'd probably would

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like to just because I have
small children.

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But it's probably been two or
three years since I've seen it.

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Because it definitely is.
You know, I, I know you have

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Jerry D on the show a little bit
and he's usually one of those

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like I watch it every year.
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Honestly this would probably be
one that if I could I would

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watch it every year but and hey,
as my my daughters get older

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that will eventually become a
thing.

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So what about you, Nicholas?
It's been a little bit.

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I live with a wife that doesn't
like Bruce Campbell as much as I

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do.
I'm sorry.

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So I don't get to watch that
stuff as often.

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And I just, you know, like I
just don't.

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I don't unlike Jerry, who
watches apparently the same

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movie year after year, I don't
tend to watch.

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I mean, now if you go back to
college, when I used to watch

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like Billy Madison, like every
weekend that you know, but you

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know.
Different time of life.

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Different time of life.
I just, I got so much else I

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want to watch, but I every time
I watch it, I'm just like, oh,

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this is so good.
Yeah.

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So no, no rewatch for me.
Like I said, I think this might

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have been the first time I saw.
It at least not yet.

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Yes, yeah, I mean, I'll, I'll
definitely watch it again.

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I mean it's it is fun and it's,
you know, we'll get it.

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Well, we can talk about it now.
Like it it is trying to kind of

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balance that zany.
I would even like even more than

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Three Stooges, like even like
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Like it's almost like that kind
of ridiculousness that you have

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really more at the begin or the
boot, the beginning then towards

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the end, even though it does,
it's still kind of there.

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But Oh yeah, it's it's it was
fun.

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It was to fun rewatch.
Like it's this would be a hard

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one to like watch Evil Dead and
then go right into Evil Dead 2

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because they are so kind of
similar.

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Yeah.
Change of tone though.

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Yeah, a change of tone is very,
very evident.

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So.
So yeah, I would definitely

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watch.
If I had to choose within the

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two to watch, I would probably
watch this one again just

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because it's more funny and kind
of a little bit more fun and

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lighthearted, even though it's
still very gross and you know.

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That's what makes it work.
The fact.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
So over the top.

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Yeah, exactly.
You just you lean into.

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It so chaotic and so just you
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they toned it like the first
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I enjoyed as a movie and as a
horror movie but it's not as

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rewatchable as the second one
because like the over the top

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like makes it almost more like a
horror comedy like Tucker and

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Dale or something like that.
Where like leaning into the

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gore, leaning into the crazy
camera work makes it work and

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makes it.
And you can tell the budget is

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bigger, so you can tell he's
able to do more that I think he

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wanted to do in the first one.
He just couldn't afford to.

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So he kind of like where he
where he couldn't go that far in

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the first one, he really goes
for it even more in the second

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well.
That's that's when you have a

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movie studio paying for it
instead of some dentist.

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Yeah, yeah.
Although then you then you

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forget you're actually on a set
and not in an actual cabin.

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Yeah, Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

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Because I mean, you might have
this later, but but there's the

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scene where he's being chased by
the evil dead and you can see

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like that.
There's no, no ceiling.

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There's no roof, right?
You can see the stage lights.

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You can see the rigging.
It's like, Oh yeah, we forgot.

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We're we're on a set this time.
There are definitely a couple of

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scenes with some shots where
it's like, oh, you can totally

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see the wire that he's hanging
from, like at the.

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End when he's spinning.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, so, but but it's still
fun, you know?

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All right, well, let's let's
jump into story origin and pre

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production.
This was a little longer than I

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thought it was going to be, so I
tried to shorten it as much as I

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can.
So before the fake blood had

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dried on the first film,
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an idea.
Working with his publicist, they

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dreamed up a story so wild it's
hard to believe Ash gets sucked

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through a time portal to the
Middle Ages to fight more

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deadites.
They then advertised it the

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title Evil Dead 2.
Evil Dead in the Army of

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Darkness, yeah, was a mouthful,
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medieval epic was dead.
Instead, Raimi and crew went off

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to make a film called Crime
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It didn't go so well.
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audiences, Crime Wave was a
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some I'm sorry.
Raimi and producer Rob Tappert

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and * Bruce Campbell found their
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were desperate.
They had to make an Evil Dead

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sequel.
They found a lifeline.

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Or so they thought with Embassy
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But after five months of pre
production, things weren't going

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very well.
Around the same time, the

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legendary producer Dino De
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directing a Stephen King
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Raimi turned him down.
But that connection, it would

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change everything.
De Laurentiis was making a lot

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of Stephen King movies of the
time, and King himself was busy

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directing Maximum OverDrive,
which Laramie I've talked about

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extensively.
One night, King went to dinner

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with a crew member who just
happened to have been

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interviewed for the Evil Dead
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The crew member mentioned the
film was stuck, unable to find

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funding.
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loved the first Evil Dead.
His Glory review is what helped

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put it on the map.
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He picks up the phone, calls
Dina De Laurentiis personally

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and tells him you have got to
fund this movie.

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De Laurentiis de la, I cannot
say that name.

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De Laurentiis was skeptical, but
then Raimi and Tappert showed

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him the box office numbers from
Italy, the first film that had a

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monster that hit there. 20
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done.
De Laurentiis agreed to finance

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the film for $3.6 million.
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Raimi wanted 4 million to make
his medieval epic, but De

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Laurentiis said no.
He wanted a film just like the

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first one, a real sequel.
That Army of Darkness idea, it

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would just have to wait.
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The script was mostly written
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Crimewave.
Ramey brought in his old

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childhood friend Scott Spiegel.
They grew up making Super 8

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comedies and Spiegel had a big
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The first film was horror.
This one should be a comedy in

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the name of saving money.
The five original characters in

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the first film, they didn't come
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All except for Ash and Linda.
They even had a draft where

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escaped convicts take Ash
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But you have to picture where
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Raymond Spiegel were living in a
house in Silver Lake, CA with

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the Coen brothers, Frances
Mcdormand, Kathy Bates and Holly

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Hunter.
Yeah, that house.

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Imagine trying to finish a
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So where did where did all that
insanity come from?

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2 words. 3 Stooges.
This wasn't just horror, it was

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going to be slapstick.
That iconic brutal fight Ash

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with his own possessed hand that
came from a Super 8 film Spiegel

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made as a kid called Attack of
the Helping Hand, which was

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inspired by the Hamburger Helper
commercials.

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The legendary laughing room
scene where the deer head, the

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lamp, the books all come to life
and cackle it.

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Ash that happened because
Spiegel was goofing around with

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the gooseneck lamp, making it do
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It all clicked.
And that influences everywhere,

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right down to the film's most
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Ash family finally traps his
rogue hand under a pile of

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books.
The book on top, a farewell to

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arms.
So yeah, so that's how it got

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made.
But let's talk about.

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Go ahead.
No, I was just going to say, I

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know this was probably in your
research, like you said, you

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shortened it up.
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because of course it's very
confusing if you don't know the

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story, to watch Evil Dead Two.
Yeah, and there's Ash and Linda

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going to the cabin.
Back to the back.

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Yeah, they're like, why would
they be going?

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Wait, and didn't she die in the
first year?

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Like, yeah.
And to find out that it was

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because since Raimi wanted to
get Evil Dead made, he pretty

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much sold it away.
Yeah, I think to New Line.

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I could be wrong.
Yeah, yeah.

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I think New Line owned the the
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And so they couldn't make it a
true sequel because they they

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couldn't connect it to that
story.

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So that's why they pretty much
just retold the entire first

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movie in our with less people.
Yeah, in an abbreviated version.

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Yeah, at the beginning.
But but what's interesting

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though, did they had, you may
know this because I don't

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actually did they reshoot the
shot of the Evil dead coming

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through the cabin and then going
straight into ash?

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No, I think that did they.
I thought I read that they read

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that.
That was redone.

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That's what I'm asking if they
had to reshoot it because it

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looks exactly like the one from
the end of the first movie.

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It is a little different is they
did reshoot a lot of it.

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I know that like they were
saying like one of the popular

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rumors are urban legends is that
Bruce Campbell like hurt himself

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in the exact same way he did on
the first one.

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And they're like, no, we did it
slightly better.

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He only kind of injured himself
the second time instead of

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instead of broke his jaw or
whatever it was that he did on

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the first one.
That glorious chin that British

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Campbell has.
Well, I also read that that was

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that was a rumor that they
made-up to be a fun story, but

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he actually didn't get hurt.
So depends on which story you

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read on the Internet, but yeah.
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But it wasn't even the same
cabin.

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Like they filmed in a completely
different cabin.

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Yes, for this one.
And like you said, most of it

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was done in, I think it was an
old gymnasium.

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They built the the set in an old
school.

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So yeah, you can tell.
You can tell a lot of it is like

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a studio.
It doesn't have that same like

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real cabin feel like the first
one did.

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Because the first one was in
like backwoods Michigan and that

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one was the second one was
somewhere in like.

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They did.
North Carolina.

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Yeah, I think in the same
general region they have filmed

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Maximum OverDrive.
It wasn't too far because that's

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how like the the crew member
was, you know, trying to do both

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movies around the same time.
But I know it was the same town

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where they where Steven
Spielberg came like he had

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filmed Color Purple in the same
area because they were talking

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about there's a few like
landmarks that you can see in

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both movies. 2 totally different
movies, of course.

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Very.
Different movies.

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Oh yeah.
But yeah, it was N they filmed

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this one.
They filmed the the exterior

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shots in North Carolina, but I
think pretty much all the

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interior shots were done in the
studio, so which I don't think

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was in North Carolina.
I think we were in Tennessee if

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I remember correctly.
Yeah, I think there's something.

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I do remember something.
The first one or the second one

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is connected to Tennessee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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All right.
Well, let's jump into cast.

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Of course I'd say cast.
But like, if this is Bruce

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Campbell's movie, I mean, it's
Bruce.

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Campbell and then a bunch of
people who were in this movie,

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yeah.
Yeah, yeah, we'll, we'll hit it.

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We're going to hit these really
quick.

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So a Bruce Campbell, of course,
is Ash.

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We covered him in the Evil Dead
episode.

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We love Bruce Campbell.
Of course, he's made a cameo in

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every Sam Raimi movie.
So if you're a fan of Sam Raimi,

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as I know Laramie is, you will
find him pop up in all those

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movies.
But he's so good in this though.

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I mean, just the comedy, the,
you know, the physical, the

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physical, physical comedy for
sure.

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Yeah.
And I think they said the only

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stunt that he did not do was him
falling down the stairs or when

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he gets caught on the stairs and
falls like face first.

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But everything else was him.
Yeah, because pretty much it's

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Sam Raimi saying, hey, Bruce, I
want to make a horror movie.

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I'm pretty much going to torture
you for 90 minutes.

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Sounds good, let's do it.
Versus like Groovy.

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Yeah, groovy.
All right, so next are the list

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of names that we don't know.
I've never heard before.

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Sarah Berry as Annie.
She's a writer and actress known

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for Evil Dead 2.
She loves sequels because she

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did CHUD 2, butt of the CHUD in
1989.

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She actually quit acting after
making CHUD 2, so that that's

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the extent of her filmography.
Then you've got Dan Hicks as

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Jake, best known for his roles
and this Darkman and Intruder.

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So Darkman, of course, another
Sam Raimi movie.

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OK, Then we got Cassie Wesley as
Bobby Jo.

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She's known for playing the
roles of Chelsea Reardon on the

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CBS soap opera Guiding Light
from 86 to 91.

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She was also on the soap opera
One Life to Live from 93 to

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2013.
And then she moved over to NBC

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to be on Days of Our Lives from
2/20/14 to 2020.

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So she loved the soap operas.
But believe it or not, and we

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mentioned some famous names
earlier, but she was in her

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character was actually inspired
by Holly Hunter, who was the

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house made of Sam Raimi in the
early 80s along with Joel Cohen

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and Frances Mcdorman.
As we mentioned earlier, one

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particular incident inspired the
character.

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Hunter was auditioning for a
hooker part and when it was

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unusually made-up and wearing a
sexy short skirted outfit, she

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became angry at Raimi when he
somewhat leered at her.

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Raimi pulled for Hunter to play
the part, but the producers

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wanted someone quote UN quote
sexier.

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I don't think any of the ladies
in this movie were sexy at all.

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So not ugly by any means, but
not like not sexy like you would

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expect.
I mean like most horror movies

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have like those.
You know the big the true eye

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candy female roles.
That's funny, eye candy.

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That's that's funny.
I try.

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Sorry.
Made myself laugh again.

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Then we got Denise Bixler as
Linda.

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Nothing on the filmography.
I do have one fun fact that I

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just had to put She was married
to Steve Guttenberg from

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September 30th, 1988 to 1992.
So yeah, so there's her.

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There's her claim to fame, then
you've got Lou Hancock that that

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is a female Lou Hancock as
Henrietta.

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She earned A substantial cult
following and praise for her

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characterization of Henrietta in
this movie.

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She retired to Fort Worth, TX
where she landed a recurring

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role on Walker, Texas Ranger as
Mabel Shoop, the county clerk

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and C JS love interest after
three seasons.

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Go ahead, I.
Was just going to say, let's be

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clear, she is the human
Henrietta.

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Yes, I'm going to get to.
Go to the zombified at any rate

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to say yeah.
So after three seasons, she was

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offered a contract for a
position as a permanent cast

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member on the show.
She signed the deal, but soon

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died of multiple Maloma before
she could earn the last credits.

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So very sad for that.
But but yes, as Larry mentioned,

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the zombified Henrietti
Henrietta was actually played by

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Sam Raimi's brother Ted Raimi.
He was forced to wear an

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extremely heavy full body latex
suit with the addition of eye

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lenses and fake teeth.
The only part of Ted's the

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audience can see is his tongue
when the mouth is open.

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The shooting location in
Wadesboro, NC was going through

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a heat wave at the time and a
combination of this in the

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cumbersome suit made the
production extremely difficult.

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He would quickly become
overheated and profusely sweat

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in the suit.
The special effects team would

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have to pour the liters of sweat
out of the suit into Styrofoam

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cups at the end of the shoot.
Every day and the climax of the

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film, the sweat can be seen
pouring out of Henrietta's ear

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when she's flying through the
air attacking Annie.

448
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,320
Viewers can see it at the bottom
of the screen when she turns to

449
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,160
ash and screams.
There's a rumor that the effects

450
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,800
team somehow used and collected
sweat in their horrendous prank

451
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,840
on Ted on his last day in the
suit.

452
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,680
I won't even ask what that was,
but yeah, so.

453
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,920
But there's the cast.
Brought up about Bruce Campbell

454
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,360
being making cameos in Sam
Raimi's movie.

455
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,040
So does his brother.
Yeah, his brother does too.

456
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,920
Yeah.
And the car that's driven at the

457
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,240
beginning, The Oldsmobile.
I feel like that's something you

458
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,000
can do to your brother, but you
can't do a lot of other actors.

459
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,480
Hey, you know what?
You're going to be in this

460
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,720
movie, but I'm going to wrap you
in an unrecognizable suit and

461
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,520
then torture you almost as much
as I'm torturing Bruce.

462
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560
Right.
Yeah, I mean, but that's what,

463
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,160
Oh my gosh, I This is why I
shouldn't be on a trivia team,

464
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,720
because I can't think it's my
name at the right time.

465
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,600
Guardians of the Galaxy.
What's his name?

466
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,080
James Gunn, James Gunn and Sean
Gunn.

467
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,080
You know you're going to.
I know you're 6 too, but I want

468
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,040
you to play Rocket, who's
literally like 2 1/2 feet tall.

469
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600
No, not the voice.
I want you to actually be the

470
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,960
guy you're just going to.
Be down on your hands and knees.

471
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,120
And the body.
And then the Suicide Squad,

472
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,160
you're going to be a weasel that
we'll do that too.

473
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,120
Yeah, he did get some
redemption.

474
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,160
He got to be his own character
in the last one, so that was

475
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,160
good.
Yeah.

476
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,240
Well, and he's getting to be
Maxwell Lord in the new DC, so

477
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240
that's a pretty, pretty
impressive role.

478
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,920
So looking forward to that all.
Right, I'm going to ask this

479
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,720
question.
I'm sure I'm going to hear the

480
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,200
answer.
I'm expecting anybody from the

481
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,440
cast that I missed or want to
talk about.

482
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240
I mean, I feel like you listed
the entire cast.

483
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,280
What if?
Actually, I did not, I was going

484
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,400
to had like nothing, but they're
they're, they're like there for

485
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,320
a minute and they're gone.
Like they're, they're so like

486
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,240
there's two professors like in
that one scene at the beginning

487
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,320
and it's like, and you never see
them again, so.

488
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,320
And then there's the And then
there's the, the medieval people

489
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:25,880
at the.
End.

490
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,720
Yeah, at the very end, yeah.
Yeah, that's yeah.

491
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,120
And then there's the voice of
the professor, and he's.

492
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,440
Dead 50 per 6050 to 60% of this
movie where it's just Bruce

493
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,880
anyway.
Yeah, Bruce, Bruce and Bruce,

494
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,120
because he has a couple scenes
where he's talking to himself

495
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:48,560
and fighting with himself.
So yeah, well, let's talk iconic

496
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,840
scenes already.
I think we're all going to be

497
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,080
pretty much the same on this
one.

498
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,640
So if someone says to Evil Dead
2, what's the first thing that

499
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,960
pops in your head?
I'm going to go to Nicholas

500
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,440
first on this one.
I mean, we've already made

501
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,680
reference to it, but when he,
yeah, the, well, one scene leans

502
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,920
into the other, but the, the,
the fight scene with the hand,

503
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,960
when he, when his hand goes evil
and he has to fight it, that is

504
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,400
one of the first thing.
And then, you know, he cuts it

505
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,520
off and then he builds himself
the chainsaw and, and he, you

506
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,800
know, when he fires it up, he
says groovy.

507
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,640
And like, I think that just goes
on to become Bruce Campbell's

508
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,080
like catch phrase anyway.
So I mean though, I mean, but

509
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,200
yeah, that fight scene or he
fights his own hand, it is just

510
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,280
sublime.
It is pure.

511
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,520
Brilliance.
Great physical comedy,

512
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,200
especially this.
He's crashing the plates over

513
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,600
his head and then his hand sees
the butcher knife.

514
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Then he spends the rest of the
movie fighting his own hand.

515
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Yeah, I love my my.
Yeah.

516
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:54,920
All right, we'll get.
We'll get there.

517
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,080
What about you, Larry?
Same.

518
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560
Same scene.
Well, honestly, just to, to

519
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,320
break the mold a little bit.
Me personally, yeah.

520
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,680
When you say Evil Dead, I
actually think of when he's

521
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,560
laughing along with the house
and he does that little dance

522
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,320
with the, the lamp, the desk
lamp, and he's, you know, goes

523
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,640
up and down with it.
That that honestly, is what pops

524
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,240
into my head.
OK, All right.

525
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,160
That's cool.
Yeah.

526
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,520
Yeah.
I mean, like, to me, it's the,

527
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,560
it's the, it's him, you know,
putting on the chainsaw and then

528
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,320
cutting off the, the make him
the, the shotgun, you know, the

529
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,320
yeah.
And putting it back.

530
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,600
Yeah.
Like that's just so cool in the

531
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,320
groovy.
But I'll just say my favorite,

532
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,880
my favorite part with the hand
is when the hand is like

533
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,040
crawling over to like the hole
in the wall, then it gives him

534
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,440
the finger like that.
Just maybe I was like, that was

535
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,720
funny.
That was that was a good one.

536
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,200
So I what about favorite scenes?
Henrietta Devil is swallow, your

537
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,160
swallow, your swallow.
And then he pulls out the

538
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,200
shotgun and says swallow this.
Yeah.

539
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,920
I mean, yeah, I already
mentioned what I actually, if I,

540
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,520
if I'm going to say just a
favorite scene.

541
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,280
It's not one that we've already
talked about.

542
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:07,040
When after he thinks he has
killed his hand and then you

543
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:14,680
just get the huge like fire
hydrant blast of blood hitting

544
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,320
him.
That's one for me.

545
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Of course I know, I know you're
going to bring this up, and you

546
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,440
would have brought this up in
the trivia, but I got to mention

547
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,320
it now, too.
I don't care.

548
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,520
Every time I watch this movie,
if I'm watching it with someone

549
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,880
that I know does not know this,
I hit pause.

550
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,320
The moment I can go, there's
Freddy's glove.

551
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,000
Yeah, yeah.
And then proceed to tell them

552
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,440
the reason why Freddy's glove is
an Evil Dead too.

553
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,560
Yeah, I think I left it out of
my notes because I think we

554
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,000
talked about it in the first
episode, because the first

555
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,400
episode has The Hills Have Eyes,
yeah.

556
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,320
There's the Hills Have Eyes
poster, Yeah.

557
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,520
And then Freddie puts an Evil
Dead poster, or well, that's.

558
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,520
Watching Evil Dead right now,
yeah.

559
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,440
She's watching Evil Dead, So,
yeah.

560
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,280
So there was like a continual,
like, back and forth that they

561
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,680
did.
So, you know, acknowledging each

562
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880
other's films.
So what are the scenes you got?

563
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,560
I mean, this whole movie I could
just, I mean, there's.

564
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,800
Just so much scene on it.
I mean, well, I will say it's

565
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360
not necessarily a favorite
scene, but like the cabin

566
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240
dimensions at the beginning you
talked about when you could see

567
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,360
the IT was on the set make no
sense.

568
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680
No.
Like he's running and all the

569
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,320
like, he's running and running
and running and all of a sudden

570
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,960
there's crawl spaces and then
they, they zoom out to the cabin

571
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,840
and it's like a 2-3 room cabin.
And then like there's just,

572
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,040
yeah.
And like there.

573
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,840
And you know, I, it wasn't until
I was re watching it this time

574
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,320
that I really truly understood
that the first like 7 minutes of

575
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,600
this movie are supposed to be
just a recap of the first one.

576
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,920
Because I always just was like I
was like this is just a remake.

577
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Well, now that I know that word,
I'm going to use it.

578
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,320
Exactly.
So I always just figured like,

579
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,840
this is just a straight remake.
I don't know why they didn't

580
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,640
call it Evil Dead.
Something other than two, you

581
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,040
know, because like I, I didn't
catch the fact that it was

582
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,800
supposed to be like, oh, that
was them going to the cabin and

583
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,640
this is Jim picking them,
picking up like the next day

584
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
after he's already dealt with
the events of the first movie.

585
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,760
Because there's a lot of other
people.

586
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,920
Well, not a lot of other people,
but there are other people

587
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520
involved in the.
First movie.

588
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,520
Yeah.
Yeah, So, yeah, symbol is like,

589
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,960
she's like, I had this on notes.
He said you can call it a

590
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,560
sequel, you can call it a
requel.

591
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,640
It's whatever you want to call
that.

592
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,200
If you really want to do it
right, you take the first Evil

593
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,800
Dead up to where the evil entity
hits me, cut off all the recap,

594
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,240
go right into ash being thrown
through the trees at the

595
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,440
beginning lands and that's when
it all makes sense.

596
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Yeah, that's when.
It becomes a sequel.

597
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,800
So.
And if you were confused by

598
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,320
that, just watch it again.
Didn't say I was confused by it,

599
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840
I just you.
Know I'm just on our general

600
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,440
general listeners, but hopefully
you're listed this episode.

601
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,440
You're a fan and you've seen it.
So if not, stop right now and go

602
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,960
watch it and then come back.
And that's the great thing about

603
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,640
this trilogy is that you can
actually watch any one of these

604
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,840
3 movies by themselves and you
are you are seeing a full movie.

605
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Now I will say Army of Darkness,
it might take you a minute to

606
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,480
realize what the crap's going
on, but but you could sit there

607
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,800
and watch it and not have to
have seen Evil Dead or Evil Dead

608
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
2, especially Evil Dead 2,
because they do show you the

609
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,880
clips from the end of Evil Dead
2 at the beginning of Army of

610
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Darkness.
Yeah.

611
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,320
I mean 2/3 of this podcast did
watch the army of darkness 1st

612
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,160
and didn't didn't seem to be
affected by the.

613
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Right, right.
Fact.

614
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,760
It wasn't, yeah.
It wasn't until like later on

615
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,280
that I was like, wait, there's
sequels.

616
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,960
I mean like this was the third
in the trilogy.

617
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,360
Yeah, so I I know I've never
seen Army of Darkness, so that's

618
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,440
next on my list.
So.

619
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640
Sadly that was a 92 release so
we never get to do it for your

620
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,800
show.
No so, but I make the rules.

621
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,960
We'll see what happens.
All right, let's jump into some

622
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,720
scenes in trivia.
Maybe it'll make us think of

623
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,960
some other or some trivia, maybe
think of some other scenes.

624
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,680
So let's see.
I think we talked about that

625
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,800
already.
Well, well, I'll mention this.

626
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,760
So we talked about the cabinet,
supposed to be the same as the

627
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,480
one from the first Evil Dead.
The move.

628
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,600
That movie was shot in
Morristown, TN.

629
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,360
So Evil Dead 81 was Tennessee.
The sequel was filmed nearly 270

630
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,520
miles to the east in Wadesboro,
NC.

631
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,360
Most of the film was shot on a
set built inside the gymnasium

632
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,640
of Wadesboro Jr.
Fake Faizon Junior High School

633
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,040
financier Dino Dino De
Laurentiis had originally

634
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,080
offered a studio in Wilmington,
NC, but director Sam Raimi chose

635
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Wadesboro, a three hour drive
away, fearing that being so

636
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
close to his office would lead
to studio interference.

637
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,200
So not not to choose go there
yet.

638
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,000
And didn't the first cabin burn
down like the original cabin?

639
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Yeah.
So during the scene where the

640
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,920
severed head of Linda bites
Ash's hand, Bruce Campbell says

641
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,760
the single line workshed.
This line was later re dubbed in

642
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,840
post production due to the
quality of the audio, giving it

643
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,040
a strange, slightly
disproportionate sound to the

644
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,160
audio.
Nine years later while filming

645
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,160
his cameo and escape from LA in
1986, the first thing Kurt

646
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Russell said to Bruce Campbell
on set was say workshed.

647
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,440
It's awesome.
I thought that was good.

648
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Yeah, what?
What?

649
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,480
Before I read the trivia.
Watching it this time, I caught

650
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,920
how weird workshed sounded.
I'm like that must have been

651
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680
some ADR.
Right there, Yeah.

652
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,840
I just chalked it up to, I mean,
it was an 80s movie.

653
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,160
There's always bad ADR in an 80s
movie.

654
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,760
I talked it up to that too.
I didn't think anything more of.

655
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,000
It the large demonic head Ash
battles in the climax of the

656
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,480
film, which the crew nicknamed
the Rotten Apple Head, was too

657
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,800
large and cumbersome for the
crew to carry back to

658
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,280
California, so was left in North
Carolina and soon disappeared.

659
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,440
Its whereabouts were unknown for
a number of years until it was

660
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,280
found in a Halloween haunted
house attraction just outside

661
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,719
the original shooting location
of Wadesboro, NC.

662
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,639
So they're going to find that.
I don't know if it was a side

663
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,600
note I'll make.
May not may not keep this in the

664
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,920
episode, but I just saw a news
thing today that one of the

665
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,480
original Scream masks, like the
Ghostface killer mask, a girl

666
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,480
found in a thrift store and paid
like 5 bucks for it, but she

667
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,679
just ended up like not one to
wear it for Halloween.

668
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,719
So she was going to resell it
and she posted the picture of

669
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,360
like the inside where it was
like labeled whatever the

670
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,120
company was that she didn't know
that's what it was.

671
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,840
She made $800 on eBay on the
mask.

672
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,880
So I'll be going to.
Those things ever happened to

673
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,480
me?
Yeah.

674
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,400
So let's see, the dagger is
another one of the many weapons

675
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,400
from the first movie that
returned here, although it has

676
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,680
been revamped.
The dagger in the first Evil

677
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,760
Dead was an iron blade with a
skull adorning the hilt.

678
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,760
This one seems like a real skull
with the attached spine serving

679
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,600
as the blade.
Which default was a cool weapon

680
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,960
in there?
Well, a mini.

681
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,400
A mini skull with a giant spine?
Yeah.

682
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,520
All right, so many scenes were
deleted from the movie, and

683
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200
according to official reports,
all of them and the original

684
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,800
version of the movie are lost.
Some of the scenes are Henrietta

685
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680
is in her rocking chair while
the professor reads the

686
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,880
incantations.
Her demonic eyes are unveiled in

687
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,320
the cabin's light.
Linda's severed head throwing up

688
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,920
black bile on Ash when trapped
in the vice, which is why black

689
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,840
slime suddenly appears around
her mouth in the final scene.

690
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,400
Linda's severed head extending
its long snake like tongue into

691
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,480
Ash's mouth while in the rocking
chair.

692
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,360
An extended take of the Blood
flood with green and yellow

693
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,520
blood.
An extended sequence of the half

694
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,760
headed Ed running after the
characters and is eventually

695
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560
chopped to pieces with its body
parts flopping on the floor.

696
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,960
A possessed Ash eating a
squirrel as he runs after Annie

697
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,440
and Ash's demonic face morphing
back to normal after taking his

698
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,120
dead girlfriend's necklace.
Fans of the movies did manage to

699
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,160
find a rare 36 minute work print
of the film which only has very

700
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,800
early versions of opening and
ending scenes and a few extra

701
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,640
shots, including an old rare TV
version of the movie which many

702
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,160
alternate extended scenes, but
unfortunately does not include

703
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,880
all the famous deleted scenes.
So I got a question, did did you

704
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,320
find out anything about the
prosthetic that the one dude

705
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,840
wears where he's got like the
multiple rows of teeth?

706
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,760
If I did, I didn't put it in my
notes.

707
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,480
Yeah, because that had to been
extremely uncomfortable.

708
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,560
Yeah.
And then he swallows part of

709
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,040
the, I forgot her name, the
country girl, like, actually

710
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,280
like, eats part of her hair,
Right?

711
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Yeah.
He like I'm like, did he

712
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,000
actually swallow that hair?
Yeah, there's.

713
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,200
Was it me or was there a lot of
like hair, like pulling of hair

714
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
or like eating of hair?
Like hair seemed to be like a

715
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,960
weird fixation in this movie.
Was that just me?

716
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,040
I don't know, you might have.
That might be a problem Tim that

717
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,200
you I.
Don't really say that's.

718
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,080
I might have noticed you.
Got a hair?

719
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Fetish or something?
Not for me, no, but anyway, OK.

720
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,240
No, I didn't.
All right, this was cool.

721
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,840
Evil Dead 2 was very popular in
Turkey.

722
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,720
In Istanbul, although it was
playing in two cinemas on the

723
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:38,600
same St. simultaneously, it was
still shown for over 2 months.

724
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,880
Its success led to the release
of its predecessor, The Evil

725
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,360
Dead in 90, which had been
denied a release until then.

726
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,360
Like many foreign movies in
Turkey at the time, the dialogue

727
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,480
was dubbed.
Inexplicably.

728
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Some dialogue was dubbed into a
scene where there's no actual

729
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,280
dialogue.
The scene where Ash fights his

730
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,240
own possessed hand.
Although the original audio only

731
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:03,120
has grunts from Ash, the Turkish
dubbing had him saying things

732
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,560
like what is this thing inside
of me who is taking control of

733
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400
me, making his, making me his
slave in Turkish.

734
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Of course, the same dubbing was
also used in subsequent video

735
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,040
releases where the movie was
equally popular.

736
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,280
I just thought that was
hilarious.

737
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,720
While Ash's story continued on.
An Army of Darkness film makers

738
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:25,160
in Italy decided to commandeer
the Evil Dead franchise name for

739
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,760
their own benefit and with no
real regard for copyright law.

740
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,360
In 1988, director Umberto
Lindsay released Ghost House

741
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:37,440
under the title Evil Dead 3.
The film, which centers on a

742
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,720
group of friends terrorized in
an abandoned house, has no

743
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,680
connection to Raimi's movie, nor
does not It's Witchery, which

744
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,680
was released in some territories
as Evil Dead 4 and features

745
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,480
David Hasselhoff going up
against a witch.

746
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,760
The 1990 movie Beyond Darkness
was also known as Evil Dead 5

747
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,120
and again centers on a spooky
residence, torment against

748
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,640
occupants, lifting Raimi's, and
textually property.

749
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,480
Not very groovy, but I just
thought that was hilarious.

750
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,040
I actually did think I had heard
that about the Ghost House one.

751
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,720
Like, OK, I don't think I knew
about the other two, but when

752
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:17,400
you said Evil Dead 3 Ghost
House, I was like, Oh yeah, I do

753
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,760
think I remember hearing about
that.

754
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,880
You got to love when they do
stuff like that.

755
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,400
Or International Film making.
Like the original film, Evil

756
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,840
Dead 2 had censorship
difficulties due to its high

757
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,760
level of violence.
Because DEG was a member of the

758
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Motion Picture Association of
America, was contractually

759
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,640
obliged to shoot the film with
the intention of it earning an R

760
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,840
rating.
Upon reviewing the completed

761
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,480
film, D e.g.'s
executive felt that Evil Dead 2

762
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,760
would almost certainly receive
an X rating, which will limit

763
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,080
its commercial prospects.
Lawrence Gleason, the company's

764
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,280
president of marketing and
distribution, felt that they

765
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,320
would be cut for an hour.
The film Quote UN quote would be

766
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,200
about 62 minutes long and that
both Raimi's vision and the

767
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,880
audience's enjoyment would have
been sabotaged as a result.

768
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,720
Ultimately, DG decided not to
submit Evil Dead 2 to the NPAA

769
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,880
for review or be credited on
screen for their involvement in

770
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,440
it.
Instead, Rosebud, I'm Sorry,

771
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,320
Rosebud Releasing Corporation, a
shell company run by De

772
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,840
Laurentius's son-in-law Alex,
was set up to handle the film's

773
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,360
US release, allowing it to be
shown unrated.

774
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,080
Although Rosebud technically did
not have a distribution network,

775
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,240
DG had already booked the film
in 340 cinemas across the

776
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:34,960
country, and it created a pay
and had created and paid for the

777
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,640
film's advertising campaign.
Rosebud's logo a rose blooming

778
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,440
in time lapse photography
against a painted sky backdrop

779
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,640
that was designed and shot by
Sam Raimi.

780
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:54,520
And I love that the shot when
Ash is driving that it is, I

781
00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:00,320
think it's Sam Raimi hanging off
of another vehicle with a 2 by 4

782
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,000
and the camera, because the he's
using the 2 by 4 to push all of

783
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,920
the limbs and trees and bushes
and all that.

784
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,800
Yeah.
But it's just him just hanging

785
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,440
on to a like a some sort of
vehicle I think, which is just

786
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,000
insane.
Just the gorilla filmmaking type

787
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,800
style.
Yeah.

788
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Going over the bridge.
Yeah.

789
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Yeah.
But again, that's also, that's

790
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,600
also something they did in some
of those classic like 3 Stooges.

791
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,800
Oh yeah.
You know, if they showed a, you

792
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,520
know, a establishing shot of a
car driving, it was usually like

793
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,800
a little toy car you're going
across something.

794
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,640
So it's very was very fitting
for the style of movie.

795
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,880
But I also love how once the
Evil Dead hits and it apparently

796
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,880
tears that bridge apart, that
both both sides of the bridge

797
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,840
look identical.
Yeah.

798
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,760
Well, you know, demons got to be
efficient in what he does, you

799
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,440
know?
Wait, it rips them apart, rips

800
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,960
them.
Perfect symmetry.

801
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Takes pride in what he does.
Yeah.

802
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,600
So I will say like what I really
didn't get into favorite scenes,

803
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,360
but I I had I admired the stop
motion effects, like especially

804
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,680
there at the beginning with the
like the skeleton of the

805
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,480
girlfriend kind of dancing and
stuff.

806
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,360
Like, I know it's very dated
now, like it seems like it seems

807
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,920
very old school, but I still
appreciated it.

808
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,280
Like it was still it.
It was fun to watch.

809
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Like it's not necessarily scary,
but it's just a great art form

810
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,680
that's just fun.
Yeah.

811
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,880
It's just fun to watch.
Of course it makes you think of

812
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,440
like Tim Burton and the things
that he's done with stop motion,

813
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,240
but.
But yeah.

814
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Does it not bother either one of
you though, that her head and

815
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,880
her body didn't?
Quite go.

816
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,000
No, Yeah, it did not.
Not only not only were they just

817
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,560
miscolored, but the proportions.
Very, very much.

818
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,240
Not right.
Didn't make sense.

819
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,600
Yeah, well, when you become
possessed, you see how put

820
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,240
together you look.
Like.

821
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,960
I will say though, like Bruce
Campbell's face as the demon.

822
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,600
Super cool.
Yes, that is super cool.

823
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,960
He yes and and what I hate is
they completely ruin that look

824
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,760
in Army of Darkness.
Oh, really?

825
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,920
OK.
Yes, they they yeah, I won't too

826
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,840
much.
But he he becomes possessed in

827
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,800
Army of Darkness and they decide
to do something a little

828
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,720
different.
Different.

829
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,920
Yeah, yeah, no, but the look,
yeah, the look, the prosthetic

830
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,040
they put on Bruce Campbell and
the look he has.

831
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,160
I'd.
I'd like to know how they really

832
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,000
did that eye effect.
You know, when the when he he

833
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,440
becomes normal again, you see
the the white wash out of the

834
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,280
eye?
Like was the entire thing fake?

835
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,360
Like I couldn't tell if it was a
real eye or if it was a fake eye

836
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,760
and it was just some sort of
gimmick.

837
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,760
I didn't read anything about
that.

838
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,840
I do know, I thought I read that
they they filmed a lot of this

839
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,680
stuff One Direction and then
just ran it backward.

840
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,400
In reverse, yeah I know they do.
The the tree attack scene in

841
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,080
both the 1st and the second
movie was done that way where

842
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,720
they wrapped her in the stuff
and then pulled it off of her.

843
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,160
In the eyeball, in the mouth.
That was done in reverse too,

844
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,040
like she spit it out and.
Going back though, could you

845
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,880
imagine if that actually was
Holly Hunter?

846
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,080
Academy Award-winning Holly
Hunter.

847
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,880
Right, right.
Taking an eyeball to the mouth.

848
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,360
Yeah, sure.
So, well, she had to be eye

849
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:40,600
candy.
All right, let's talk about box

850
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,840
office.
Evil Dead Two opened on March

851
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:48,000
13th, yes, Friday the 13th, 1987
to an unimpressive weekend gross

852
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,920
of $807,000, but it was only
released in 310 theaters at the

853
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,080
time.
However, after spending a little

854
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,160
over a month in theaters, it
ultimately grossed $5,000,000,

855
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,600
almost $6 million worldwide.
So wasn't a huge.

856
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,560
Strong word of mouth on that
one, yeah.

857
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,520
I think it debuted at #14 it
never cracked the top 10, but it

858
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,000
stayed in like the top 20 for a
good couple of weeks.

859
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,280
So but it just, it never broke
into like major theaters or

860
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,440
better theater changes.
To be fair, a movie like this is

861
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,600
never going to to make a ton of
money in the movie because

862
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,600
there's just a fair amount of
people who won't watch this kind

863
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,640
of movie anyway.
Yeah, yeah.

864
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,800
I mean, people like us who just
enjoy be, you know, schlock

865
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,240
fest, you know, we're going to
flock to it.

866
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,840
But you know, you're you're, I'm
not going to say average person,

867
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,600
but there's a fair amount of
people who like, I'm thinking

868
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,680
about my parents like they would
never willingly watch this

869
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,960
movie.
Yeah, I don't see this is a big

870
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,080
family night on Thanksgiving.
Like, OK, gather family round,

871
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,200
we're all going to watch Evil
Dead 2 after having Turkey.

872
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,440
But yeah, maybe you do.
I don't know.

873
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,560
I did.
Maybe I'll bring it up this

874
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,000
year.
See Start watching the Cowboy

875
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,480
game this year instead of
watching the cowboy game this

876
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,320
year.
Let's watch the Lions.

877
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,440
Let's watch Evil Dead.
Oh man, yeah.

878
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,440
But yeah, I will say, like, like
I said, I would watch this again

879
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,840
and we're we're kind of moving
into rewatchability and

880
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,000
nostalgia meter, but I think I
have to be in the right mind

881
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,160
mindset for it.
Like it's not just the normal

882
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,440
one that I would just pop in
for.

883
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,680
There's like a popping in.
I'd want to be kind of be in the

884
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,320
mood for that type of that type
of movie that come in a comedy

885
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,320
and horror mixed together.
But you know, not to say it's a

886
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,040
bad thing.
It's just it's just one of those

887
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,360
movies that has that kind of,
you kind of have to be in that

888
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,120
set that mind, mind frame to
kind of or mindset to watch it

889
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,640
at least.
Maybe you dudes.

890
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,400
Yeah.
My my mood to watch Evil Dead 2

891
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,640
is I woke up.
That's my mood all.

892
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,880
Right, well now it's time to
take a look at how well this 80s

893
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920
flick holds up.
Today, the all new Rewatch

894
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Building Nostalgia Meters our
way of measuring how enjoyable a

895
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,400
movie is for repeat viewings
along with the waves and

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00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,560
nostalgia brings.
Here's how it works.

897
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,720
It's a one to 10 scale.
Any number between 1:00 and

898
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,000
10:00 will do.
Here a few parameters to help

899
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,560
you decide.
At the bottom of the meter and

900
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,360
#1 basically means you saw it
once and that was enough.

901
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,840
Right at the middle.
At #5 is a good rewatch every

902
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,440
couple of years or so, and the
highly sorry and the highly

903
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,800
coveted Top of the meter #10
highly rewatchable and full of

904
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,240
nostalgia.
So I'll start with Nicholas.

905
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:30,000
Nicholas, where does Evil Dead 2
land for you on the rewatch

906
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,600
ability and nostalgia Meter 8?
You're coming right off the gate

907
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,360
with it.
I'd give it an.

908
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,600
Eight.
Oh yeah, just.

909
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,480
I've given it an 8.
It's frantic camera work and

910
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,520
over the top gore works.
It's cheesiness makes it

911
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,600
glorious.
He came prepared.

912
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,240
I like it there.
You go.

913
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,960
Cool.
What about you, Laramie?

914
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,880
I'm I'm going to have to go like
8 1/2.

915
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,600
Wow, that's lower than I
thought.

916
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,560
Well, I'm not going to put it
out of 10 because it it is.

917
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,920
It is a movie that again at me
as a father of small children,

918
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,440
like I can't watch it as as
there the rewatch ability is

919
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,840
kind of hindered by that.
But but man, yeah, this movie is

920
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,640
so much fun.
You know what?

921
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,600
I'll make it a nine.
Let's make it a nine.

922
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,280
Yeah, I can watch that.
This is one of those movies and

923
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,280
there's several, there's several
of these movies for me that I

924
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,840
can watch over and over and over
again.

925
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,840
I never get tired of it.
I am quoting half the movie.

926
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:38,040
You know, I, it's just I, I and
then the fact that you, I know

927
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,160
what is to come, you know, with
Army of Darkness.

928
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,920
I, I'm such a huge fan of Evil
Dead just in general.

929
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,080
I mean, I played the PlayStation
games.

930
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:53,600
I own the PlayStation games.
You know, I, I own Ash versus

931
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,120
Evil Dead the Stars series.
You know, I've got the special

932
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,040
editions of both Evil Dead and
Evil Dead 2 that were released

933
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,080
like inside of a Necronomicon.
Oh yeah.

934
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,160
We've got one of those.
Yeah, I hate though that they

935
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,800
were made out of such cheap
material.

936
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,000
They over.
Yeah, mine's starting to crumble

937
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,560
a little bit.
Yeah, crumble and fall apart

938
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,320
even no matter how well you took
care of them.

939
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,680
But yeah, I mean, love this
movie.

940
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,200
I'm, I'm not not saying it's one
of the greatest movies ever

941
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,240
made, but it is one of the most
fun movies to watch.

942
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,360
And yeah, that's right.
Who's laughing now?

943
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,120
I think I think with my one of
the podcast partners I have has

944
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,200
my copies of the Evil Dead or
he's an Army of Darkness.

945
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,160
I can't remember a versus
Nightmare on Elm Street versus,

946
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,080
you know, you know, Ash versus
Freddie or whatever that comic

947
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,640
book.
Freddie, Freddie versus Jason

948
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,240
versus Ash, yeah.
That one, yeah, I've got that

949
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:51,560
right.
I think he has it right now

950
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,040
because I would lend it to him
and he just hasn't given it

951
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,240
back.
But I own that.

952
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,760
Well, I used to anyway.
I don't.

953
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,120
I might not own it anymore, but.
It was once in my possession.

954
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,840
Yeah, for me, they even did.
Go ahead.

955
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,840
Sorry, I was just going to say
it because they even did like a

956
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,640
few like just straight up Army
of Darkness like comics.

957
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,040
I don't want to say they even
they no not want to say they did

958
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,360
this.
They tied Marvel Zombies in and

959
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,960
they did a mash up of Marvel
Zombies with Army of Darkness.

960
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,560
So yeah, no, I, I don't believe
I actually do not own those

961
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,520
comics, but I would love to own
those.

962
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,400
Yeah, so for me, like I said,
the beginning of this wasn't one

963
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,040
that I have a whole lot of
nostalgia, nostalgia for.

964
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,200
Like I said, I definitely
remember seeing the VHS cover at

965
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,800
the video store, but never
really, you know, was brave

966
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,200
enough to watch it.
So it's going to go lower for

967
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,520
me, but I still get like a 6.5.
I think, you know, it's I would

968
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,720
rewatch it.
It has it has rewatch ability,

969
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,680
it just, you know, it doesn't
doesn't go very high for me for

970
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,480
nostalgia, but but yeah,
enjoyable, worth watching, worth

971
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,080
watching every couple years.
Once I see Army of Darkness and

972
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,680
kind of see the full trilogy, it
might bump up some more for me.

973
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,280
So.
You just brought it up and we

974
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,240
haven't talked about it yet.
What's that?

975
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,360
VHS cover of Evil Dead 2.
Yes, is a skull with eyeballs.

976
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,320
That's not not in the movie at
all.

977
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,880
At at no point at any version.
Neither is the cover of the

978
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,800
first one with the woman.
Sticking her hand out of the

979
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,640
grave.
Your hand out of the yeah being

980
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,320
like pulled in.
That's a little closer to what

981
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,760
happens in the movie than this.
There's no skull.

982
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,920
There's no, you know, there's an
eyeball.

983
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,440
But.
Yeah.

984
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Yeah, who cares?
Marketing at its best.

985
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,880
Let's Let's show you what we
think you want.

986
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,800
To see it's a great cover, Yeah,
I mean.

987
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Gets your attention the 80s.
Horror movie, like VHS covers,

988
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,320
is a lost art.
That is true.

989
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,040
That is true.
Well, even even when you get to

990
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,520
the cover for army of darkness,
where it kind of kind of mimics

991
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,680
that style of like Star Wars,
right, And where where I'm

992
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,040
pretty sure it's a it's actually
a, a piece of art.

993
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,680
It's not a picture, but you
know, he's and it it also, it

994
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,720
also looks like the like the
Fabio, like romantic covers

995
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:14,040
because he's got the ripped
shirt and the woman's on the

996
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,000
ground laying up against his
leg.

997
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,240
Yeah, these are some there's
some great covers.

998
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,080
I actually have the original
Evil Dead poster down here in my

999
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,080
basement.
But yeah, I wouldn't mind having

1000
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,040
the rest of them either.
Those are some great.

1001
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,040
Covers all right, well, let us
know where you think Evil Dead 2

1002
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,680
should rank on the rewatch
ability and nostalgia meter for

1003
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,080
you.
Send us an e-mail or reach out

1004
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,080
to us on social media.
You can leave us a comment right

1005
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,720
here on YouTube if you're
watching the podcast here.

1006
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:44,800
So well, thank you, Nicholas,
and thank you, Laramie for being

1007
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,520
a part of the podcast.
We're in October.

1008
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,240
What's going on with your
podcast, Laramie?

1009
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:52,480
What's going on over it?
Moving panels for the month of

1010
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,720
October or the end of October at
this point.

1011
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,360
Yeah, yeah.
So we hit our our scary ones a

1012
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,720
few weeks ago.
We did our we did an episode of

1013
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:06,200
The Empty Man, probably a lesser
known horror movie that people

1014
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,320
may or may not be familiar with
from, from the COVID year of

1015
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,440
2020, but it is based off of a
short series of comic books.

1016
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,960
And then Tim and I actually
discussed the, the week of

1017
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Halloween.
We discussed some dark origins,

1018
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,640
you know, some of the heroes and
villains that just have, you

1019
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,160
know, what would essentially be
story and fodder for a Horror

1020
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,640
Story or a ghost story or, or
something to talk about.

1021
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,520
So some fun, fun times there.
Always enjoy.

1022
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,160
So with that and then over at
King Size, Tim and I, Tim joined

1023
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:46,520
me for a discussion of a the
1990 miniseries of Stephen

1024
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,320
King's It.
Yes, so we've got that over on

1025
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,000
at a King Size right there on a
Halloween.

1026
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,120
Awesome, lots to check out.
What about you Nicholas?

1027
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,480
What's going on over a pop cult
roulette?

1028
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,400
I know you did some Stephen King
episodes.

1029
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,240
Recently I did, we did 2 Stephen
King episodes where we talked

1030
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,720
about 1 episode.
We, well, we did the normal

1031
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:08,480
bracket thing that we do and
ended up having too many movies

1032
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,680
for one bracket.
So we figured we'd just divide

1033
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,000
it in half because there's all,
there's enough to do 2 brackets

1034
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,960
with an even number.
So we were like, these are the

1035
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,720
top half.
This is the bottom half.

1036
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,400
And we debated if you know the
podcast, you, you, I mean, you

1037
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,760
will be shocked by who won the
best bracket.

1038
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,960
But if you know the podcast, you
won't be.

1039
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,400
And then you'll be less
surprised by who won the worst

1040
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,560
bracket.
But yeah, we had a lot of fun.

1041
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
And then we did an episode on
urban legends.

1042
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,200
Yeah, we did.
We did some spooky urban legends

1043
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,080
like the James Dean Carr and
then we did some just fun urban

1044
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,560
legends and then we got a little
dirty there at the end like we

1045
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,880
like to do.
But you know, that's what we do.

1046
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,800
We we we have a lot of fun with
Stephen King and then we get

1047
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,720
Dirty I.
Will cool.

1048
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:55,720
We'll definitely check out those
episodes on your favorite

1049
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,440
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panels and pop culture roulette.

1050
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,440
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1051
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