#142 - "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors" (1987) with Nicholas Pepin & Laramy Wells

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The Nightmare on Elm Street
series had a reputation in the

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movie business as sort of a high
rent answer to the Friday the

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13th saga, and this third entry
of the franchise lives up to the

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billing.
It's slick, it has some

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impressive production values,
and the acting is appropriate to

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the material.
This one focuses on a teenager

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experiencing vivid and
terrifying nightmares about

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Freddy Krueger, who eventually
find herself admitted to Weston

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Hills Psychiatric Hospital after
a nightmare results in what

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appears to be a suicide attempt.
There, she discovers she's not

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alone.
Several other patients are

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plagued by the same dream demon,
so grab your nodos pills, drink

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plenty of coffee, and whatever
you do, don't fall asleep as

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Nicholas Pepin, Laramie Wells
and I discuss A Nightmare on Elm

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Street 3 Dream Warriors from
1987 on this episode of the 80s

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Flick Flashback Podcast.
Welcome in everybody to the 80s

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Flick Flashback Podcast.
I'm your host Tim Williams, and

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tonight we're checking into
Western Hills Asylum.

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And to face down the
illegitimate son of 100 maniacs,

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I brought in two of my very own
Dream Warriors.

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First up, he's a man whose film
analysis is sharper than

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Freddy's glove.
Please welcome from pop culture

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roulette, Mr. Nicholas Pippen.
How you doing Nicholas?

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All right, got me some Diet Coke
and can of Sanka.

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I'm ready to go.
Good old Sanka.

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I missed that instant coffee
flavor.

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Yeah.
And then joining him or joining

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us is a podcast where you can
navigate the boiler room of 80s

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horror without breaking the
sweat from moving panels.

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Our very own wizard master, Mr.
Laramie Wells.

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How you doing Laramie?
Yeah, this, this is a safe talk

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only room, right, right, right.
OK, got to make that clear.

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Every time you yes, you start
these conversation.

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So we're in the middle of our or
coming to the end of our Summer

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of sequels series and the first
two weeks of August, we decided

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to take on some of the horror
sequels.

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We last time we, Nicholas and I
tackled Halloween three season

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of the Witch, and I'm so
thankful to talk about a much

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better horror movie now with a
Nightmare on Street 3 Dream

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Warriors.
So let's jump right in.

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I'll start with Nicholas.
When did you see Nightmare on

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Street 3 Dream Warriors for the
first time?

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So right around the time that
they announced they were going

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to do Freddie and verse Jason, I
was like, hey, I'm going to

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actually watch all of the Friday
the 13th and Nightmare on Elm

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Street movies.
So around 2002.

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OK.
I, I grabbed, I went to

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Blockbuster and rented as many
as I could and then got on this

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thing called Netflix.
I don't know if you've ever

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heard of it or not.
It must be a new.

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Company coming out.
Brand brand new company and

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nobody had ever heard of before
and I started renting movies off

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of off of Netflix where you know
they would send movies to my

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house.
Yeah.

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All scratched up and everything.
Oh yeah.

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What about you, Laramie?
It was on television.

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Come on.
OK, anybody listens to this?

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I honestly couldn't tell you
exactly when, but I know it was

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on television.
I know it was probably in the

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90s, early 90s, possibly when I
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it on TV without my parents
saying anything.

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But yeah.
But I mean, this, I'm just going

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to go and say it.
This is my favorite next next to

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A New Nightmare, but you won't
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So I'm going to go ahead and say
New Nightmare is my favorite.

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But but yeah, love this movie.
Love this movie.

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Yeah, so I'm kind of like you.
I don't know when I saw this.

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I know I didn't see any of them
in the theater.

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As I we talked about previously,
I wasn't a big horror movie fan,

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but when I did get into the
horror movies in middle school,

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which would have been late 80s
or like early, yeah, late 80s,

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is when I kind of got into A
Nightmare on Elm Street.

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So, and going back and watching
this one, I think this might

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have been the first one I saw.
I think it.

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Was for me too.
Yeah, coming out in 87, I was

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going into high school in 89.
So it's probably about the time

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that I, you know, started
watching these and so, but if

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it's not the first one, it's
definitely the one that I've

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seen the most because I
remembered more of this than

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even going back and watching the
first one a couple of years ago.

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So how long has it been since
you rewatched it before

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rewatching it for the podcast
Laramie?

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Probably a a couple of years.
I I typically like to watch the

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Friday the 3rd or not the Friday
the well.

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Those two, but all of.
Them both the Friday the 13th

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and the Night round Elm Street
movies like pretty regularly.

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You know, those are my go to
horror movies.

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So it's probably been a couple
of years.

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Again, it is hard to watch those
with having small children,

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right?
Yeah, right.

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I try to find my time to watch.
Yeah, what about you, Nicholas?

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About two years ago I did, I did
this movie for Freaky film club

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as part of our Halloween, you
know, 30 for 30 or 31 for 31

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Halloween stuff with media pod
smash pop culture roulette.

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So I, I actually, I've actually
covered this one on a podcast

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before, so.
This is old hat for you.

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Yeah, I think for me, I think
after we did Part 2, Freddy's

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Revenge, Nicholas and I did that
one think last year, I think I

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went ahead and rewatched this
one again.

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Had to clean your palette so.
You can see you can see where

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the series got back on track.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, exactly.

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So, So yeah, I'd say probably
within a year of watching it.

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But there's like so that so many
scenes that I just remembered

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like even before they happen.
So this is coming up.

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So I know it wasn't because I'd
watched it, you know, within the

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last couple years, but it was
because I'd seen this one a lot

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more than the others.
So all right, let's jump into

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story, origin and pre
production.

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Following the critical failure
of Nightmare Elm Street 2,

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Fray's Revenge, New Line Cinema
was unsure if it would continue

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with the series.
Wes Craven, who wrote and

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directed the original 1, did not
participate in the second film.

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As we discussed on that episode,
he didn't want to.

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Yeah, he didn't want the
original to evolve into a

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franchise.
But due to immense

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dissatisfaction with Freddy's
revenge, he signed on to Co

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write the screenplay for the
third installment with the

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intention that it would end the
series.

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Boy did it.
Or not.

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Craven's first concept for the
film was to have Freddy Krueger

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invade the real world.
Kruger would haunt the actors

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filming a new Nightmare on Elm
Street sequel.

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New Line Cinema rejected the
idea, but years later it was the

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concept they brought for, as
Larry mentioned, Wes Craven's

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New Nightmare, which I cannot
say.

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I like both of these so much.
Yeah, I don't think I've seen

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that one, so I'm looking forward
to re watching that one.

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So before the script was
finalized in 1986, John Saxon,

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who played Nancy's father and
Robert England wrote their own

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scripts for 1/3 Nightmare film.
In Saxon's script, a prequel

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story called How the Nightmare
on Elm Street all began.

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Freddie is ultimately innocent,
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murders by the main culprits,
Charles Manson and the Manson

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Family.
Freddie is for Freddie is forced

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by a mob of angry parents to
confess to his crimes, which

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enrages them further.
After lynching Freddie, he comes

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back to avenge his wrongful
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children, no?
Thank you.

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Yeah, it was called Freddie's
Funhouse.

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The protagonist is Tina Grey,
who was played by Amanda Wiss in

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the first movie.
Her older sister, who was away

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at college when Tina was
murdered and returns to

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Springwood to investigate how
she died.

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Freddie had claimed the 1420 Elm
Street house for his own in the

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Dream World, setting up booby
traps like Nancy did in the

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first one against him.
According to England, after the

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script had been unused for
years, part of it was used in

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the episode No More Mr. Nice
Guy, which was actually the

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pilot episode of Freddie's
Nightmares TV show.

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See.
That one sounds a lot better and

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would have been a little more
entertaining than whatever John

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Saxon was trying to do, but, you
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But Freddie?
Yeah, Freddie set up his own

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little booby traps.
Can we talk about the rewrite

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by?
Yes, probably one of my favorite

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directors.
Yes.

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So we're getting to that right
now.

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So yes, Wes Craven has said
about the franchise's guidance

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that he and Bruce Wagner, he
said that we decided would no

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longer be one person fighting
Freddie.

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It had to be a group because the
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made Freddie stronger.
He also called Heather

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Langenkamp to ask if she would
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character in the script, which
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In interviews with cast and crew
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revealed that the original idea
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kids separately traveling to a
specific location to die by

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suicide.
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common link between the youths
was that they dreamed of Freddy

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Krueger.
Since suicide was a taboo social

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issue, the storyline was
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the idea remained in the film.
I would say it's still pretty

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heavy in the film in my opinion.
The script also described the

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ranch house where Kruger was
born and that is the house that

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shows up in the kids dreams
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house.
Wes Craven specifies the house

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in the original script to be an
architectural portal to

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Freddie's dreamscape.
It is a virtual it's, I'm sorry,

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it is virtually A limitless
world of the human psyche in all

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of its dimensions.
So you can enter this other

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world to the House of dreams or
madness or hallucinations or

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special psychic states that
various people have.

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All right, so in his version,
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start that Kruger was real and
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Kruger was missing and Nancy
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When she finds him, Nancy learns
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finding the house where he was
born so he could burn it down.

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The deaths in this script were
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Kruger was not as talkative, but
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Freddy is killed by Nancy by
using his own glove, not not by

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holy water, as she sees through
his shape shifting trick.

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I'm gonna read that again.
Freddie is killed by Nancy by

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using his own glove, not by holy
water, and she sees through his

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shape shifting trick even though
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Chuck Russell states that
Craven's original script was

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darker and more profane, and
Rachel Talalay thought the

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script seemed like a $20 million
script discussing the more

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humorous elements in the film.
Russell said.

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I looked at that series,
obviously, so I looked at what

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Wes Craven did and said, this is
absolutely great and terrifying.

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But I felt by the time I came
along on three, the way to go

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was to make the whole idea of
dreams and nightmares in the

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carnival and go further into the
dreams and make Fred Krueger

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more outrageous and add more of
an element of dark humor that

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worked in the series when in
that direction from then on.

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That was a lot.
So all right, I'm getting there.

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I know I'm Laramie is waiting
patiently to get there.

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So Joseph Rubin was the studio's
first choice to direct the film,

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having already directed the
similarly themed Dreamscape in

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84, but was forced to decline
because he'd already signed on

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to direct The Stepfather in 87.
Instead, he recommended the

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Dreamscape Co writer Chuck
Russell for the job.

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Chuck Russell made his
directorial debut at the movie,

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but the original script by Wes
Craven and Bruce Wagner needed

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work because it called, like you
said, for a $20 million budget

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to pull all the effects.
Even though Russell and Frank

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Darabont scaled it back
considerably, it was still

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ambitious for a $4.5 million
budget that they got.

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So if you'd recognize that name,
Frank Darabont, he became a very

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famous director and directed
Laramie.

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Shawshank Redemption of the
Green Mile.

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Yes, The Majestic.
Yes.

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The Mist.
Yes, so.

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And this was his very first
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beginning of his career.
So amazing.

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Amazing how people start in
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So, yeah.
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So they, they, he act him.
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that Russell and Darabont, like,
locked themselves up in like, a

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hotel room or like a cabin for,
like, a whole weekend and tried

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to, like, put the put the story
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original script, but they had to
give it more of a storyline.

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But because it was ambitious,
the result was an incredibly

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tense set, not a particularly
ideal setting for Patricia Ket

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Arquette, who made her film
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of filming, the production was
already so behind.

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They didn't get to her scene
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she had got so tired she forgot
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It took 52 takes of her feebly
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they simply fetter the lines
through cue cards behind the

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camera.
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experience for her and Russell
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too hard.
So, yeah, so that is how we got

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Part 3.
But Craven, I did.

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It's not in the notes, but
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was planning to direct, but he
was already in production for

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Deadly Friend, I think was the
name of it.

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That also came out in 87, which
I don't know that one at all.

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Yeah.
But he also thought they were

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going to take his script and he
thought he would get notes back

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like he thought he would get a
do another rewrite.

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He wasn't.
He didn't expect it to be the

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final version.
So he was a little surprised

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when he found out they gave it
to somebody else to rewrite.

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Actually, he didn't even know
they were giving a producer and

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a writing credit until the movie
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So he was, even though it was
his original story, he was kind

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of left out of the production
all all together, which is kind

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of sad.
Can we talk about Chuck

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Russell's like good maybe 8 year
run before he just tanked as

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director?
You can't.

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I didn't go too deep deep into
his filmography, but go ahead.

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So, you know, he directed the
remake of the BLOB, like, which

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came out like the very next
year, which is actually a pretty

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good, you know, monster B movie.
Yeah, remake like it's actually

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pretty good.
But then he would be.

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He's the director of the mask,
which is what I typically

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remember.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So he directed the mask, but
then he directed Eraser with

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Schwarzenegger.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Yeah, he directed the Scorpion
King.

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OK.
Yeah.

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And and and then.
I don't know if he's directed

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anything since I.
Mean those are pretty big hits,

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yeah, So I'm surprised.
Was the Scorpion King a hit

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though?
Yeah.

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It was, it wasn't as big as The
Mummy and it's not as well loved

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as the first two Mummy movies,
but yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It made The Rock a movie star
for sure.

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Yeah, sure.
I have to go.

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Yeah, that's the way go away.
But that's back when The Rock

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had hair.
It's funny to watch his movies

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back when he first started and
he he had still had his receding

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hairline.
Yeah, so often you watch one of

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those old ones and you're like,
why?

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Why does he look so?
Oh, that's right, hair.

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Yeah, yeah, I think go back and
find some old Statham movies

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when he had a little bit of
hair, like the first Transporter

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movie, think he had a little bit
of hair too on the top of his

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head.
Not much.

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Not much the.
Rock had the Rock had a little

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more.
Yeah, Statham was always kind of

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bald.
Yeah, his was a much closer buzz

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cut.
So, all right, totally off

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topic.
There we go.

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It's still.
Still though, this is the guy

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that directed the mask but then
also directed the Scorpion King,

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Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, hey, that's better

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than Yeah, we've we've, we've
mentioned some other directors

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here recently.
They had some pretty bad movies

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they they followed up with.
So he didn't do too bad.

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So all right, let's jump into
casting.

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I won't talk about 3.
The three returning cast

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members, of course, Heather
Langenkamp as Nancy, Robert

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England as Freddy Krueger, and
John Saxon as Nancy's father

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Donald or the sheriff, I guess.
So if you want to go back and

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hear their filmography, you can
go back to our Nightmare on

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Street, the first episode or the
first entry.

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But for as far as the new cast,
there's a lot of them didn't do

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a whole whole lot.
Of course, we'll talk about

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Patricia Arquette, who did
probably is the biggest star of

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the new cast, but.
Well, there is that orderly.

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Oh yeah, and of.
Course that did fairly well for

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himself.
Some guy named Larry First

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Fishburne.
He looks all like Laurence

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Fishburne, but I'm not sure if
the same guy.

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Yeah.
This was this was after him

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being like Cowboy Curtis, Yeah.
I kind of forget about him

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because he's in the beginning of
the movie and then he just

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completely disappears from the
movie, which I'm sure he

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probably got fired after not
telling them about the girl that

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ended up in the TV because he
left in there.

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Anyway, we'll get there.
So all right, we'll part of the

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new cast.
Craig Wasson as Doctor Neil

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Gordon made his film debut in
Roller Coaster 1977.

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He's best known for this movie
and Jake Scully and Brian De

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Palma's body double and that's
it.

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OK.
So then of course, we got

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Patricia Park.
I'm confessing her name,

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Patricia Arquette as Kristen
Parker.

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As we mentioned before, this was
her feature film debut.

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She has since starred in several
critically acclaimed acclaimed

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films including True Romance in
93, Ed Wood in 94, Flirty With

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Disaster 96, Bringing Out the
Dead in 99, and Holes in 2003.

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For her role in Boyhood.
In 2014, she won an Academy

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Award for Best Supporting
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Robert Inglot admits he knew
that she would go on to be a big

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star one day.
He also explained how all the

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guys on the set were head over
heels in love with her between

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takes.
Some of them would even go up to

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him to ask his advice on whether
or not they should ask her out

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or not.
So all.

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Right.
Good old Patricia Arquette, of

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course.
Sister of Rosanna Arquette, The

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Arquette sisters.
And then, if you didn't know,

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Winona Ryder auditioned for the
role of Kristen, but director

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Chuck Russell thought she was
just too young for the role.

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So instead we casted somebody
who was 30, yeah.

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Yeah, she's yeah.
Yeah.

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All right, going down the list.
Well, let's talk about it.

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So what did you think?
So for that being her first film

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role, I think she did pretty
good.

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I mean, she was, she was a good
anchor for the for the movie, I

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feel like.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not really

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that much a fan of Patricia
Arquette.

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Like I feel like she's pretty
much the same and everything.

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Yeah, yeah.
And it clearly started with this

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movie.
So I don't know.

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I could take a reliever.
It's not, it's not like I'm

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going to like when I see you're
in something, I'm not like pass

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and turn it off immediately.
Like, I'm not like I don't go

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out on my way to watch Patricia
Arquette.

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I mean, you pretty much summed
up like all of the arquettes,

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like like I'm pretty all of the
Arquettes pretty much are the

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same character.
And everything.

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That they are, yes, but at least
at least David is is

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entertaining.
That's true.

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So mostly.
He's well, I will say if you've,

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if you've seen David Arquette in
an interview, he's much more

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tame in the parts that he plays.
Like, he's a complete wild card

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in real life.
Like he's kind of real, kind of

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fidgety and just very, yeah, a
very interesting fellow.

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But like, when you watch him on
screens, like he can really be

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under control.
Like, you don't, you don't see

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that in his regular, like,
interviews and stuff.

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So yeah.
But he does typically play, like

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the same.
Well, he'd be he turned into

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playing the same type of
character as his early roles.

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He was kind of wild and crazy,
wasn't he?

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Trying to go think back to some.
Early, yeah.

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What are his early roles?
You know, all I think of is is

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mainly, you know, the scream are
ready to rumble.

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Ready to rumble, I think is what
I'm talk.

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Thinking about like the
wrestling movie.

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He was kind of wild in that, but
he was really young too, so.

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That would have been after
Scream though.

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Yes.
Yeah, yeah.

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What was that one was that?
Cannibal, I mean, Buffy the

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Vampire Slayer was like one of
his early roles, but he's he's

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goofy in that.
Blanking.

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On Freaks.
Oh that's a good one.

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I'm blanking on the cannibal
movie it was set in like

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Hannibal in the set in the
1800s.

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Him and like Guy Pierce and.
Oh, oh, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'm.
Blanking on the name of it all

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of a sudden.
Oh, I know, I know.

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As soon as you said Guy Pierce,
I know exactly what movie you're

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talking about, but I can't think
of it was like Ravenous.

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Yes.
Ravenous.

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Yeah, yeah.
I enjoyed him in that one.

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I mean he he has some range but
he is limited and I think it's

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because of his off.
Persona.

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Oh yeah.
Yeah, people will don't

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necessarily want to, you know,
get involved.

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All right, well, moving right
along, we got Ken Segos, I think

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as Roland Kincaid.
He's best known for this movie

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as well.
He's also in the sequel, Part 4,

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The Dream Master.
He portrayed Daryl in the TV

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show What's Happening Now.
He made guest appearances on

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shows such as The Twilight Zone,
Night Court, My so-called Life,

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Martin, The Parkers, The
Division, and The District.

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Apparently when he came to his
audition he was soaked because

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of a storm and the casting
department was a few hours late,

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which understand understandably
irritated him.

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When he came into the room Chuck
Russell told him do whatever you

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want to do for the audition.
So then he cussed out the

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director and basically said FU,
which helped him get the role.

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Awesome.
Just just wanted to see some

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rage.
Just wanted to see some rage.

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Then we've got Rodney Eastman as
Joey.

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Joey's the one.
I couldn't remember any of their

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names, so I had to write down
who they were.

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Joey's the one that couldn't
speak.

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He really didn't do anything
after this movie but one little.

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He was in the sequel.
Yeah, well, there's a few in

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this.
He was in the 4th 1.

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OK, Yeah, yeah.
So of course, in this one, he

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has a weakness for women.
Freddie used it against him or

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to trap Joy.
He takes his dream to make one

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of the nurses at Weston Hills is
seducing him.

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The actress Stacey Alden, who
also did nothing after this

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movie, had to take her shirt off
for the scene.

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But the film makers tried 1
scene where she was actually

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wearing Freddie's makeup.
The image of Freddie with a

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woman's chest just looked too
silly when they filmed it, so

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they scraped the idea all
together.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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I don't think that was something
I would want to see.

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I don't want to see it.
All right then we got Jennifer

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Rubin as Taryn who was the
recovering drug addict.

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She followed Elm Street three
with Bad Dreams in 88, permanent

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record in 88 with Keanu Reeves.
She was also in The Doors Oliver

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Stone biopic and by the mid 90s
she was Co starring in films

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such as The Crush in 93 with
Carrie, Elvis and Screamers in

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1995 with Peter Weller.
As we mentioned she was

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recovering drug drug addict in
the movie when Freddie used it

448
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,080
against her with his iconic
needle fingers.

449
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,440
Her power in the dream world was
to be you know look good and be

450
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,560
bad.
So when Freddie attacks her she

451
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,040
battles in with two
switchblades.

452
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,240
When England and Ruben were
filming the scene, Ruben got a

453
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,800
bit too 100 apart and actually
stabbed England with the knife.

454
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,800
The knife was great, actually, a
prop knife, but still getting

455
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800
stabbed in the rib still
probably wasn't a pleasant

456
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,600
experience for England.
Also, when she dies, her head

457
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,880
was supposed to explode, but the
effect wouldn't work, so they

458
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,680
just had to move on.
Yeah, I do notice that scene

459
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040
like you see, like the blood
vessels or whatever, her head

460
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,400
like start to get big.
So I could see how they were

461
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,720
probably going for that.
But.

462
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760
And she's told that some of her
fans, I'm sorry.

463
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,200
She said that she heard from
some of the fans of her

464
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,800
character.
They told him that that seeing

465
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,520
her in the movie helped him to
quit drugs.

466
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,800
But she's very proud of that
fact.

467
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Yeah, yeah, because I do know
that scene and I want to say

468
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,520
that I don't, I won't even name
a country, but I do know there's

469
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,360
like a country or two that that
that scene caused problems

470
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:25,400
because they thought that it
actually promoted the use of

471
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,160
drugs.
How would you think that scene

472
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,920
causes?
Yeah, that's what that was.

473
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,880
My thought too, is I was like,
that's kind of the exact

474
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,920
opposite of the scene, like, so,
yeah.

475
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,000
So I was glad to hear because I
heard that same thing too, that

476
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,560
she's talked about, that it's
actually helped people, which I

477
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,000
could definitely see like that,
you know?

478
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,560
Yeah, scare you straight on
that.

479
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,160
And I did like they included the
scene of like the orderly or

480
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,200
whatever that was trying to, you
know, get her to go, you know,

481
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,760
to relapse, whatever.
And she was very strong about

482
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840
like, no, but I'm not that
person anymore.

483
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,240
So I like that they didn't, they
didn't make it seem like that's

484
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,920
what she really wanted, you
know, like she was, you know, so

485
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,400
she was strong and Freddy, you
know, God took over.

486
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Because I I will say that even
though to be honest, I know you

487
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,880
haven't gotten to to the other
dream dream warriors yet, but

488
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,440
hers isn't probably one of the
best deaths.

489
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,080
But her little marks on her.
Oh yeah, yeah, forearm like

490
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,480
pulsating.
That is a freaky yeah yeah

491
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,320
effect.
Like little mouths like you.

492
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,480
Know.
Yeah, yeah.

493
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,880
Yeah.
Yeah, I I then try to ignore

494
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,120
that when Robert England then
jabs, he misses like half of her

495
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:48,080
arm and you see him like moving
his fingers and he's trying to

496
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,040
be making contact.
Yeah, Yeah.

497
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,560
I didn't miss that.
Yeah.

498
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,880
But but yeah, the the effect
which is clearly a practical

499
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,600
effect.
Yeah, a lot of practical

500
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,080
effects, which was.
Yeah, of her, her.

501
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,440
The little wounds opening and
closing is that is a nasty

502
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,160
effect.
Yep.

503
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,320
All right, so then we've got
Bradley Gregg as Philip

504
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,640
Anderson.
He was the one that made the

505
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,240
puppets.
And another nasty effect.

506
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Yes, yes, Greg's first film was
the eighteen 1985 movie

507
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,240
Explorers, but his big role came
in 86 and hit drama film Stand

508
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,400
by Me as Eyeball Chambers, the
older brother of River Phoenix's

509
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,400
character.
They had both previously

510
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,760
appeared in Explorers in 89.
He appeared again in Indiana

511
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,200
Jones Last Crusade, which we
just covered a couple weeks ago,

512
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,720
another film with River Phoenix.
He also appeared in the

513
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,960
critically acclaimed TV
miniseries Lonesome Dove.

514
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,960
I will say I know we haven't
gotten to like favorite scenes

515
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,520
or iconic scenes, but his death
scene is probably the one that I

516
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,920
remember the most from this
movie.

517
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,880
Like that's the one that when I
first saw it, I was like, Oh my

518
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,040
gosh, I get still, even though I
know it's fake, it still gives

519
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,040
me kind of the I'm not scared,
but it kind of gives me the the

520
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480
willies, I guess you could say.
Or you know, it's kind of like.

521
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,520
Especially the close up of his
feet as he's walking.

522
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,280
Yes.
Yes.

523
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,880
That's.
Yeah, even though the effect is

524
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,280
a little wonky when it's showing
him walking through the hospital

525
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,360
because you can see, I mean, I'm
sure because they're trying very

526
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:24,240
thin wires, but they, you know,
kind of lose focus but but yeah,

527
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,240
but still a still a good effect
and still got the point across.

528
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,000
I mean, I would, I would say,
and I'm, I'm going to jump in a

529
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,920
little bit here.
Almost all the practical effects

530
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,200
still hold up.
Yes, yeah.

531
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,880
That you know and you can tell
like when when practical is

532
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,040
being used.
There is one effect towards the

533
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,480
end of the movie that I'm not
sure how practical it is, and

534
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,440
that's the probably weakest
effect of the movie.

535
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,200
With that, the skeleton fight
scene I.

536
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Was about to say when it turns
into the Army of Darkness, yes.

537
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,320
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

538
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880
Little stop motion.
Jason and the Argonauts, yeah.

539
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,920
There you go, there you go.
All right, moving right along,

540
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,960
trying to get through all of
them.

541
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Ira Haydn as Will Stanton.
He was the one in the

542
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280
wheelchair.
His other film roles included.

543
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Scene in the movie.
I'm just yeah, yeah.

544
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,440
The other film roles include the
1988 film Elvira, Mistress of

545
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,840
the Dark.
He was also on Time Lock in 96,

546
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Trouble with the Truth in 2011
and then I saw they had him as

547
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,600
Ghostbusters Afterlife in 2021
and I had to look it up.

548
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,400
He's the voice of the mini puffs
that it is.

549
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120
That is his credit in that
movie, so.

550
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400
Good for him.
Yeah, still still working.

551
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,440
He had a small recurring role in
the ABC hit TV series Alias as

552
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,440
CIA techie Rick McCarthy.
He's made guest appearances on

553
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,400
TV shows such as Family Ties,
Step by Step and Family Matters.

554
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,120
In real life, Will was a
Dungeons and Dragons dungeon

555
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,800
master during high school, which
made him feel secure in the

556
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,480
role, which he thinks is the
reason why he got the part.

557
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,840
And Speaking of death scenes,
when it came time to film his

558
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,560
death scene, the blades on
England's glove wouldn't

559
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,000
retract, so they had to
improvise.

560
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Instead of delaying the shoot,
they just stuck a 2 by 4

561
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,720
underneath, underneath,
underneath Haydn's shirt and

562
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,880
hope for the best.
Thankfully England had good aim

563
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,680
so Haydn wasn't seriously
injured, but it could have ended

564
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,600
badly.
I still it's still the worst

565
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,400
death in the movie.
I'm just going to say it now.

566
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,560
It's the cheesiest one.
It's the lackluster, like, yeah,

567
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,760
it's this little, you know,
spirit Halloween tape that

568
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,560
appears on him and.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

569
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,280
We already mentioned Larry
Fishburne as Max Daniels.

570
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,480
Of course, we covered him in our
School Days episodes.

571
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,920
You can go back, listen to that.
That one Penelope Sudro played

572
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,040
Jennifer Caulfield.
She was the one that wanted to

573
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,880
be on TV and the one that we
have the most famous line of the

574
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,280
movie that we can't say on this
podcast, but if you know you.

575
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Can say welcome to prime time.
You can at least say that much

576
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,120
which.
You know, I didn't put any vote

577
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,320
super up.
So the welcome to the welcome to

578
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,960
prime time was the scripted
line.

579
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,840
What he what he said after that
was actually ad libbed, ad

580
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,080
libbed by by England.
And a rare thing for England,

581
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
because England is not an ad
libber, right?

582
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Which is crazy because he's
Freddy Krueger, but he's not an

583
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,680
ad libber.
Yeah.

584
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,520
They said they they filmed it so
many times.

585
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,600
I think he was just trying
something different and the

586
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,760
director liked it so much, but
he didn't want to lose the

587
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,640
original line, so they had to
kind of splice the two lines

588
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,240
together.
So, but it works.

589
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,160
Then we've got Priscilla Pointer
as Doctor Elizabeth Sims.

590
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,840
I knew she looked familiar.
She appeared in Cary in 1976, in

591
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,400
which she played the on screen
mother of Amy Irving's

592
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,560
character.
She was in the Onion Field in

593
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,520
1979, Mommy Dearest in 81,
Twilight Zone The Movie in 83,

594
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,240
David Lynch's Blue Velvet and
Coyote Moon in 99.

595
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,120
She's in a lot.
Yeah, and usually plays an

596
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,080
unlikable person.
Yes, yes.

597
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,280
Yeah, which which she was in
this, for sure.

598
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640
From 81 to 83, she had a
recurring role in the soap opera

599
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,720
Dallas as Rebecca Barnes
Wentworth, the mother of Cliff

600
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Barnes.
She appeared in 44 episodes.

601
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,400
She's also the oldest the the
the cast member of all of the

602
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,880
Friday the, I'm sorry, Friday
the 13th we've talked about so

603
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
many times.
The oldest of all of the cast

604
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800
who've been in A Nightmare on
Elm Street, she just passed away

605
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,560
in April of this year at the age
of 100.

606
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,720
Wow, good for her, Yeah.
Kind of amazing.

607
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,200
I will point out my comic book
connection with her.

608
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,800
She's Nora Allen on the TV show
the the The Old Westie.

609
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,640
Shit, yeah.
She was, she was Nora Allen.

610
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,360
Yeah.
Who?

611
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Who didn't die as a kid, But you
can go back and listen to when

612
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,080
he was a kid, right?
So yeah.

613
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,760
So other people that didn't
really do anything else, I'll

614
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,720
just mention briefly Clayton
Landy as Lorenzo the orderly,

615
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,000
Brooke Bundy as Elaine Parker,
which I think that was.

616
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,600
That was the nurse Nan Martin as
Sister Mary Helena, AKA Amanda

617
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Kruger.
Spoiler alert.

618
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,320
No, I'm sorry.
Stacey Alden was nurse Marcy.

619
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,840
Oh.
Brooke Bundy was Elaine.

620
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,120
That was Kristen's mother.
Yeah.

621
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,880
There we go.
And then of course, the cameos

622
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,880
of Dick Cavett and Zsa Zsa Gabor
for the dream sequence in which

623
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,360
Cavett interview is interrupted
by Freddy Kruger.

624
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,840
Sally Kellerman was originally
in the script as the guest, but

625
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Cavett was allowed to pick the
person he'd be interviewing.

626
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,560
He picked Zsa Zsa Gabor because
he thought she was the dumbest

627
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,120
person he'd ever met in his life
and he'd never have on have her

628
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,960
on his show in real life.
So if there was one person you'd

629
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,480
want to see killed by Freddie,
it would be her.

630
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,800
And also, I also read that
Robert England said that when

631
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,159
they came to film the scene, it
was obvious that she did not

632
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,320
know what movie that she was in.
She feels like her producer or

633
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,199
her agent to say, hey, you're in
this movie, show up on the set.

634
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,679
And so when they switched for
Freddy Krueger to come in and

635
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,760
scare her, she was literally
scared because she didn't know

636
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,360
it was a horror movie.
Like, that makes sense.

637
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,280
That tracks.
Yeah, if we go back and talk

638
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,480
about Nan Martin.
Yeah, you can go for it.

639
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,800
Yeah, Do y'all remember that she
was the like the owner, I think

640
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,800
of the department store that
Drew Carey worked for on the

641
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,760
Drew Carey Show?
That's her.

642
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,800
Oh, my gosh.
Like, I knew that she looked

643
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,719
familiar.
Yes, that's right.

644
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,920
OK.
OK.

645
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,679
Yeah.
I didn't dig as deep into her

646
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,040
filmography.
I was because she didn't have.

647
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,360
She has a a pivotal role, but
she's not in the movie a whole

648
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,600
lot.
So yeah, No, but.

649
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,400
She also has been in so much,
it's like I saw her.

650
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,400
I'm like, I know I've seen her
in a lot of stuff.

651
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,640
But no, it's always the Drew
Carey Show.

652
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,080
Like, she's she's that older
woman that Craig Ferguson's

653
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,840
always.
Yes, yeah, Like, yeah, Yep, Yep.

654
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,600
I was.
That's her.

655
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,520
I was watching some of those
episodes a couple of months ago.

656
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,160
It was on one of the.
Yeah, I'm so glad they're

657
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,920
finally out on streaming.
They used.

658
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,080
To not be, Yeah, they used to
not be, but yeah, now they've

659
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,360
been showing them just like one
of the streamers.

660
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,040
I don't know if it's it's not to
be.

661
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,440
I think it's Am I born Amazon?
One of them has like a yeah, has

662
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,480
like a it has a channel, a
streaming channel that's just

663
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,880
like old sitcoms.
And it's not on every day.

664
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,920
It's like they'll run it for
like several hours, then it's

665
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,400
not on for like another couple
of weeks.

666
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,680
But that show was really weird.
Like it was funny and I loved it

667
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,120
as AI loved it.
When I watched it originally

668
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,480
came out, I wasn't a kid then.
I was in college but going back

669
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,120
and watching it now is like they
got away with a lot of weird.

670
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Stuff they did, they did a.
Lot of weird stuff.

671
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,200
Yeah, it was essentially because
that was Drew Carey.

672
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,760
I know we're going off topic.
Here, that's fine.

673
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,280
That was Drew Carey's bit as
stand up is that he was like the

674
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,640
human cartoon.
And so his show is like you're

675
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,680
watching a live action cartoon.
Yeah, in some of the stuff that

676
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,880
they did.
I did really like that show.

677
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,720
Yeah.
All right, let's get back on

678
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:19,480
track with.
All right.

679
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,280
All right, we're here with
iconic scene.

680
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,040
So all right, here we go.
If someone says to you, and I'm

681
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,280
Rail St. and Three Dream
Warriors, what's the first scene

682
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,160
that pops in your head?
We'll start with Nicholas.

683
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,840
It, I mean, there it's pretty
much the death scenes, but the

684
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,480
one the TV when, when, yeah,
when Freddie jumps out and then,

685
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,320
like, grabs her, like, Rams her
into the TV and like.

686
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,520
But so, so much of this movie is
predicated on adults being

687
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,000
stupid.
Yeah, yeah.

688
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,200
So you have ATV that's elevated.
She's a good two feet off the

689
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,240
ground.
Good 2 feet and they're like,

690
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:02,880
Yep, she killed herself.
Yeah.

691
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Yeah, yeah.
How, how, how in the world is

692
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,560
this little girl?
Running jump.

693
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,320
Yeah, yeah.
Smash her head through a TV a

694
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,320
couple feet in the air and and
those TV's weren't exactly the

695
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,640
easiest to smash through like
those were.

696
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,480
The Oh yeah, the the old
screens.

697
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,120
Yeah, that TV had to have also
like weighed like, you know, a

698
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,240
good 100 lbs.
Right, right, right.

699
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Yeah, well, you know, but yeah,
almost any of the death scenes

700
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,120
were are the iconic one.
I mean though, yeah.

701
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,640
Because I mean, this is where,
because we talked about it a

702
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,600
little bit with the last one.
The first one, Freddie was, you

703
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,120
know, like just a, you know, the
evil omnipresent force of

704
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,920
destruction.
The second one, they started

705
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,120
allowing him to get a little bit
more humorous.

706
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,760
This one they really picked up
with, like, personalizing the

707
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,840
catch phrase, like welcome to
prime time.

708
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,560
And then I can't remember some,
you know, I can't.

709
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,120
Remember some of the other Are
you tongue tied?

710
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,280
Oh yeah, tongue tied.
And we did the what?

711
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,240
A rush when he injected a girl,
Yeah.

712
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,400
Yeah, personalizing the kills,
personalizing the catchphrases.

713
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Like it really, this is I think,
where you kind of realize the

714
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,560
the idea that Freddie is the
star, not the people in the

715
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,120
movie.
Right, Right.

716
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,320
You, I mean, you still have to
find a way to kill him because

717
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,200
he's the bad guy.
But you know, Freddie is the is

718
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,920
the reason you're putting butts
in seats.

719
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,960
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, That, that, that.

720
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,600
I mean, we've already talked
about like the puppet, like

721
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,960
turning him into a puppet and,
you know, like just the the

722
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,080
practical effects make
everything, you know, look good.

723
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,360
I mean, the you know, then the
needle one doesn't, you know, I

724
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960
don't know, I did enjoy that
one, but maybe not as much.

725
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,280
But yeah, but the, the death
scenes are, are where where this

726
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,080
movie really shines and and kind
of turns the the franchise into

727
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,920
what it became.
And what do you got, Laramie?

728
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,240
Iconic scene.
I mean, it's the same thing,

729
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:13,240
yeah.
It's the death scenes.

730
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,960
Because even even as much as I
don't like Will's death, it's

731
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,160
still one that pops into my
head.

732
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Yeah, when I think about this
movie, you know, the the long

733
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:29,280
corridor, the giant wheelchair,
Yeah, even even the stupid green

734
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,200
lightning bolts that come out of
his hand.

735
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Right, right.
It is a dream or so.

736
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,600
Yeah, but yeah, And then and
then of course, you know, he

737
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,960
does the stupid.
You know I'm going to blast

738
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,560
Freddie with these laser beams
and then for some reason run

739
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,960
towards him.
Right, right.

740
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,800
You know, but yeah, no, it's
absolutely the deaths from like,

741
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,280
like Nicholas was saying, you
know, the, the TV death,

742
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,320
probably the the most iconic,
but yeah, most of them, I mean,

743
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,120
even even the nurse launching
their tongues out and yeah, and

744
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:09,160
tying him up, tying Joey up,
Yeah, it's all or Joey screaming

745
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,720
and breaking the glass and
they're all.

746
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,120
Falling out.
Oh yeah, yeah, that was that was

747
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,360
not it.
Yeah, and as much as as corny as

748
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,160
some of this is, and honestly,
when you break down their dream

749
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,840
powers and how stupid a lot of
their dream powers are, it's

750
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,000
still like it's still a
memorable movie all across the

751
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000
board.
Yeah.

752
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,640
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I'm sorry, the the

753
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,840
the puppet, like the veins
puppet.

754
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,840
That's that's the one that I
remembered once again, because I

755
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,760
just that one struck me so much.
Watched the first time.

756
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,880
But of course the TV is, is
probably the most iconic.

757
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,760
I mean, that's the one that most
people remember.

758
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,640
But yeah, what about favorite
scenes besides the ones you've

759
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,680
already mentioned?
I think we might have mentioned

760
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,720
them all.
Yeah, we've we've pretty much

761
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,640
mention them all.
I mean, it's, I mean the

762
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,360
favorite ones and the iconic
ones kind of overlap on this

763
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,560
one.
Yeah.

764
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,880
What did you think about the
snake Freddie as the snake

765
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,800
scene?
The scene that almost didn't get

766
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,800
the movie, like, approved,
right?

767
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Right.
Because yeah, I don't know if

768
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,560
you have that written.
Now I have it.

769
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,920
I have it on there, Yeah, of.
Course he's it's a very dark

770
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,480
looking snake.
It was supposed to look more

771
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,160
like Freddie, right?
But because Freddie's kind of

772
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,560
pinkish colored, it looked like
something else.

773
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,040
It looked, looked, looked like
something else, yes.

774
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,320
So yeah, they had to, yeah.
And they apparently used that

775
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,680
shot in some like international
posters and the posters ended up

776
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,880
like getting banned.
Yep.

777
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,080
Yep, I swear that to.
Because not only did he look

778
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:53,680
like a certain thing, but he and
mid process of of devouring

779
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Kristen looked a little
inappropriate.

780
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,240
I used to have it.
I don't have it anymore.

781
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,280
I got rid of it.
But I used to have like a

782
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,840
little, I don't know what you
would call it a figure type

783
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,240
thing, but it was a a set piece
that was actually of that scene.

784
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,680
Oh really?
And it always bothered me

785
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,080
because the Freddie snake in
this little, a little toy little

786
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,320
statue figurine, whatever you
want to call it, was green.

787
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,760
And that always bothered.
Me.

788
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Yeah.
Why is it green?

789
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,240
Now you know.
Like why is he green but but

790
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:30,400
make him make him dark grey or
black like why is he green?

791
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Yeah.
OK.

792
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,400
Moving on, any other scenes
we've said all we can say about

793
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,080
that one, but.
Yeah, I mean, not necessarily

794
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,200
favorite scenes, but the the
scene in the beginning, one of

795
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,240
the the first one, like the
first dream sequence and she

796
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:46,440
meets the little girl.
We've heard the Freddie, You

797
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,640
know nursery rhyme again.
Right, right.

798
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,280
And she's like, she picks up the
little girl.

799
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,160
And it could not be more obvious
from the second she picks up the

800
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,640
little girl until the time when
it's revealed that it's a doll.

801
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,240
Like it is like you like it's
just so painfully obvious.

802
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,040
Yeah, I made notice of that too.
When I was watching it.

803
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,080
I was like, oh, that's still a
doll.

804
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,480
And then I got to the phone was
like, she realizes the doll.

805
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,760
But yeah, but you know, they
actually, they spent $10,000 on

806
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,160
a like, not a doll, but like
looking like a real decaying

807
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,160
child.
And when the Purdue, when the

808
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:30,120
director and the crew saw it, it
was so grotesque that they

809
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,000
couldn't use it.
And the guy who spent like 6

810
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,960
months making it was so mad.
And they spent $10,000 on it

811
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,920
anyway.
So they, they, they just grabbed

812
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,800
like a what?
A skeleton with a with a wig.

813
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,440
And that's what made the movie.
So yeah, it's pretty crazy.

814
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,480
But I going back to that.
So thing about like the dream

815
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,280
sequences too.
One of the scenes that I really

816
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:58,040
like is later in the movie where
Kristen wakes up thinking it's

817
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,840
back to that first night when
she when she cut herself or when

818
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,120
Freddie calls her to cut
herself, when she's putting the

819
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,280
house together and her mom comes
in and it's, you know, it kind

820
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,840
of works.
So you're thinking, oh, maybe

821
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,080
she really maybe she's waking up
and it's like it's all over.

822
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,120
And then of course, you know, I
know.

823
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,880
But I did like that.
I liked how they put that there

824
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,480
where it's like, OK, she's she
feels like she's safe.

825
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,600
And then for it to be Freddie,
the guy from downstairs where I

826
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,680
told you to bring the bourbon or
whatever it was, you know, I

827
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680
thought that was, I thought that
was a cool scene as well.

828
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,160
Yeah, you got you got to love
the the Freddie scenes where you

829
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,880
think all is safe.
I mean, that was the yeah, you

830
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,080
got, you had the end of the
first movie where they did that,

831
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:40,040
you know, oh, look, everybody's
back.

832
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,760
And.
And then the mom gets ripped

833
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,600
through the small window, so
and.

834
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,000
You know, in any and all these
movies, like, you have to like

835
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,520
they can just change it on the
fly for like when he can affect

836
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,520
the real world and when he can't
affect the real world because

837
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,360
like, you know, he kills her.
He kills Kristen's mom, you

838
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,440
know, cuts her head off and he's
all like, yeah, But then like,

839
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,920
she comes back in the 4th movie
and you're like, the entire

840
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,080
sequence was a dream.
So she's not really dead.

841
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,480
Like, yeah.
But but does but but that breaks

842
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,440
the rule though, doesn't it?
Because if he kills you in the

843
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,440
dream, he kills you in real
life.

844
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,960
Yeah, but she.
Wasn't in the dream, he was just

845
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,640
manifesting her.
Yeah, so he didn't.

846
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,240
The rule didn't get broken
there, but it was just a matter

847
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,840
of like.
There are some rules that get

848
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,040
broken of.
Course, yeah, I mean.

849
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:34,800
Even within this movie.
So if Kristen's dream power is

850
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,200
that she can bring people into
her dream, her dream, how does

851
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,280
Nancy getting the the the other
dream wars together and

852
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,800
hypnotizing them then bring them
into Kristen's dream?

853
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,440
Yeah.
When they all of a sudden appear

854
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,880
in the, you know, the rubber
room with her, like she didn't

855
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,320
bring them there, they brought
themselves there, which

856
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,440
completely then what's the point
of Kristen's power?

857
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,160
So yeah, there there's some,
there's some fault in.

858
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,400
And then and then the fact that
Kincaid is only just slightly

859
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,360
stronger than probably his in
real life.

860
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,160
Yeah.
I that was yeah, that one, that

861
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,160
one bothered me not couldn't, it
didn't bother me the most, but

862
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,280
it was one of the ones that was
just like that.

863
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Really.
That's what you got and he like

864
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:27,360
and he's not really any
stronger, you know, like I said,

865
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,440
it's just that.
You're going to get me going off

866
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,320
of this, but even even Kristen's
apparently secondary power is

867
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,880
that she's a gymnast.
Yeah, yeah.

868
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:42,800
And her dreams or or Taran, like
I get Taran is, you know, I'm

869
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,920
beautiful and I'm like, you
don't look no offense.

870
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,720
I mean, Jennifer Rubin's not an
unattractive.

871
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,960
No, no person.
Yeah, she was a model before

872
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,280
she.
Was all of a sudden she now has

873
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,720
a Mohawk.
Yeah, yeah.

874
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,920
So I don't know why that makes
you now beautiful and you and

875
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,440
you're bad.
Yeah, I thought you.

876
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Just know how to use.
Yeah, I thought she wanted to be

877
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,720
a goth.
I thought that was what that

878
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:03,240
was.
That was.

879
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,280
Yeah, and you're, you're good at
handling a butterfly knife like

880
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,640
I OK.
Well, I mean it really goes to

881
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,080
show the the the light, the the
limits to their the kids own

882
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,720
imaginations.
Like if you have dream powers

883
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:20,720
and like you and your dream, you
can walk and you have these

884
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:25,840
wizard powers like and and the
dream powers are like unlimited

885
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,960
because Freddie's dream powers
are relatively unlimited as

886
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,560
well.
Like hit the limitations of his

887
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,480
own imagination, like holds him
back and gets him killed and you

888
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,320
know it.
Just.

889
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,400
Yeah, although again, again,
Will's Will's wizard powers not

890
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,520
do nothing.
No at the I.

891
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,240
Mean at least the at least like
like Kristen is able to martial

892
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:54,800
art gymnastic yeah you know,
jump out of his reach yeah yeah

893
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,800
or or or drop kick him and do
some damage or whatnot.

894
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,240
And why doesn't Nancy have a
dream power?

895
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,760
Why did they not give Nancy?
A dream power.

896
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,320
If she's the one who knows and
teaches them about dream power,

897
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,680
where is Nancy's dream power?
Again, I think it it comes in

898
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,240
and I mean I want to say it's
the limitation of the kids

899
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,520
because I want, I'm trying to
give the screenwriter too much

900
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,600
credit.
But my guess is it's more the

901
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,800
limited, the limitations of the
screenwriters own imagination.

902
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,680
They are are the limitations of
the budget that they had.

903
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,120
Yeah, I think the budget was
probably the most was the

904
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,920
biggest part.
I do.

905
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,760
I do like with Nancy one one
thing because, you know, she

906
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,400
clearly looked to be about the
same age, if not younger than

907
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Patricia Arquette.
But they're like, you know,

908
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,800
she's older.
She went to college, she has a

909
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,360
degree.
So they put a little little Gray

910
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,560
streak, a little Gray streak.
On the Gray streak was yeah was.

911
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,360
Came from the first.
Movie though.

912
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,080
But it's on the other side in
the first movie.

913
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,880
But I digress.
They they wanted to, they wanted

914
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,440
to make her you.
Know, I don't think I ever

915
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,080
realized that, yeah.
Yeah, it's on the wrong side in

916
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,480
this movie.
Yeah, they they're just like,

917
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,080
but we got to make her look a
little older.

918
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640
Actually, I think Patricia was
still younger than her, but she

919
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,520
was younger than by 4.
Years.

920
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,880
I was literally looking up as he
was talking about that.

921
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,560
Yeah, she was.
She was younger than Jennifer,

922
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,280
so the one she was younger than.
I'm I'm still looking through,

923
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:34,120
so let's see.
Jennifer was born in, or I guess

924
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,520
I should say, Penelope Sudra was
born in 66.

925
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,960
So she that makes her actually a
little younger than Langy Camp,

926
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,520
because Langy Camp, yeah, Lang
Camp was born in 64.

927
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,080
OK, maybe she was.
Only.

928
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,040
Maybe she was older, but she was
definitely like closer to their

929
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,680
age than is portrayed.
Yeah, perceived in the the

930
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,120
movie.
Because then this one's supposed

931
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,720
to take place like six years
after the first one, I think is

932
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:03,880
what I read.
So the opposite issue of the

933
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Stranger Things seasons.
Oh gosh, don't get me started.

934
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,920
All right, so all right, so
let's talk about some scenes in

935
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,840
trivia.
One of the deleted scenes was

936
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,000
talking about Heather
Langenkamp.

937
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,120
Her and Co star Craig Wasson
refer to the deleted scene in

938
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,640
which they actually kissed, with
Wasson stating that because

939
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,040
there were rumors that there was
a sex scene.

940
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,240
He said no, we did not have sex,
but there was this real one real

941
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:30,880
hot kiss that was just about
melted the camera lens.

942
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,560
Too bad they cut it.
I didn't like the little

943
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,360
romantic like they didn't they
they cut a lot of it out, but

944
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,280
you could tell that was still
kind of there There's.

945
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,640
Still hints of it.
Yeah.

946
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,080
And I was like, yeah, I'm just
not.

947
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,760
I wasn't a fan of that at all.
It's the only film out of the

948
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,600
1st 6 to not begin with a
nightmare scene.

949
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,720
The only one, yeah.
I don't have a whole lot of

950
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:56,000
trivia for this one, so let's be
pretty quick.

951
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,960
This was fun.
In France the movie was retitled

952
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,400
Freddy Three Clause of the
Nightmare, not Santa Claus, but

953
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,520
CLAWS.
And in Japan, the movie was

954
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,160
retitled Nightmare on Street 3,
Tragedy House.

955
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,760
OK all.
Right.

956
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,040
So, yeah.
All right, so, so that I was

957
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,360
going to mention now I can't
remember.

958
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,200
OK, not important.
So there was a different ending

959
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,560
originally, of course, as most
of these movies do.

960
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,960
It was intended, as we said, in
Wes Craven wanted to be the last

961
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,320
Nightmare on Elm Street.
And it was actually scripted

962
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,960
that way.
Even after the rewrites.

963
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,880
The final shot of Doctor Gordon
sleeping and the lights inside

964
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,480
the miniature house suddenly
going on seems to suggest that

965
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,840
Freddie may not be entirely
dead.

966
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,680
The shooting script makes it
clear this was not originally

967
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,520
the intention.
In an additional scene, Doctor

968
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,320
Gordon visits Kristen a few days
after Freddie's defeat.

969
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Kristen reveals that she is
moving to New York, the city

970
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,240
that never sleeps.
When Doctor Gordon asked her if

971
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:07,200
she's going to see her referring
to Nancy in her dreams, Kristen

972
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,720
answers that she dreams of her
every night, suggesting that

973
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:13,080
Nancy guards her dreams.
The scene then cuts to the

974
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,120
ending, which plays out in the
finished film as it was

975
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,520
scripted, implying that Nancy,
not Freddie, is the one that

976
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,560
turns on the light as she is
guarding Gordon's dreams as

977
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,800
well.
It is unknown at the preceding

978
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,760
scene was shot but leaving but
by leaving the scene out and

979
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,440
adding an an ominous musical cue
and makes it appear as if

980
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,120
Freddie is still alive, I.
Will there you go that could

981
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,000
also got to love that this this
movie ends with with one of

982
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,040
those awesome, you know, movie
themed rock.

983
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,920
Anthems.
They're all Dawkin.

984
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:43,800
Yep.
Yeah.

985
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,160
Next fact.
You're you're like you're

986
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,520
reading my notes.
Was next on my list.

987
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,520
Go ahead.
Awesome.

988
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Back when they would, they would
hire a band to write a a theme

989
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,440
song or write a song
specifically for a movie.

990
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,120
Yep, Yep.
So the theme song titled Dream

991
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,640
Warriors was written and
performed by Is it Dawkin or

992
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Doka?
Dawkin.

993
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,800
I've always thought it was
Dawkin, but I couldn't.

994
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Do it makes sense?
Yeah, it was later included on

995
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,880
their album Back for the attack
of the single was a success and

996
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,680
a decision was made to include
heavy metal songs in the

997
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,720
soundtrack of the sequels.
The band's manager, Cliff

998
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,440
Bernstein was acquainted with
Craven and was able to get a

999
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,360
copy of the film script as
reference for the lyrics.

1000
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Robert England as Freddie then
help providing unique footage

1001
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,080
with the band for the music.
Video clips of Patricia Arquette

1002
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,800
as Kristen were also used, with
some notable changes such as her

1003
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,440
model house being built with
Dawkin fan magazines instead of

1004
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,640
the paper mache.
Yeah, I do remember seeing the

1005
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,760
video on.
And then, of course, if you

1006
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,880
don't remember, DJ Jazzy Jeff
and The Fresh Prince had a song

1007
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,920
called A Nightmare on Mind.
Street which was on my.

1008
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Street Yeah was actually
recorded for the film was

1009
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,320
rejected by the producers Will
Smith and Jazzy Jeff released it

1010
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,320
anyway on their album He's the
DJ, I'm the Rapper as a single

1011
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,360
and it reached #12 on the
Billboard Hot 100.

1012
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,520
There became a messy legal
battle with New Line Cinema,

1013
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,600
where the song's release the
single being released the same

1014
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,200
time the movie forced the duo to
destroy the tapes of a music

1015
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,400
video for the single and
disclaimers disassociating the

1016
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,120
song from the Elm St. franchise
were has hastily added on the

1017
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,040
vinyl pressings of the single,
though was later revealed that a

1018
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,400
copy of the song's music video
had survived.

1019
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,360
I remember the video, so I'd say
I wasn't remembering the video

1020
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,320
as you were talking.
Yeah, and now?

1021
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,440
I've seen the video.
Yeah, well you know what I might

1022
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,960
be getting confused was because
the Fat Boys had a song about

1023
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,400
Freddy too that he was in.
I'm pretty sure there's a video

1024
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,280
for Nightmare on my street.
There's got to be, yeah.

1025
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,840
It wasn't the Fat Boys, the the
dream, the number 4.

1026
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,720
It might have been.
I can't remember it.

1027
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,920
I'm sure we'll get to #4 later.
Yes, yeah.

1028
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Yeah, that one, that one was
still in the 80s.

1029
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Yeah.
I think that's the last one of

1030
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,520
the 80s.
I think so, but yeah.

1031
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,200
Yeah.
Are you ready for Freddie?

1032
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,120
Are you ready for Freddie?
That.

1033
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,880
Was the Fat Boy.
Yeah, that was fab boy because I

1034
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,440
remember that one.
I had the, I think I bought the

1035
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,840
single, like the old 45 single,
like, you know, single record

1036
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,320
for that one.
But I have, I still have my DJ

1037
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,360
Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince
vinyl album right here in my

1038
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,960
office.
So I break that out tomorrow.

1039
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:33,160
Listen to that again Office in
Critical Reception at Nightmare

1040
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,880
on Elm Street.
Three opened theatrically in the

1041
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,280
United States on February 27th,
1987 and dethroned Platoon at

1042
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,440
the number one spot on the
weekend box office.

1043
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,680
It made over 44 million at the
domestic box office, making both

1044
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,880
the highest grossing film for
the studio that year and the

1045
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,400
24th highest grossing film of
87.

1046
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,080
It's the third highest grossing
film of the franchise after

1047
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,960
Freddy VS Jason and A Nightmare
on Elm Street for The Dream

1048
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,680
Master.
So Dreammaster actually did

1049
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,280
better, but once I got back on
track, I'm sure that's why it it

1050
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,960
did better.
So all right, now it's time to

1051
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,240
take a look at how well this 80s
flick holds up Today.

1052
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,080
The all new rewatch ability
Nostalgia meters our way of

1053
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,480
measuring how enjoyable a movie
is for repeat viewings along

1054
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,000
with the waves and nostalgia
brings.

1055
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,800
Here's how it works.
It's a one to 10 scale.

1056
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,360
Any number between 1:00 and
10:00 will do, but here are a

1057
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,880
few parameters to help you
decide.

1058
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,760
At the bottom of the meter is a
number one says.

1059
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,320
I saw it once and that was
enough.

1060
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,480
Right in the middle is a 5.
It's a good rewatch every couple

1061
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,360
of years, and the highly coveted
#10 at the top of the meter is

1062
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,520
highly rewatchable and full of
nostalgia.

1063
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,160
So we'll start with Nicholas.
Where does A Nightmare on Elm

1064
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,640
Street 3 Dream Warriors rank for
you on the rewatchable nostalgia

1065
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,680
meter?
I'll give it a 6.5. 6.5 OK.

1066
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,840
It's it's, it's a good one.
I mean, it is one of the better

1067
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,840
ones of the, the, of the, of the
franchise.

1068
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,080
It's it's infinitely more
watchable than the second one.

1069
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,840
Yeah, yeah.
It's, it's where the it's where

1070
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,080
the series gets back on track
and kind of sets it down its

1071
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,320
path until it completely derails
itself.

1072
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,160
As they all do.
But you know, yeah, no, I mean

1073
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,160
it, it's it's a fun movie.
It's a fun watch.

1074
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,440
It's a quick watch.
I mean, it's barely over an hour

1075
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,320
and a half.
You know, it's, it's, it's got

1076
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,040
some flaws and problems like any
other 80s movie.

1077
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,880
But you know, I mean, for for an
80s horror movie that's on the

1078
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:41,040
cheesy side of things, it's fun.
Yeah, I agree with that.

1079
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,200
What say you, Laramie?
I got to give it a little higher

1080
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,040
just because of the nostalgia
factor.

1081
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,560
So I'm probably I'm actually
probably going to go an 8 on

1082
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,000
this one.
As I, as I said, you know, it's

1083
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,040
probably, you know, my second
favorite of the entire series,

1084
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,520
maybe third.
How can you make me argue the

1085
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,880
original?
But yeah, I again, it, it may

1086
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:13,080
only have, you know, the six
deaths, but they are, as we've

1087
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,880
talked about throughout this
whole episode, they are

1088
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,600
memorable deaths.
And so yeah, I think just for

1089
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:23,280
the sake of nostalgia, I have to
to take that one up to to

1090
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,320
probably an 8.
Yeah, I'm right there.

1091
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,800
Between the two of you.
I was pretty settled on A7, but

1092
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,240
once again, I think it's because
the nostalgia fact, like I said,

1093
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,400
I think this is the first one
that I saw of the franchise.

1094
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,600
It's definitely the one that
I've seen more than the others,

1095
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,440
but it's not one that I, you
know, I just don't get around to

1096
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,600
watching it that often.
So rewatch ability is not as

1097
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,360
high, but nostalgic knocks it
up.

1098
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,720
So yeah, 7:00, maybe even 7.5.
I'm even go go that high.

1099
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,040
I can't give it an 8 though.
But but yeah, but like you said,

1100
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,280
it's it's enjoyable.
It's short watch.

1101
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,160
I liked Nancy coming back.
I felt like it got back to the

1102
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,640
what made the first one so good.
The practical, practical

1103
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,360
effects, I think once again help
make it memorable as well.

1104
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:15,600
So yeah, 7.5, I'll go with that.
So let us know where you think A

1105
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,960
Nightmare on Street 3 Dream
Warriors should rank on the

1106
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,600
rewatchability nostalgia meter
for you.

1107
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,520
You can send us an e-mail, reach
out to us on social media, or

1108
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,120
leave us a comment right here on
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1109
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,440
watching the podcast from.
All right, Nicholas Laramie,

1110
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,160
thanks so much for joining.
I hope you guys had a good time

1111
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,560
talking about Dream Warriors.
I know I did.

1112
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,920
So what's going on with Pop
Culture Roulette?

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Nicholas?
Anything exciting happening?

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00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,360
You guys had some fun episodes
here recently.

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00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,320
Yeah, we, we did, we did a
wrestling bracket.

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We did.
We've got we, you know, we just,

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we're, we're in a trap.
We're in a period right now

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where we're just doing whatever
is entertaining.

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I mean, the wrestling bracket
was kind of inspired by some

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unfortunate real life events,
but it provided us with a real

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01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,280
fun episode.
So we just, we just like having

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01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,880
fun.
We like making each other laugh.

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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,400
And, and you can find us
anywhere or you find your

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01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,640
podcast or.
Hit us up on Facebook, Instagram

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,400
if you have a topic you want to
hear about.

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01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,760
So yeah, I mean, you know, pop
culture roulette is where you'd

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,520
go to find us anywhere,
basically.

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01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Yeah, I listened to the misheard
lyrics episode, which was a lot

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,360
of fun.
I enjoyed that one a lot.

1130
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,840
That was a fun.
One Yeah, yeah, we, yeah, we

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01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:32,640
did.
We were.

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01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,240
We got into music a lot recently
for some.

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01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,000
Reason.
All right, Larry, what's going

1134
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,520
on over at Moving Panels
Podcast?

1135
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,560
You know, wrapping up our our
year and of course, we always

1136
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,680
end things with a a bad movie.
And Nicholas, Nicholas this year

1137
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,760
drew the short end.
As we talk, we we talk about a

1138
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,280
vampirilla.
Oh yeah, yeah, which I will.

1139
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,720
I said that I say this in in our
episode.

1140
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,280
He chose.
I'm just going to.

1141
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,600
I did.
I did choose and I chose wrong

1142
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,480
or well, one of the two.
You chose one of the other

1143
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,600
poorly.
But you know, we're, we're

1144
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,960
starting up a, a new year and
might see a little bit of

1145
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,680
changes in terms of formatting
and all that, you know, just

1146
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,040
still playing around with some
stuff.

1147
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:29,840
But yeah, no, excited, never
know what what what to expect.

1148
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,320
Yeah, definitely 2 great
podcasts to check out if you

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,960
haven't already.
So definitely find them on your

1150
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,600
podcast catcher and and reach
out to these guys and let them

1151
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,280
know that you enjoy the show.
Leave them a good five star

1152
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,040
review like you give us.
Hopefully you're giving us a

1153
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,520
good five star review.
But if you like, say, if you

1154
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,080
enjoyed the episode, please
leave us that five star review.

1155
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,280
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1156
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,680
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1157
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,240
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1158
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,560
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01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,640
I'm Tim Williams for the 80s
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01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,760
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01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,600
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